Idea: SC Entry Fee

[RaisyDaisy]

*Disclaimer: Not everyone would like this, but I think it needs to be tabled and considered for future years

Fantasy Sports is massive worldwide, and considering 250k-300k+ people play Supercoach every year, I think the prizes and structure need to be changed

The fact that so many people enter, and a sizeable portion of those entries take it seriously and follow through with it all year, devoting hours and hours to it because they love it, I think the fact that there is only 1 winner needs to change

50k to the winner, and donuts to 2nd and beyond is just ludicrous in my opinion and I for one would love to see things totally changed. There needs to be prizes for much more people other than just the overall winner, weekly winners and highest scoring round team of the year.

Some basic figures would suggest that HS outlays approx. 130k in prizes each year (50k+24x1k+Car), and for them to do that whilst offering free entry is mighty grand of them, but we all know they generate that money through over means and don't just give out the cash and prizes without getting anything in return (and then some!)

I propose that an entry fee to play SC is introduced. Let's say it costs each person $10 a year. If even half of the usual players put up that paltry amount, let's say 150k people put up the cash to play, that generates a prize pool of 1.5M

That Prize Pool would then be distributed on a sliding scale, and spread across a percentage base of the total entries.

Let's say the Top 10% of entries (Top 15k) made the money, and then payouts where set out accordingly. The scaling payout system could be the same as used in Poker Tournaments (X% to first, X% to 2nd, X% to 2500-3500 etc)

Now there might be issues for HS regarding licensing to offer it this way, taxes etc, but any additional costs they would need to outlay to get themselves in a position to do this would be easily recuperated. If the HS needed to generate income in order for them to do this, then they could rake each entry, say for every $10 entry $9-$9.50 was entered into the prize pool and 50c-$1 was taken by HS as a fee for them providing the competition, managing it and distributing payouts at seasons end

Obviously I would be silly to say I have it all planned out and what they would need to do to do this, but the point I am making here is that I am in favour of getting a lot more people to win prizes, because for someone to get 50k, and the next person to get nothing just doesn't make sense to me

We have our cash leagues, but even they rely on serious luck to win come finals time because on any given week anything can happen, but we know that and are OK with that, but the pursuit of overall isn't decided by who gets lucky in one week like a league final, it's a 5-6 month journey, and their should be rewards to reflect that

I'd be curious to see if anyone from HS or any other SC site chimes in here, because I would love to see something like this get legs

Discuss :)

[eaglesman]

they also have state prizes mate .. but i think it goes through the individual newspapers (i know cos i won perthnows :P)

I like the idea just dont see it happening ... but i would pay up definitely to play haha

[Nails]

I think you're severely overestimating the numbers mate.

I think you'll find only around 50K take SC seriously and finish it off. One year I started SC a week or two late and managed to still make it nearly 50-60K in the ratings.

I think you'd be lucky to see more than 25K people willing to pay to player supercoach.

You also have to consider the fact that this would be seen as gambling, betting money to win money etc. Therefore everybody under 18 would be ineligible. Poor Torp. Also very likely illegal for the most part.

[Mr.Craig]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the possibility of an entry free has been brought up previously and it was noted that it would be illegal to run such a game unless it was based in the N.T due to state gambling laws.

[upthemaidens]

  Yeah if they charged money to play, it would then become a form of gambling under the laws in place. Also (as was already stated) under 18's couldnt play.  Im not even sure if a sports betting site could run an entry fee comp.
     
    ...'Real' DT and SB pay out more than just the winner and have the prizes spread out a little more evenly.
   

[RaisyDaisy]

Yeah as mentioned in the OP I figure the biggest obstacle is that it would be considered gambling, and the flow on facts from that would make it extremely difficult from HS to justify going through all the nonsense to get themselves in a position to be able to do it

Obviously this idea would require a lot of work and the likelihood of said work being taken on is extremely low, but it would be nice if HS looked at rejigging their prize structure

Even if they did something like the Top 10 get cash, 11-25 get Grand Final Tickets, 26-100 get a team Guernsey of their team, 101-250 get a Sherrin Football etc

Surely that would be quite simple for them to do, and is a much better and easier idea then my initial entry fee suggestion

[Jroo]

Yeah as mentioned in the OP I figure the biggest obstacle is that it would be considered gambling, and the flow on facts from that would make it extremely difficult from HS to justify going through all the nonsense to get themselves in a position to be able to do it

Obviously this idea would require a lot of work and the likelihood of said work being taken on is extremely low, but it would be nice if HS looked at rejigging their prize structure

Even if they did something like the Top 10 get cash, 11-25 get Grand Final Tickets, 26-100 get a team Guernsey of their team, 101-250 get a Sherrin Football etc

Surely that would be quite simple for them to do, and is a much better and easier idea then my initial entry fee suggestion

I like this RD, good stuff.

[Ringo]

Whilst I applaud your latest idea it will more than likely involve seeking more sponsorship money which may be hard.  SC atm is sponsored by Nissan so assuming all prize money is paid out of their Sponsorship.  Berar in mind most Newspapers are losing a lot of money these days so can not see the HS putting up the additional funds.

[RaisyDaisy]

Cheers JROO - yeah I actually prefer that over my OP suggestion too - so ignore the OP and let's go with this idea now ;)

[RaisyDaisy]

Whilst I applaud your latest idea it will more than likely involve seeking more sponsorship money which may be hard.  SC atm is sponsored by Nissan so assuming all prize money is paid out of their Sponsorship.  Berar in mind most Newspapers are losing a lot of money these days so can not see the HS putting up the additional funds.

Yeah forget the OP :) I understand that it would involve way too much on their end. The idea is that more than 1 winner gets a prize, so the other suggestion a few posts above would be something I think should be quite easily achievable

[Ringo]

Sounds good and I think if the prize was maybe less than $50k for the winner numbers may suffer but remains to be seen.  I think if you add up all the prizes including State prizes, weekly prizes plus the $50k and the car it comes to around $150k.

I like the idea and maybe do away with the weekly prizes to discourage teams made for specific rounds which still happens and divert this money to the prizemoney run down as a way of distributing existing sponsorship. Keep the car prize for the highest individual score though.

[Pokerface]

Interesting post. Its exactly what Luxbet did last year with their matchday thing run by FanHub. It couldn't be done outside the corporate bookies, but Luxbet showed last year the corporate bookies can do it. Though it didn't have alot of takeup, prizes were under 1k from memory - but that would have been due in part due to the lateness of introduction and lack of advertising.

[Spuds11]

It is my belief that if you put an entry fee you would lose about half of the players that play were already paying more for sc gold and then again if we want live supercoach scores so tell me why someone should pay 10 dollars for a 4 in 220000 shot at winning  I would rather play for free and have 1 in 220000 shot at winning

[RaisyDaisy]

It is my belief that if you put an entry fee you would lose about half of the players that play were already paying more for sc gold and then again if we want live supercoach scores so tell me why someone should pay 10 dollars for a 4 in 220000 shot at winning  I would rather play for free and have 1 in 220000 shot at winning

Ignore the OP, different idea a few posts into the thread

[Holz]

they also have state prizes mate .. but i think it goes through the individual newspapers (i know cos i won perthnows :P)

I like the idea just dont see it happening ... but i would pay up definitely to play haha

what!!!

I was number one in WA.