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Started by Jay, March 15, 2014, 07:58:17 PM

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RiOtChEsS

I think that bill belicheat better have some trickery up his sleeves, I can see Seattle getting to Brady early and often, I don't think the pats can run the ball on them and it will make the pats play the way the Seahawks want them too, receivers vs corners

Jay

Quote from: RiOtChEsS on January 31, 2015, 09:51:23 PM
I think that bill belicheat better have some trickery up his sleeves, I can see Seattle getting to Brady early and often, I don't think the pats can run the ball on them and it will make the pats play the way the Seahawks want them too, receivers vs corners
People have overreacted to that KC game regarding our offensive line.. Since Bryan Stork came in we have had elite pass protection. Seattle aren't overly aggresive going after the QB either.. Am not worried at all about them getting pressure on Brady. Besides, he has one of the best QBR's in the league against the blitz.

Seattle's secondary vs our passing attack is dead even imo. So many ways the Pats can beat you, I think Vereen out of the backfield will be key. And Gronk is Gronk, there's no way they shut him out.

We'll put up points no doubt about it. It'll just be about whether Seattle's run keeps Brady off the field.

Mat0369

The Hawks D is nasty, if Thomas is healthy they will do to the Pats what they did to the Broncos last season.

RiOtChEsS

I'm excited to see what happens, I'm certain Pete Carroll is going to dial up something out of the ordinary on both sides of the ball.
At most I think the pats will run 20 run plays for about 60 yards, imo it will come down to pats receivers vs Seahawks corner's, I give the edge to Seattle because they thrive on that style.
If I were in your shoes id rather revis go to kearse, Baldwin isn't elite and kearse seems to be his favorite deep ball/red zone target

Jay

Quote from: Mat0369 on February 01, 2015, 02:48:03 AM
The Hawks D is nasty, if Thomas is healthy they will do to the Pats what they did to the Broncos last season.
No chance, our offense is completely different. They were relying on DT to beat the Seattle secondary downfield - that's a recipe for disaster. We utilise a lot of short throws and if anything is going to go deep it'll be Gronk up the seam - I'll take my chances on Gronk vs anyone.

Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 01, 2015, 09:50:04 AM
I'm excited to see what happens, I'm certain Pete Carroll is going to dial up something out of the ordinary on both sides of the ball.
At most I think the pats will run 20 run plays for about 60 yards, imo it will come down to pats receivers vs Seahawks corner's, I give the edge to Seattle because they thrive on that style.
If I were in your shoes id rather revis go to kearse, Baldwin isn't elite and kearse seems to be his favorite deep ball/red zone target
Well if you think Carroll is going to dial up some stuff, wait until you see what Belichick does.. He's the best coach there is at sniffing out what the opposition does poorly and exploiting it. Sure, Seattle thrive on receivers vs corners matchups.. But so does Tom frickin Brady. He's still a much better passed than Wilson and that's where we get the edge.
I'd put Arrington on Kearse with some safety help

RiOtChEsS

Brady was better than Eli manning and Brady had Randy freakin moss but they only put 14pts n lost, strange things happen in superbowls

Mat0369

Last years Broncos had a much better offense then the Pats but didn't have any form of a defense to keep them in the game. It wasn't all DT deep. You had Decker, JT, Welker and DT with Moreno in the run game. Manning tried making those short/intermediate throws but the Hawks D swarmed. Moreno last year is a lot better then Blount and the Broncos receiving core as a whole is a lot better then the Pats.  You also have the best QB's in the league at running the football in Wilson. Unlike other running QB's he isn't a 1 trick pony, he will buy time for those mediocre receivers to get open so the Pats better be getting a rush and hold their contain.

The best chance the Pats have is Gronk all day as the Hawks were exploited by TE's a few times (Gates). Considering Thomas is hurting and doesn't have the size Kam is likely to try and cover him

Jay

Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 01, 2015, 10:02:28 AM
Brady was better than Eli manning and Brady had Randy freakin moss but they only put 14pts n lost, strange things happen in superbowls
That Giants pass rush is better than what Seattle has. The Seahawks' strength is their secondary.. Brady is going to have time to throw and we know how good he is when he gets that. We have a 100% healthy Gronk.. I'll bet you anything we score 20+. Can Seattle do that too? That's the question.

