Anyone changed Dusty to Roughguts after yesterday? I have

[Ricochet]

Just remember... it was Melbourne.

Yes! i completely understand! Was just trying to prove he will have a bigger ceiling without Buddy. Melb does exist in the afl so his score would count towards this ceiling :P IMO, putting my man love aside, he is good for a 97-102 average with Buddy gone. People dont understand how little Roughy was targeted inside 50 last year, especially for a Coleman medalist. With Buddy gone, all he needs to do is average one more mark I50 and the extra shot, to average over 100.

Buddy was actually targeted less last year than 2012. Not sure on Roughy's stats but Buddy dropped from 36% to 27% in 2013.

[hawkers65]

Just remember... it was Melbourne.

Yes! i completely understand! Was just trying to prove he will have a bigger ceiling without Buddy. Melb does exist in the afl so his score would count towards this ceiling :P IMO, putting my man love aside, he is good for a 97-102 average with Buddy gone. People dont understand how little Roughy was targeted inside 50 last year, especially for a Coleman medalist. With Buddy gone, all he needs to do is average one more mark I50 and the extra shot, to average over 100.

Buddy was actually targeted less last year than 2012. Not sure on Roughy's stats but Buddy dropped from 36% to 27% in 2013.

Yeah i noticed that but I think Roughy was sitting at mid 20's as well. Which is tiny for a Coleman medalist! My point is, he'll see more of the ball, that is all. Agree with most that has been previously stated. Would love to see JRoo's and Clokes stats, they would see a huge percent compared with Roughy! Thats why what he did last year was so impressive!

[Ricochet]

Just remember... it was Melbourne.

Yes! i completely understand! Was just trying to prove he will have a bigger ceiling without Buddy. Melb does exist in the afl so his score would count towards this ceiling :P IMO, putting my man love aside, he is good for a 97-102 average with Buddy gone. People dont understand how little Roughy was targeted inside 50 last year, especially for a Coleman medalist. With Buddy gone, all he needs to do is average one more mark I50 and the extra shot, to average over 100.

Buddy was actually targeted less last year than 2012. Not sure on Roughy's stats but Buddy dropped from 36% to 27% in 2013.

Yeah i noticed that but I think Roughy was sitting at mid 20's as well. Which is tiny for a Coleman medalist! My point is, he'll see more of the ball, that is all. Agree with most that has been previously stated. Would love to see JRoo's and Clokes stats, they would see a huge percent compared with Roughy! Thats why what he did last year was so impressive!

Thought I'd look into it. Don't have the %s but have their marks inside 50.

Franklin 47
Roughead 73
Cloke 99
JRoo 71

Didn't realise Buddy was that low. Its only marks inside 50 though, not targets but you'd assume they'd be similar.

[kilbluff1985]

he will also receive more attention and get double teamed

[tor01doc]

Just remember... it was Melbourne.

Yes! i completely understand! Was just trying to prove he will have a bigger ceiling without Buddy. Melb does exist in the afl so his score would count towards this ceiling :P IMO, putting my man love aside, he is good for a 97-102 average with Buddy gone. People dont understand how little Roughy was targeted inside 50 last year, especially for a Coleman medalist. With Buddy gone, all he needs to do is average one more mark I50 and the extra shot, to average over 100.

Buddy was actually targeted less last year than 2012. Not sure on Roughy's stats but Buddy dropped from 36% to 27% in 2013.

Yeah i noticed that but I think Roughy was sitting at mid 20's as well. Which is tiny for a Coleman medalist! My point is, he'll see more of the ball, that is all. Agree with most that has been previously stated. Would love to see JRoo's and Clokes stats, they would see a huge percent compared with Roughy! Thats why what he did last year was so impressive!

Thought I'd look into it. Don't have the %s but have their marks inside 50.

Franklin 47
Roughead 73
Cloke 99
JRoo 71

Didn't realise Buddy was that low. Its only marks inside 50 though, not targets but you'd assume they'd be similar.

