123k CUNNINGHAM will start Rd 1

Started by Derryn23, March 07, 2014, 11:22:30 AM

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gogonz

Quote from: Grufflez on March 07, 2014, 01:23:56 PM
Of course the Swans will play some rookies R1...they are versing the Giants.

This.

Played Rd 1 of 2012 as well.  Then not sighted again.

colmullet

there's no way they will play rookies for the sake of playing GWS round 1, if anything its a nice way for the older guys to ease their way into the season, there's no list management in round 1 guys all want to play

Capper

Why would you need to give players in your best 22 a rest for R1 so that Rookies can get a game.

If your best 22 are avaliable then your best 22 play.
Quote from: gogonz on March 07, 2014, 04:23:01 PM
Quote from: Grufflez on March 07, 2014, 01:23:56 PM
Of course the Swans will play some rookies R1...they are versing the Giants.

This.

Played Rd 1 of 2012 as well.  Then not sighted again.
i Still dont get your point. ROK was still coming back from injury in R1 2012 so Cunners stepped up for 1 week. ROK came back for R2 as the sub. Cunners had a shocking year last year as was lucky not to get delisted

Spite

Quote from: tabs on March 07, 2014, 04:59:02 PM
Why would you need to give players in your best 22 a rest for R1 so that Rookies can get a game.

If your best 22 are avaliable then your best 22 play.
Quote from: gogonz on March 07, 2014, 04:23:01 PM
Quote from: Grufflez on March 07, 2014, 01:23:56 PM
Of course the Swans will play some rookies R1...they are versing the Giants.

This.

Played Rd 1 of 2012 as well.  Then not sighted again.
i Still dont get your point. ROK was still coming back from injury in R1 2012 so Cunners stepped up for 1 week. ROK came back for R2 as the sub. Cunners had a shocking year last year as was lucky not to get delisted

Latest news is Parker will play therefore if cunningham is named and not the sub, would you roll with him?

tor01doc

Yes but I suspect he will miss.

Not too many missing so he is fringe ATM.

Grufflez

#20
Quote from: Baggers2012 on March 07, 2014, 04:01:43 PM
Quote from: Grufflez on March 07, 2014, 02:09:22 PM
Quote from: tabs on March 07, 2014, 01:46:25 PM
Quote from: Grufflez on March 07, 2014, 01:23:56 PM
Of course the Swans will play some rookies R1...they are versing the Giants.
The Swans wont play rookies just cause they are playing the Ginats R1. The only person that i can see playing is Derrickx as the 2nd ruck. I dont think Cunners or Towers will play unless parker misses out with his eye injury

Really? If not to give young blokes games against the bottom teams in which your team will thrash then when?..against top 4 contenders starting R1..that is crazy talk...much more likely to get named vs your GWS & St Kilda's than if Sydney were playing Hawthorn Fremantle and North Melbourne in the first 3 rounds..

Why on earth would they be resting players and giving 'young blokes games' in the first round??? That is just a ridiculous thought

OK no offensive..THEY ARE PLAYING GWS..like wtf people?...I am not saying they are going to rest 10 superstars...wow how can people misinterpret what i said lol.. if a FRINGE player is going to get games it will be those that are 100% wins..GWS/St Kilda/Melb..its not rocket science..unless GWS has meet with Hird and acquired a bag of pills labeled ''super Tic Tacs'' sydney could field half a team and win.Jesus can't believe i even had to explain this  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

C.Judd3Votes

Quote from: Grufflez on March 07, 2014, 05:34:22 PM
Quote from: Baggers2012 on March 07, 2014, 04:01:43 PM
Quote from: Grufflez on March 07, 2014, 02:09:22 PM
Quote from: tabs on March 07, 2014, 01:46:25 PM
Quote from: Grufflez on March 07, 2014, 01:23:56 PM
Of course the Swans will play some rookies R1...they are versing the Giants.
The Swans wont play rookies just cause they are playing the Ginats R1. The only person that i can see playing is Derrickx as the 2nd ruck. I dont think Cunners or Towers will play unless parker misses out with his eye injury

Really? If not to give young blokes games against the bottom teams in which your team will thrash then when?..against top 4 contenders starting R1..that is crazy talk...much more likely to get named vs your GWS & St Kilda's than if Sydney were playing Hawthorn Fremantle and North Melbourne in the first 3 rounds..

Why on earth would they be resting players and giving 'young blokes games' in the first round??? That is just a ridiculous thought

OK no offensive..THEY ARE PLAYING GWS..like wtf people?...I am not saying they are going to rest 10 superstars...wow how can people misinterpret what i said lol.. if a FRINGE player is going to get games it will be those that are 100% wins..GWS/St Kilda/Melb..its not rocket science..unless GWS has meet with Hird and acquired a bag of pills labeled ''super Tic Tacs'' sydney could field half a team and win.Jesus can't believe i even had to explain this  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
It's round 1 you idiot. Not rd 23

Grufflez

#22
Well go ahead and pick him..  ;D
BTW i never actually used the word ''resting''in my opening comment, It's not about resting a senior player R1 LOL..here we go again, Teams give games to younger players/fringe best 20 players when they can..vs GWS any round..they can...i think i am hitting my head against a brick wall. If Cunningham were to be named R1 i won't be picking him unless i see him getting regular games early on,i watched a Longmire press conference in which he talked about Cunningham's great preseason and said his nab games were a great 1st step...i repeat FIRST STEP...doesnt sound like a regular best 20 player to me..

