NFL Season 2014/2015

[RiOtChEsS]

celebration to the max.



Father n Daughter seem thrilled.

is he cupping side b00b :o

well he do do things differently :P yep thats right i used the term 'do do' n it felt great ;D

[j959]

when u think about the season as a whole its kind of fitting the cheatriots won

i dont dispute that the patriots beat seattle fair and square, did they get there fair and square? we will never know

one thing for sure is that nobody will ever win as many *asteriskbowls as the cheatriots

Bitter much ;)

i dont know you Jay, but we are all a little deflated at the moment

Haha I just think there's a total disrespect for the awesome run the Patriots have achieved.

At the end of the day, all the haters can go back to their mediocre teams while we're celebrating Brady's 4th :)

I think they've just ruined/destroyed their own legacy Jayman - I didn't see the ' Deflategate' press conferences by Belichick and Brady but the commentary I read was pretty damning of how they blatantly tried to plead ignorance ...  ::)  :P    :-X
#tranishedlegacy

[Jay]

when u think about the season as a whole its kind of fitting the cheatriots won

i dont dispute that the patriots beat seattle fair and square, did they get there fair and square? we will never know

one thing for sure is that nobody will ever win as many *asteriskbowls as the cheatriots

Bitter much ;)

i dont know you Jay, but we are all a little deflated at the moment

Haha I just think there's a total disrespect for the awesome run the Patriots have achieved.

At the end of the day, all the haters can go back to their mediocre teams while we're celebrating Brady's 4th :)

I think they've just ruined/destroyed their own legacy Jayman - I didn't see the ' Deflategate' press conferences by Belichick and Brady but the commentary I read was pretty damning of how they blatantly tried to plead ignorance ...  ::)  :P    :-X
#tranishedlegacy

Haha another Pats hater :P this is why this Super Bowl is so sweet.. Because everyone wanted us to fail ;D

As for deflategate, why would they admit to something they believe is completely false? New reports say that only one ball was deflated (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/new-report-says-only-one-patriots-football-was-seriously-deflated-165514858.html). You're telling me that there's no way that one ball could have been deflated because of the weather? It was pissing down that day and the balls were weighed 2.5 hours before game time. And besides, we won 45-7 and scored 28 points with the "normal" balls.

We got to the SuperBowl fair and square, and won the Super Bowl fair and square. As for our first three championships having an asterisk, remember that the rules on video taping didn't get changed UNTIL 2006. Which is after our first 3 SuperBowls ???

All the Pats haters have been saying "You haven't win a SuperBowl since Spygate". And now we have, people are looking for any excuse to discount this one as well. No matter how dumb, like 1 deflated ball costing the Colts a game they lost 45-7 ;)

[j959]

when u think about the season as a whole its kind of fitting the cheatriots won

i dont dispute that the patriots beat seattle fair and square, did they get there fair and square? we will never know

one thing for sure is that nobody will ever win as many *asteriskbowls as the cheatriots

Bitter much ;)

i dont know you Jay, but we are all a little deflated at the moment

Haha I just think there's a total disrespect for the awesome run the Patriots have achieved.

At the end of the day, all the haters can go back to their mediocre teams while we're celebrating Brady's 4th :)

I think they've just ruined/destroyed their own legacy Jayman - I didn't see the ' Deflategate' press conferences by Belichick and Brady but the commentary I read was pretty damning of how they blatantly tried to plead ignorance ...  ::)  :P    :-X
#tranishedlegacy

Haha another Pats hater :P this is why this Super Bowl is so sweet.. Because everyone wanted us to fail ;D

As for deflategate, why would they admit to something they believe is completely false? New reports say that only one ball was deflated (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/new-report-says-only-one-patriots-football-was-seriously-deflated-165514858.html). You're telling me that there's no way that one ball could have been deflated because of the weather? It was pissing down that day and the balls were weighed 2.5 hours before game time. And besides, we won 45-7 and scored 28 points with the "normal" balls.

