Trades as of Tuesday!!

[Bully]

Plenty jumping on Lloyd, is it a couple of weeks too early? What if he gets injured before going up in price?

Any player at any time can get injured, by bringing him in now one can free up trades for other potential bubble boys next week such as Cripps, Gray, Robertson & Cutler. What happens if more than one player turns in a blinder?

While I get the point I think the problem is timing - Cripps, Robertson and Gray are all Mids, Cutler a defender, I don't think anyone would have a cow worth trading out for them yet. Maybe Tyson if he gets another 50 this week, but then that's only 1 trade. I certainly won't have a defender to cull for Cutler, or another mid to cull for 2 mid trades. Your point is only really valid if you're expecting to have 2 players ready to trade out next week already, don't think many would be.

Which I am, I mentioned it on another thread but I don't subscribe to the theory that one has to make sure their cows reach maximum value before culling, it all depends on what else is on the table. As a hypothetical, lets' say Gray turns in another excellent performance and holds his place, one could therefore look at bringing him in for Ellis, making 230k in the process. The money could then used to bring in a fallen premo such as Griffen, or alternatively. stashed away with another cow being replaced eg. Robertson for Dunstan (220k profit). So in one week we have made 450k and still have some decent scoring potential still on the board, we haven't altered our bye structure and we will still get 3 price rises from our new rookies before they have their byes.

[kilbluff1985]

Dunny concerned me a bit most noticed he looked tired the interstate trip prob did not help being a rookie will be watching him this week

[Bully]

Dunny concerned me a bit most noticed he looked tired the interstate trip prob did not help being a rookie will be watching him this week

Exactly, first year players often go through mini form slumps, one more ordinary score and his B/E becomes negligible. Delaying bringing in Lloyd makes no sense when there are potentially 3-4 good downgrade options available next week. Lock in the profits now and give yourself every chance of grabbing the next golden goose. 

[Ricochet]

Dunny concerned me a bit most noticed he looked tired the interstate trip prob did not help being a rookie will be watching him this week

Exactly, first year players often go through mini form slumps, one more ordinary score and his B/E becomes negligible. Delaying bringing in Lloyd makes no sense when there are potentially 3-4 good downgrade options available next week. Lock in the profits now and give yourself every chance of grabbing the next golden goose.

So Bully being a Richmond man, your not worried about Lloyd's JS with King to come back in?

[Vinny]

I thought that to Ric but most of the Richmond guys reckon that Lloyd will maybe push King out. Also that King's carreer might be on the line. He wasn't doing anything that productive anyway. Check out Richmond board man

[Ramus]

Dunny concerned me a bit most noticed he looked tired the interstate trip prob did not help being a rookie will be watching him this week

Exactly, first year players often go through mini form slumps, one more ordinary score and his B/E becomes negligible. Delaying bringing in Lloyd makes no sense when there are potentially 3-4 good downgrade options available next week. Lock in the profits now and give yourself every chance of grabbing the next golden goose.

But we only have so many trades to use on bringing in possible cash cows, I think that if we at least wait until they are ready for their first price rise, and also make sure they are then picked to play their third game, before we use that precious trade? You are then at least guaranteed one price rise before any possible injury or form drop that sees them out of the team.

[GCSkiwi]

Which I am, I mentioned it on another thread but I don't subscribe to the theory that one has to make sure their cows reach maximum value before culling, it all depends on what else is on the table. As a hypothetical, lets' say Gray turns in another excellent performance and holds his place, one could therefore look at bringing him in for Ellis, making 230k in the process. The money could then used to bring in a fallen premo such as Griffen, or alternatively. stashed away with another cow being replaced eg. Robertson for Dunstan (220k profit). So in one week we have made 450k and still have some decent scoring potential still on the board, we haven't altered our bye structure and we will still get 3 price rises from our new rookies before they have their byes.

