McDonald V Langford

[quinny88]

Kind of hoping McDonald is the sub so I can just get rid of him but if he's not then which of these guys would you play on the field?

[Grufflez]

Tough call mate, i am fielding Langford.

[Ricochet]

Grab Langford mate. Has pretty good JS imo and LMac has vest written all over him

[RaisyDaisy]

Need to make the same call

I want to start Langford - and am really hoping McDonald starts as sub tonight just so it makes the decision for me

If LMac starts, and I don't field him, and then Langford gets subbed I would be ropeable! I might just start LMac is he isn't the sub tonight

Either way I am missing out on Langdons 111 which sucks, so I just want who ever I field out of these two to go as close as possibly - if they could manage an 80 I would be rapt

[GCSkiwi]

I want to start Langford - and am really hoping McDonald starts as sub tonight just so it makes the decision for me

If LMac starts, and I don't field him, and then Langford gets subbed I would be ropeable! I might just start LMac is he isn't the sub tonight

You have to do this really. As unlikely as it seems that Langford will get the green vest, if LMac is starting tonight surely you have to start him... why take the risk?

[E-Lemon_ator]

yea but on the other hand. Langford V Brisbane is likely to score higher than McDonald V Essendon.  The bombers will be a far tougher opponent

[felsty]

I think langdon showed that it doesn't matter how tough your opponent is.
In fact for defence rookies it is probably better as the ball we be down their end a whole lot more.
I don't subscribe to the whole 'look who he is playing' argument anymore.. not unless you can statistically say it will have an affect on them

[E-Lemon_ator]

Na Feltsy, just gut feeling mate

[GCSkiwi]

yea but on the other hand. Langford V Brisbane is likely to score higher than McDonald V Essendon.  The bombers will be a far tougher opponent

If Langford tags then Brisbane will give him a trial by fire for an introduction to the game... I agree that he could score better than LMac if both were not vested but the trick is you wont know about Langford before LMac plays. If LMac is unvested it's not worth the risk to not play him on field.

[quinny88]

Came to the decision that if McDonald is named on field then I have to play him. Not sitting 182k on the bench. Would be better off just giving him the flick for Georiou if im going to do that

[felsty]

yea but on the other hand. Langford V Brisbane is likely to score higher than McDonald V Essendon.  The bombers will be a far tougher opponent

If Langford tags then Brisbane will give him a trial by fire for an introduction to the game... I agree that he could score better than LMac if both were not vested but the trick is you wont know about Langford before LMac plays. If LMac is unvested it's not worth the risk to not play him on field.

Na Feltsy, just gut feeling mate

exactly! how about instead of gut feel you be a bit more clinical about it and use hard facts. If LMac is not the sub, you know that he will most likely play a full game, 3 qrts at the very least unless he is injured.
By all means take an educated guess if you think Langford will play a full game and outscore him as well but dont leave it to gut feel lol

[GCSkiwi]

I have no issue with people using gut feel and I have gone against mine only for it to backfire spectacularly and make me regret it. Having said that, gut feel seems to be much more reliable with prems than rookies. Rooks you have no idea what you're in for really, so you take the safest option, which is LMac if he has no green vest.

4 possible outcomes:
LMac no vest, Langford no vest: Langford probably scores more but the difference will be <15pts

LMac no vest, Langford vest: LMac scores more than Langford simply due to TOG. difference could easily be 30+pts

LMac vest, Langford no vest: You don't field LMac because you're not silly, and you get more points from Langford

LMac vest, Langford vest: Again, you don't field LMac because you're not silly, you curse the SC gods at your luck and you take a hit with Langfords points - still haven't lost anything on difference with LMac though. If you're really clever, you also have Georgiou as a safety net.

It makes NO sense to field Langford if LMac is starting.

[Bully]

Given Langford will be tagging, I wonder how this will effect his output. I just had a quick peruse of Ryan Crowley's career stats and he's averaged 56, 58 & 58 over the past 3 years. Different players of course but one needs to be realistic about his scoring potential.

[Ricochet]

Its only NAB but... Langford went at 104pts per 100min across 3 games

[ubeaut]

Given Langford will be tagging, I wonder how this will effect his output. I just had a quick peruse of Ryan Crowley's career stats and he's averaged 56, 58 & 58 over the past 3 years. Different players of course but one needs to be realistic about his scoring potential.

Exactly is he a Cowley type of tagger or a S.Selwood/Carrazzo type who gets a lot of it?