We got to the SuperBowl fair and square, and won the Super Bowl fair and square. As for our first three championships having an asterisk, remember that the rules on video taping didn't get changed UNTIL 2006. Which is after our first 3 SuperBowls ???

All the Pats haters have been saying "You haven't win a SuperBowl since Spygate". And now we have, people are looking for any excuse to discount this one as well. No matter how dumb, like 1 deflated ball costing the Colts a game they lost 45-7 ;)

i'm not a hater, just saying they've tarnished their legacy ...

my reading was 7 balls under-inflated with 1 ball w/in PSI levels ... 7 out of 8 balls the Pats used in that game against he Colts were under-inflated according to NFL rules - I see your link but I had heard they wouldn't do a hearing on the matter until after the superbowl so i'm prepared to reserve judgment until after the NFL completes its own investigation, unless you're saying this has already been completed??

speaking of potentially tarnished legacies, if you're at all interested in MMA have a look at the link i'm about to post in the UFC thread ...  :o    :(   

[Jukes]

It's copy pasta but whatever

2000: Throws 3 passes all season as he rides the bench
2001: Throws only 1 TD the entire playoffs as spying, defense and Adam Vinatieri carry him to a Super Bowl victory
2002: Throws for less yards than Kerry Collins in regular season as Patriots finish behind Dolphins and Jets in the AFC East to miss the playoffs
2003: Throws less TDs than Aaron Brooks in regular season; spying, defense and Adam Vinatieri carry him to Super Bowl victory
2004: Throws less TDs than Jake Delhomme in regular season; spying, defense and Adam Vinatieri carry him to Super Bowl victory
2005: Throws 2 INTs and gets outplayed by Jake Plummer as Patriots lose to Broncos in divisional round
2006: Throws 3 INTs with a 57.6 QB rating while barely getting by Chargers, implodes against Colts in AFC Championship loss
2007: Throws 1 TD and gets outplayed by Eli Manning in the biggest choke in professional sports history, blowing immortality and a perfect season. "MVP" year
2008: Throws 11 passes before missing the entire rest of the year because he can't withstand a basic hit
2009: Throws 3 INTs at home with a 49.1 QB rating in one & done elimination loss to the Ravens
2010: Throws INT after not throwing one since Week 5 and gets outplayed by Mark Sanchez in one & done elimination at home loss to Jets. "MVP" year
2011: Throws 2 INTs with a 57.5 QB rating while barely getting by the Ravens; gets outplayed by Eli Manning in the Super Bowl...again
2012: Throws 2 INTs with a 62.3 QB rating in AFC Championship loss to Ravens
2013: Throws less TDs than Andy Dalton in regular season. Comfortably outplayed by Peyton Manning in second consecutive AFC Championship loss
2014: Throws for less yards than Eli Manning in regular season. Cheating, defense and Rob Gronkowski carry him to Super Bowl victory

Career: 8 playoff losses, more than noted choke artist Donovan McNabb.
Worse playoff winning percentage than Trent Dilfer, Jeff Hostetler, Mark Rypien, Joe Theisman and Eli Manning.
Hasn't won a Super Bowl without cheating, defense and/or Adam Vinatieri to bail him out.

[Jay]

A list like that can be made for any player. Not hard to just pick out the poor parts of a 15 year career. Heck, Michael Jordan didn't win a ring without Scottie and Phil. Took him years to finally break through after being beat out by Detroit time and time again. And the year he comes back, they get bounced out in 5 by Orlando. Does that make him not the greatest?

8 playoff losses in 15 years... Yeah what a choke artist ::)

Before Monday I had him in front of Peyton but behind Montana. Now though, a case can be made that he is the greatest football player to ever live. And it's quite an easy one to make.