Definitely a balance needed, I guess the way I'm looking at it is that Gray and Lloyd are the only ones really pushing for next week SC selection in my mind. Worst case scenario, I don't trade this week, Cutler, Lloyd, Cripps, Robertson  and Gray all go 100+ this weekend. Obviously, Gray and Lloyd would be the ones to bring in. Cutler and Robertson really not a worry as 19/49 will limit their first price increase. Lose a small amount of profit but I'm happy to lose that for a little security/more information in making my picks. Cripps would be a shame as 75 + 100+ would make him a good pick but his price of 160k also means he frees up slightly less cash than others. So maybe I miss him. Really the only reason for me to trade one in this week is thinking that 3 of these players will become a must-have downgrades. I'm prepared to risk losing one of them to ensure it actually happens for the other 2.

[Bully]

Dunny concerned me a bit most noticed he looked tired the interstate trip prob did not help being a rookie will be watching him this week

Exactly, first year players often go through mini form slumps, one more ordinary score and his B/E becomes negligible. Delaying bringing in Lloyd makes no sense when there are potentially 3-4 good downgrade options available next week. Lock in the profits now and give yourself every chance of grabbing the next golden goose.

So Bully being a Richmond man, your not worried about Lloyd's JS with King to come back in?

King's form has been horrible lately, I suspect this may even be his last year given we have both Gordon & Lloyd both pressing for the small forward role. At the moment I have Lloyd at the top of the pecking order, followed by Gordon and then King. 

Dunny concerned me a bit most noticed he looked tired the interstate trip prob did not help being a rookie will be watching him this week

Exactly, first year players often go through mini form slumps, one more ordinary score and his B/E becomes negligible. Delaying bringing in Lloyd makes no sense when there are potentially 3-4 good downgrade options available next week. Lock in the profits now and give yourself every chance of grabbing the next golden goose.

But we only have so many trades to use on bringing in possible cash cows, I think that if we at least wait until they are ready for their first price rise, and also make sure they are then picked to play their third game, before we use that precious trade? You are then at least guaranteed one price rise before any possible injury or form drop that sees them out of the team.

Too conservative for my liking, sometimes you have to go with your instincts and with a guy like Lloyd I think his JS is excellent, in fact as far as debuts are concerned, it was the best I've seen since Dean Polo kicked 3 goals against Essendon way back in 2004. If Lloyd scores an 80 against Brisbane, which is very likely, he becomes a must have, but then one may miss out on Gray, Robertson or Cripps as a result. If he gets injured then so be it, but he's a mature age footballer so the chances are slim IMO.

Which I am, I mentioned it on another thread but I don't subscribe to the theory that one has to make sure their cows reach maximum value before culling, it all depends on what else is on the table. As a hypothetical, lets' say Gray turns in another excellent performance and holds his place, one could therefore look at bringing him in for Ellis, making 230k in the process. The money could then used to bring in a fallen premo such as Griffen, or alternatively. stashed away with another cow being replaced eg. Robertson for Dunstan (220k profit). So in one week we have made 450k and still have some decent scoring potential still on the board, we haven't altered our bye structure and we will still get 3 price rises from our new rookies before they have their byes.

Definitely a balance needed, I guess the way I'm looking at it is that Gray and Lloyd are the only ones really pushing for next week SC selection in my mind. Worst case scenario, I don't trade this week, Cutler, Lloyd, Cripps, Robertson  and Gray all go 100+ this weekend. Obviously, Gray and Lloyd would be the ones to bring in. Cutler and Robertson really not a worry as 19/49 will limit their first price increase. Lose a small amount of profit but I'm happy to lose that for a little security/more information in making my picks. Cripps would be a shame as 75 + 100+ would make him a good pick but his price of 160k also means he frees up slightly less cash than others. So maybe I miss him. Really the only reason for me to trade one in this week is thinking that 3 of these players will become a must-have downgrades. I'm prepared to risk losing one of them to ensure it actually happens for the other 2.

I don't see too many cash cows on the horizon so i want to give myself every chance of bringing in a couple next week. If only one emerges then I'll jump straight on Griffen who has a B/E of 183 and should be around the 500k mark.

