Round 7 Discussion

[Scrads]

Suckling is going at a goal a game, I'd rather not lose that.

I'd rather lose the facepalm-worthy turnovers from our supposed elite kicker. How opposition players can get simple intercept marks off his kicking (that isn't even a bomb forward) eludes me. Also don't like the zero level of defensive effort/pressure he provides (I understand this isn't his strength nor role and that Brad Hill won't be dropped because he can't ruck but I think every player needs to be able to chase and apply pressure when it is their turn).

[Mr.Craig]

Lol yeah, Suckling is good for two or three absolute clanger kicks a game but I see the value of a guy who can be taking kick in's one moment and be having a shot on goal the next. I also see he's ranked sixth in the league for bounces so he's breaking the lines well. Unfortunately we can extract Poppy's defensive DNA and give it to everyone. :P

[Scrads]

Lol yeah, Suckling is good for two or three absolute clanger kicks a game but I see the value of a guy who can be taking kick in's one moment and be having a shot on goal the next. I also see he's ranked sixth in the league for bounces so he's breaking the lines well. Unfortunately we can extract Poppy's defensive DNA and give it to everyone. :P

I'm quite surprised at that running bounce count, without finding stats or looking over any of the games I'm just wondering how many of those bounces are streaming forward on a fast break and how many are touching the ball on the ground after skipping a few steps trying to make a decision about what to do, relatively unopposed. I think his 'metres gained' stat would be a bit warped due to his monster kick.

And I don't expect him to be Rioli or Poppy, but the guy has laid 6 tackles in 6 games this year (went to the stats column for that one). Including a total of 0 in the last 2 games!

[Mr.Craig]

Not just Suckers either, we have gone from being eighth for most tackles in 2013 to dead last by a looooong way. It's all good and well now but when it comes to pressure games ie - finals we sure as hell better be ready to step up in that department.

[Scrads]

Not just Suckers either, we have gone from being eighth for most tackles in 2013 to dead last by a looooong way. It's all good and well now but when it comes to pressure games ie - finals we sure as hell better be ready to step up in that department.

Good find re: our tackle stats. I am wondering if our time in possession % has anything to do with our low tackle count? Another stat to back me up which I had to search for. Suckling is 2nd in the team for inside 50s (good).

1st is Brad Hill with 25, for 7 goal assists. Suckling has 23, for 0 goal assists. He has sent the ball into our forward line 23 times for no goal assists!

[Toga]

I did notice that Suckers had a few turnovers yesterday... Thought it was a bit unlike him with his elite kick...

[Vinny]

Not just Suckers either, we have gone from being eighth for most tackles in 2013 to dead last by a looooong way. It's all good and well now but when it comes to pressure games ie - finals we sure as hell better be ready to step up in that department.

Where do you get those types of stats MC? Been looking for recently and not sure where to start.

[Ziplock]

Not just Suckers either, we have gone from being eighth for most tackles in 2013 to dead last by a looooong way. It's all good and well now but when it comes to pressure games ie - finals we sure as hell better be ready to step up in that department.

Where do you get those types of stats MC? Been looking for recently and not sure where to start.

http://www.afl.com.au/stats

for tackles the difference between hawthorn and 17th is is 8 tackles per game. To put that into perspective, the difference between 17th and 6th is like just under 9 tackles per game.

[Mr.Craig]

Sicily's 3 goals from the Box Hill game...

http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/2014-04-29/lowden-sicily-impress-in-box-hill-win.workstation

[Toga]

Gun! Looks like he's added some size to that frame of his as well. Any chance of getting a run in the seniors at some point Craigy?

[Mr.Craig]

Gun! Looks like he's added some size to that frame of his as well. Any chance of getting a run in the seniors at some point Craigy?

Seems unlikely, it's not as if we're struggling for goalkickers at the moment. He's averaging under 10 possessions and will need to lift that to mid/high teens before we seriously consider him. A 2015 debut seems more realistic.

[elephants]

To be honest, I thought Suckers was one of your worst against the Tigers. Some appalling disposal. In my opinion he should be dropped to set a marker but is there any chance he actually could be?

[Toga]

Gun! Looks like he's added some size to that frame of his as well. Any chance of getting a run in the seniors at some point Craigy?

Seems unlikely, it's not as if we're struggling for goalkickers at the moment. He's averaging under 10 possessions and will need to lift that to mid/high teens before we seriously consider him. A 2015 debut seems more realistic.

Yeah that's what I was thinking. Drafted him in AXVs not expecting anything this year but looks like he's got the skillset to become a very good footballer.

[Scrads]

Excited for Hartung! :)

Will probably sit out most of the game in the green but exciting none-the-less! :)

[Mr.Craig]

Thought Hartung was a bit disappointing in the NAB so hopefully he's ready to step up.

Certainly suggests Hallahan won't be wearing the green vest which is good for those picking him.