Coming from 10 down against one of the best defenses of all time is better than anything Montana, Peyton, Elway etc. ever did in their careers. 3 game winning drives in Superbowls and is a 3 time MVP in such games. I love that you mention Gronkowski carrying him this year, yet he didn't even have 80 yards in the Super Bowl. What's next? He got carried by Julian Edelman? Might want to watch that 4th quarter again, he was throwing lasers. Winning superbowls 13 years apart is incredible, no QB has ever come close to that.

It's hard to believe what his career might have looked like if he ever had high quality receivers like Montana and Peyton have. Here's another fun game, try and name the running backs the Pats have been to SuperBowls with. Hint: they're all nobodies.

Brady has the highest winning percentage out of any QB in NFL history. Sure Belichick is a good coach but he's only had 1 winning season in the 6 year he didn't have Tom Brady. And the only thing stopping Brady from having 6 SuperBowls is a couple of bad plas by the Pats defense.

He's the best ever. *drops mic*

[Capper]

*picks up mic*

to the bar staff, can we please cut him off for the rest of the year

[Mat0369]

Because Moss is not a high quality receiver? He has had Moss and arguably the best slot guy to have played the game in Welker to go along with a guy that is on pace to become the GOAT TE in Gronk. It is not like he was throwing to Stinkston and Trash like McNabb. Deion Branch was the SB MVP, Troy Brown was no slouch and Corey Dillon to hand the ball off to in one of those games.

In his four Super Bowls, Montana completed 83 of 122 passes for 1,142 yards and 11 touchdowns with no interceptions, earning him a passer rating of 127.8. Montana led his team to victory in each game, and was the first player ever to win three Super Bowl MVP awards.

[Jay]

Because Moss is not a high quality receiver? He has had Moss and arguably the best slot guy to have played the game in Welker to go along with a guy that is on pace to become the GOAT TE in Gronk. It is not like he was throwing to Stinkston and Trash like McNabb. Deion Branch was the SB MVP, Troy Brown was no slouch and Corey Dillon to hand the ball off to in one of those games.

In his four Super Bowls, Montana completed 83 of 122 passes for 1,142 yards and 11 touchdowns with no interceptions, earning him a passer rating of 127.8. Montana led his team to victory in each game, and was the first player ever to win three Super Bowl MVP awards.

He had Moss for 1 year and threw 50 touchdowns! ??? Was also named the unanimous mvp... It's not like he didn't put up numbers when Moss was around. Look at Welker without Brady, he's done nothing in Denver. Seriously, Montana had Jerry flowering Rice as receiver.

Brady has been to 6, Montana only 4. And I think you need to look at the defenses Montana and Brady came up against in the SuperBowls. Brady's losses came against a historically good pass rush, and he just beat probably the best secondary ever putting up a 97 QBR in the 4th when down by 10. The LOB knew he was throwing just couldn't stop it.

[Holz]

no need to back him up Jay, he is a legend. it's tall poppy syndrome.

lets just hope he can win 1-2 more.

[Jukes]

(I'm a lazy flower so will only reply to the last message)

Because Moss is not a high quality receiver? He has had Moss and arguably the best slot guy to have played the game in Welker to go along with a guy that is on pace to become the GOAT TE in Gronk. It is not like he was throwing to Stinkston and Trash like McNabb. Deion Branch was the SB MVP, Troy Brown was no slouch and Corey Dillon to hand the ball off to in one of those games.

In his four Super Bowls, Montana completed 83 of 122 passes for 1,142 yards and 11 touchdowns with no interceptions, earning him a passer rating of 127.8. Montana led his team to victory in each game, and was the first player ever to win three Super Bowl MVP awards.

He had Moss for 1 year and threw 50 touchdowns! ??? Was also named the unanimous mvp... It's not like he didn't put up numbers when Moss was around. Look at Welker without Brady, he's done nothing in Denver. Seriously, Montana had Jerry flowering Rice as receiver.

Brady has been to 6, Montana only 4. And I think you need to look at the defenses Montana and Brady came up against in the SuperBowls. Brady's losses came against a historically good pass rush, and he just beat probably the best secondary ever putting up a 97 QBR in the 4th when down by 10. The LOB knew he was throwing just couldn't stop it.