My statistical analysis reveals that Lance Franklin is the worst overhead mark per height in centimetres.

[Ziplock]

Just remember... it was Melbourne.

Yes! i completely understand! Was just trying to prove he will have a bigger ceiling without Buddy. Melb does exist in the afl so his score would count towards this ceiling :P IMO, putting my man love aside, he is good for a 97-102 average with Buddy gone. People dont understand how little Roughy was targeted inside 50 last year, especially for a Coleman medalist. With Buddy gone, all he needs to do is average one more mark I50 and the extra shot, to average over 100.

Buddy was actually targeted less last year than 2012. Not sure on Roughy's stats but Buddy dropped from 36% to 27% in 2013.

Yeah i noticed that but I think Roughy was sitting at mid 20's as well. Which is tiny for a Coleman medalist! My point is, he'll see more of the ball, that is all. Agree with most that has been previously stated. Would love to see JRoo's and Clokes stats, they would see a huge percent compared with Roughy! Thats why what he did last year was so impressive!

Thought I'd look into it. Don't have the %s but have their marks inside 50.

Franklin 47
Roughead 73
Cloke 99
JRoo 71

Didn't realise Buddy was that low. Its only marks inside 50 though, not targets but you'd assume they'd be similar.

My statistical analysis reveals that Lance Franklin is the worst overhead mark per height in centimetres.

I'm normally all for stats, and I love them, but you probably didn't need them to prove this one :P

For his size buddy is a very average overhead mark.

(although, apparently average is being a bit generous :P )

[Ricochet]

Just remember... it was Melbourne.

Yes! i completely understand! Was just trying to prove he will have a bigger ceiling without Buddy. Melb does exist in the afl so his score would count towards this ceiling :P IMO, putting my man love aside, he is good for a 97-102 average with Buddy gone. People dont understand how little Roughy was targeted inside 50 last year, especially for a Coleman medalist. With Buddy gone, all he needs to do is average one more mark I50 and the extra shot, to average over 100.

Buddy was actually targeted less last year than 2012. Not sure on Roughy's stats but Buddy dropped from 36% to 27% in 2013.

Yeah i noticed that but I think Roughy was sitting at mid 20's as well. Which is tiny for a Coleman medalist! My point is, he'll see more of the ball, that is all. Agree with most that has been previously stated. Would love to see JRoo's and Clokes stats, they would see a huge percent compared with Roughy! Thats why what he did last year was so impressive!

Thought I'd look into it. Don't have the %s but have their marks inside 50.

Franklin 47
Roughead 73
Cloke 99
JRoo 71

Didn't realise Buddy was that low. Its only marks inside 50 though, not targets but you'd assume they'd be similar.

My statistical analysis reveals that Lance Franklin is the worst overhead mark per height in centimetres.

I'm normally all for stats, and I love them, but you probably didn't need them to prove this one :P

For his size buddy is a very average overhead mark.

(although, apparently average is being a bit generous :P )

I don't think he would have lost 50% of marking contests though. I think it highlights how high Buddy played up the ground

[Pokerface]

Hawkers, I don't know how much credibility we have as we are the only ones arguing the case for and both hawk supporters. I say let them pick the inconsistent Dusty and we'll get the edge  :P

ps Bring back the old AV!!

[hawkers65]

Hawkers, I don't know how much credibility we have as we are the only ones arguing the case for and both hawk supporters. I say let them pick the inconsistent Dusty and we'll get the edge  :P

ps Bring back the old AV!!

Thats the stupid thing, i'm not against them! I'd pick Dusty over Roughy every day of the week! i just happen to have both.

IMO: Roughy- 102 and Martin 106

[bowyanger]

I reckon i could count on both hands the times franklin took an overhead mark - however the amount of times he let it go over his head and run onto it running into goal...well that wouldve been at least 5 times a game

Gotta play to your strengths I guess and as Franks slows down a bit - he may start trying the overhead mark more