Richmond 2014 H&A discussion

[Rusty00]

You'd think if Lennon and Lids are back this week then there is no room for Lloyd. Unless they decide to make a statement and drop Grigg, Jackson, Petterd, etc.

[Jroo]

You'd think if Lennon and Lids are back this week then there is no room for Lloyd. Unless they decide to make a statement and drop Grigg, Jackson, Petterd, etc.

Yeah, that's what I was trying to say.
No chance Jackson will be dropped, I think he's been good. Petterd's been good too and Dimma loves him.
Grigg probably won't be dropped either, even though he deserves to be  :P

[Toga]

I think Petterd is right in the firing line this week and will probably make way for one of Lids or Lennon. If both come into the team, then guys like McDonough, Newman are probably more at risk than Lloyd but you never know :-X

I will be interested to see who makes way for Rance. I am not sure we can play all 4 of Rance, Grimes, Chaplin and Astbury.

That's what I was asking last week.. On form Chappy is the one that makes way but I seriously don't know what's going to happen, don't think we can afford to play all three though.

[elephants]

Lloyd being dropped on the eve of bye-time would mean fantasy mayhem!

[Nige]

Might post this here.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/tigers-legendary-premiership-coach-tommy-hafey-faces-his-toughest-rematch-yet-as-he-battles-cancer-again/story-fni0fit3-1226900298404

For those of faith, keep Tommy Hafey in your prayers.  :)

[Toga]

Yeah thoughts are with Hafey, all the best with his treatment & recovery.

[BigMac_93]

Sad news, all the best to Tom and his family.

[elephants]

You blokes reckon Dimma would play Maric, Hampson and Griffiths in the same team?

[Nige]

You blokes reckon Dimma would play Maric, Hampson and Griffiths in the same team?

Potentially, but it means Ty wouldn't be playing.

Form could be another thing, because when Ivan comes back, Griffiths will probably have to play as a tall forward or defender. 

[elephants]

You blokes reckon Dimma would play Maric, Hampson and Griffiths in the same team?

Potentially, but it means Ty wouldn't be playing.

Form could be another thing, because when Ivan comes back, Griffiths will probably have to play as a tall forward or defender.

Yeah that was my next question haha, where does Vickery fit in? It should be interesting for sure. If Griffiths moved back he's then competing with Rance, Chaplin, Astbury and Grimes for the key-back spot.

One things for sure, you don't lack kpp's!

(Ftr, Griffiths > Chaplin, Astbury, Vickery, Hampson) ;)

[Nige]

On current form, Astbury's leading the pack of names you've mentioned.

[Toga]

You blokes reckon Dimma would play Maric, Hampson and Griffiths in the same team?

I think we can play a maximum of four out of those three + Vickery.. And even that might be too tall.

At the moment I'm thinking the pecking order will be something like: Maric > Griffiths > Hampson > Vickery. Hampson has been good and we would've been dead without him (although we're practically dead anyways this season), but he doesn't do enough around the ground to have himself ahead of Maric, and Griffiths is far more suited to the pinch-hitting forward role in my opinion as he has a fantastic contested mark & a huge boot on him, can kick goals (which Hampson can struggle with, see: time at Carlton).

I don't see us playing Griffiths down back as I think he's been a find up forwards this season, so in my opinion Hampson and Vickery might find themselves fighting out for 0 or 1 position in the team, depending on how tall Dimma wants to go. Throw Aaron Edwards into that mix as well and it'll be a hot contest.

So basically no I can't see all four of those blokes playing in the same side, imo it will be only two or three I would've thought!

[elephants]

Awesome, thanks guys! That all looks about right :)

I'm a huge Griffiths fan and its killing me to cull him this week in AF :'( Also have Hampson in SC and am thinking with Maric on his way back its almost time to cull him too (he's currently my R3).

Melbourne and GWS after your bye is very very tasty though! Almost want to hold them both through the round 8 bye and give them both a crack at the softer sides!

[Toga]

Awesome, thanks guys! That all looks about right :)

I'm a huge Griffiths fan and its killing me to cull him this week in AF :'( Also have Hampson in SC and am thinking with Maric on his way back its almost time to cull him too (he's currently my R3).

Melbourne and GWS after your bye is very very tasty though! Almost want to hold them both through the round 8 bye and give them both a crack at the softer sides!

Yeah I love Griffo but getting rid of him this week as well in AF. Our upcoming draw does look tasty but he could well chuck up a 40 this week against a very experienced Geelong defence, while Maric could be back as early as R9 so there's question marks over how his return will affect everyone... I would look at culling Griff for sure, Hampson could be worth persisting with for a few more weeks but his time is just around the corner as well!

[Nige]

I'm adamant that this could be Az Edwards' last season with us.

The guy is like 30 now and we've got guys who are younger who can play a similar role. I don't mind him and I think he's been pretty decent in the games he's played, but he always did feel like a stopgap player imo.

I do feel our small and medium forwards seem to do okay though.

Lloyd, McDonough (although he seems to have been made a defender), Beatle (hasn't played but it's imminent), Knights, Petterd (can swing), Push-Up (you'd think this could be his final year as well), not to mention we have guys like Dusty, Arnot etc that are mids that can play forward too (that aren't talls).

I still don't think we've quite found the structure that suits our forward line the best.