"Historically good pass rush"...07 and 11 giants? Hahahaha Joe had to play against LT for pretty much his whole career, not to mention part of that Steeler's GOAT D (Ham, Lambert, Greene...)

Kaepernick has beaten the LOB more times than Brady has...and you can't just say in the 4th! You can't cover up 2 picks.

[Jay]

no need to back him up Jay, he is a legend. it's tall poppy syndrome.

lets just hope he can win 1-2 more.

Odds are he does. We're the youngest team to ever win a Super Bowl.

(I'm a lazy flower so will only reply to the last message)

Because Moss is not a high quality receiver? He has had Moss and arguably the best slot guy to have played the game in Welker to go along with a guy that is on pace to become the GOAT TE in Gronk. It is not like he was throwing to Stinkston and Trash like McNabb. Deion Branch was the SB MVP, Troy Brown was no slouch and Corey Dillon to hand the ball off to in one of those games.

In his four Super Bowls, Montana completed 83 of 122 passes for 1,142 yards and 11 touchdowns with no interceptions, earning him a passer rating of 127.8. Montana led his team to victory in each game, and was the first player ever to win three Super Bowl MVP awards.

He had Moss for 1 year and threw 50 touchdowns! ??? Was also named the unanimous mvp... It's not like he didn't put up numbers when Moss was around. Look at Welker without Brady, he's done nothing in Denver. Seriously, Montana had Jerry flowering Rice as receiver.

Brady has been to 6, Montana only 4. And I think you need to look at the defenses Montana and Brady came up against in the SuperBowls. Brady's losses came against a historically good pass rush, and he just beat probably the best secondary ever putting up a 97 QBR in the 4th when down by 10. The LOB knew he was throwing just couldn't stop it.

"Historically good pass rush"...07 and 11 giants? Hahahaha Joe had to play against LT for pretty much his whole career, not to mention part of that Steeler's GOAT D (Ham, Lambert, Greene...)

Kaepernick has beaten the LOB more times than Brady has...and you can't just say in the 4th! You can't cover up 2 picks.

â€" Largest 4th quarter comeback in Super Bowl history
â€" Brady did that against the No. 1 defense in the NFL (by some metrics)
â€" the Seahawks defense had given up 13 points in the 4th quarter … over the last eight games
â€" Brady was a staggering 13-of-15 for 124 yards and two touchdowns with two lengthy scoring drives in the final eight minutes

There's absolutely no shame in throwing 2 picks against the LOB. They're one of the best secondaries ever. Lol that you even mentioned Kaepernick, he was one of the worst starting QBs in the league this season - a total gimmick.

[Mat0369]

The LOB he came up against also had Thomas with a dislocated shoulder, Sherman go in for Tommy John surgery right after the game (which is career ending for some players), Kam in a brace because he had a bum knee and Lane break his arm after he intercepted Brady. This is not the same LOB. The throws that Brady made that exploited that defense were on Simon and Wright covering Gronk 1 on 1

[Jay]

The LOB he came up against also had Thomas with a dislocated shoulder, Sherman go in for Tommy John surgery right after the game (which is career ending for some players), Kam in a brace because he had a bum knee and Lane break his arm after he intercepted Brady. This is not the same LOB. The throws that Brady made that exploited that defense were on Simon and Wright covering Gronk 1 on 1

They were on the field, that means they're fit to play. Not sure how many more excuses you can make.

He went 13-15, 2 touchdowns in the 4th. With the defense expecting pass. 3rd and 14 to Edelman was awesome and so was Gronk on Chancellor 1 on 1.

[Mat0369]

If you think they were fit you are delusional. It's the freakin Super Bowl, you would have to cut their legs off for those guys to not play and even then they would still try and play. They were clearly hobbled and since Lane never came back Brady started picking on their 4th corner who got beat on 5 or 6 critical plays