And Riot, I don't want to hear that Belicheat name again.. You realise that your Cowboys have had salary cap violations, Scandrick got done for PEDs, and Jerry Jones parties with the NFL head of officiating? ;)

Quote from: Mat0369 on February 01, 2015, 11:08:43 AM
Last years Broncos had a much better offense then the Pats but didn't have any form of a defense to keep them in the game. It wasn't all DT deep. You had Decker, JT, Welker and DT with Moreno in the run game. Manning tried making those short/intermediate throws but the Hawks D swarmed. Moreno last year is a lot better then Blount and the Broncos receiving core as a whole is a lot better then the Pats.  You also have the best QB's in the league at running the football in Wilson. Unlike other running QB's he isn't a 1 trick pony, he will buy time for those mediocre receivers to get open so the Pats better be getting a rush and hold their contain.

The best chance the Pats have is Gronk all day as the Hawks were exploited by TE's a few times (Gates). Considering Thomas is hurting and doesn't have the size Kam is likely to try and cover him
You're forgetting that playoff Brady is twice as good as Peyton. Seriously, that dude was awful in the SuperBowl. Unless you think Brady won't show up, its not going to be a blowout. And if it is, its because Seattle can't score - their offense looked completely lifeless last game until the Packers started choking. Wilson is good but I'm really questioning whether he'll be able to throw in this game. Jamie Collins has a huge job, I think he'll likely be used to spy Wilson at times. And then you've got Ninkovich too who is awesome at containing the QB.

Jukes

Quote from: Jayman on February 01, 2015, 12:48:16 PM
You're forgetting that playoff Brady is twice as good as Peyton. Seriously, that dude was awful in the SuperBowl.

Peyton legitimate super bowls: 1
Brady legitimate super bowls: 0

Jay

Quote from: Biff Tannen on February 01, 2015, 01:17:35 PM
Quote from: Jayman on February 01, 2015, 12:48:16 PM
You're forgetting that playoff Brady is twice as good as Peyton. Seriously, that dude was awful in the SuperBowl.

Peyton legitimate super bowls: 1
Brady legitimate super bowls: 0
Coming from a dude who supports a Niners team that were busted for skirting the salary cap INCLUDING A VIOLATION INVOLVING THE SUPERBOWL XXIX MVP, STEVE YOUNG.
If that's not cheating, I don't know what is.

Every team has had indiscretions, its just the Pats that people keep talking about because we keep winning.


Holz

Come Monday

Brady legitimate super bowls: 4

Jay

Quote from: Biff Tannen on February 01, 2015, 01:28:24 PM
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=49ers+cheating&oq=49ers+cheating&aqs=chrome..69i57.1223j0j1&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=119&ie=UTF-8
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You're just lucky I didn't mention the Niners comminication jamming as well as the blatant salary cap violations.


Quote from: Holz on February 01, 2015, 01:31:04 PM
Come Monday

Brady legitimate super bowls: 4
It'll be basically 5 come Monday.. I refuse to believe the helmet catch actually happened. I just hope that Wilson hasn't taken the "Lucky As Flower QB" mantle from Eli after last week!

JBs-Hawks

So Rodgers robbed Watt of the MVP

Mat0369

Great defense will always beat great offense. You are also underrating the Hawks rushers. They lost CC but he missed the SB last year anyway. They have enough edge rushers and the secondary will give them enough time to get to Brady. While GB choked that defesne was still causing turnovers. The Pats D is better then the Pack but the Pack offense>>>>>>Pats. The Hawks also have a real good ST unit. This will be about all 3 facets of the game and Seattle should be able to win in two of those. Wagner is also really good sideline to sideline and I expect him to be huge in trying to contain Gronk with Kam. The only thing that I can see really helping the Pats is Browner due to him knowing that scheme so in depth. He might be able to help identify some of the looks the Seattle D throw the Pats way