[GCSkiwi]

I don't see too many cash cows on the horizon so i want to give myself every chance of bringing in a couple next week. If only one emerges then I'll jump straight on Griffen who has a B/E of 183 and should be around the 500k mark.

Fair enough. I guess I'm just thinking is Cutler goes green vested again he's not a cash cow (yet). Same if Robertson goes sub 50, he can wait. Other players will go up more than whatever he will increase. See your point though.

[enzedder]

Plenty jumping on Lloyd, is it a couple of weeks too early? What if he gets injured before going up in price?

Any player at any time can get injured, by bringing him in now one can free up trades for other potential bubble boys next week such as Cripps, Gray, Robertson & Cutler. What happens if more than one player turns in a blinder?

While I get the point I think the problem is timing - Cripps, Robertson and Gray are all Mids, Cutler a defender, I don't think anyone would have a cow worth trading out for them yet. Maybe Tyson if he gets another 50 this week, but then that's only 1 trade. I certainly won't have a defender to cull for Cutler, or another mid to cull for 2 mid trades. Your point is only really valid if you're expecting to have 2 players ready to trade out next week already, don't think many would be.

Which I am, I mentioned it on another thread but I don't subscribe to the theory that one has to make sure their cows reach maximum value before culling, it all depends on what else is on the table. As a hypothetical, lets' say Gray turns in another excellent performance and holds his place, one could therefore look at bringing him in for Ellis, making 230k in the process. The money could then used to bring in a fallen premo such as Griffen, or alternatively. stashed away with another cow being replaced eg. Robertson for Dunstan (220k profit). So in one week we have made 450k and still have some decent scoring potential still on the board, we haven't altered our bye structure and we will still get 3 price rises from our new rookies before they have their byes.

By getting in Lloyd a week early you ensure 2 trades are free the following week for injuries to premiums as well. Some had Hanley Mumford out this week. Injuries change priorities and good bubble boys can be lost.

[Bully]

Plenty jumping on Lloyd, is it a couple of weeks too early? What if he gets injured before going up in price?

Any player at any time can get injured, by bringing him in now one can free up trades for other potential bubble boys next week such as Cripps, Gray, Robertson & Cutler. What happens if more than one player turns in a blinder?

While I get the point I think the problem is timing - Cripps, Robertson and Gray are all Mids, Cutler a defender, I don't think anyone would have a cow worth trading out for them yet. Maybe Tyson if he gets another 50 this week, but then that's only 1 trade. I certainly won't have a defender to cull for Cutler, or another mid to cull for 2 mid trades. Your point is only really valid if you're expecting to have 2 players ready to trade out next week already, don't think many would be.

Which I am, I mentioned it on another thread but I don't subscribe to the theory that one has to make sure their cows reach maximum value before culling, it all depends on what else is on the table. As a hypothetical, lets' say Gray turns in another excellent performance and holds his place, one could therefore look at bringing him in for Ellis, making 230k in the process. The money could then used to bring in a fallen premo such as Griffen, or alternatively. stashed away with another cow being replaced eg. Robertson for Dunstan (220k profit). So in one week we have made 450k and still have some decent scoring potential still on the board, we haven't altered our bye structure and we will still get 3 price rises from our new rookies before they have their byes.

By getting in Lloyd a week early you ensure 2 trades are free the following week for injuries to premiums as well. Some had Hanley Mumford out this week. Injuries change priorities and good bubble boys can be lost.

Yep, precisely why i grabbed Fasolo early, best intentions often get distracted. Another ton from Sam Gray for instance will make a Lloyd vs Gray decision very difficult indeed, don't know which way I'd go to be honest. I'm looking forward to this week because I was really impressed with Cripps as well, and I think Malthouse will start playing the kids to send out a strong message to those who are coasting like it's little league. Robbo could also find himself with a regular gig given Brisbane have been decimated by injury, a score in the 80's and he also becomes an attractive option.

But like you say, an untimely injury to a premo and the boat would have sailed with all the prospective rookies.