As for the whole idiot comment, well i dare not face off with a keyboard warrior like you sir.  ;) ;) ;) ;)

Ziplock

Quote from: Grufflez on March 07, 2014, 05:34:22 PM
Quote from: Baggers2012 on March 07, 2014, 04:01:43 PM
Quote from: Grufflez on March 07, 2014, 02:09:22 PM
Quote from: tabs on March 07, 2014, 01:46:25 PM
Quote from: Grufflez on March 07, 2014, 01:23:56 PM
Of course the Swans will play some rookies R1...they are versing the Giants.
The Swans wont play rookies just cause they are playing the Ginats R1. The only person that i can see playing is Derrickx as the 2nd ruck. I dont think Cunners or Towers will play unless parker misses out with his eye injury

Really? If not to give young blokes games against the bottom teams in which your team will thrash then when?..against top 4 contenders starting R1..that is crazy talk...much more likely to get named vs your GWS & St Kilda's than if Sydney were playing Hawthorn Fremantle and North Melbourne in the first 3 rounds..

Why on earth would they be resting players and giving 'young blokes games' in the first round??? That is just a ridiculous thought

OK no offensive..THEY ARE PLAYING GWS..like wtf people?...I am not saying they are going to rest 10 superstars...wow how can people misinterpret what i said lol.. if a FRINGE player is going to get games it will be those that are 100% wins..GWS/St Kilda/Melb..its not rocket science..unless GWS has meet with Hird and acquired a bag of pills labeled ''super Tic Tacs'' sydney could field half a team and win.Jesus can't believe i even had to explain this  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Unless you've got older injury prone players, most teams won't be resting players in round one even against low ranked teams from last season. Resting is normally done coming up to finals, so players are at their best, or a couple of rounds in if someone's pulling up sore. Unless the swans have that players ended up a bit under the weather in their final practice match, I don't really see them doing any major resting- you don't want to risk resting in round 1 against expansion teams that could have a huge jump up the ladder at any time with their youth and in general player a weaker team in round 1 with a best 22 is probably advantageous for a team so they can shake out all the cobwebs from preseason while still securing a win. For instance, last year the Swans fielded pretty much their best team against the giants in round 1
http://www.fanfooty.com.au/game/matchscores.html?id=4405
and won the game by 29 points. If they had rested a bunch of players for the sake of resting them, it could have ended up causing a lot of pressure on the swans. Teams also love to smash the lower ranked teams for a % boost to help secure a better ladder position for finals.

I'm not saying the swans won't rest players, but they won't rest them simply for the sake of resting them- the only ones who mightn't play that would have against more competitive teams will be the ones carrying minor injuries, so for instance, if Parker's eye isn't 100%, he might sit it out.

Capper

Quote from: Grufflez on March 07, 2014, 05:34:22 PM
Quote from: Baggers2012 on March 07, 2014, 04:01:43 PM
Quote from: Grufflez on March 07, 2014, 02:09:22 PM
Quote from: tabs on March 07, 2014, 01:46:25 PM
Quote from: Grufflez on March 07, 2014, 01:23:56 PM
Of course the Swans will play some rookies R1...they are versing the Giants.
The Swans wont play rookies just cause they are playing the Ginats R1. The only person that i can see playing is Derrickx as the 2nd ruck. I dont think Cunners or Towers will play unless parker misses out with his eye injury

Really? If not to give young blokes games against the bottom teams in which your team will thrash then when?..against top 4 contenders starting R1..that is crazy talk...much more likely to get named vs your GWS & St Kilda's than if Sydney were playing Hawthorn Fremantle and North Melbourne in the first 3 rounds..

Why on earth would they be resting players and giving 'young blokes games' in the first round??? That is just a ridiculous thought

OK no offensive..THEY ARE PLAYING GWS..like wtf people?...I am not saying they are going to rest 10 superstars...wow how can people misinterpret what i said lol.. if a FRINGE player is going to get games it will be those that are 100% wins..GWS/St Kilda/Melb..its not rocket science..unless GWS has meet with Hird and acquired a bag of pills labeled ''super Tic Tacs'' sydney could field half a team and win.Jesus can't believe i even had to explain this  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
So are you saying that Horse will go up to someone like JPK or Jack and say "hey its round 1 ready for the season to start? Well guess what, you arent playing this week. " there is no way that would happen. How else

Gold coast arent going to rest GAJ because they are playing the Tigers
Hawks arent going to rest Roughie because they are playing the Lions

Later in the season fair enough but not round 1 champ

Quote from: Grufflez on March 07, 2014, 05:50:31 PM
Well go ahead and pick him..  ;D
BTW i never actually used the word ''resting''in my opening comment, It's not about resting a senior player R1 LOL..here we go again, Teams give games to younger players/fringe best 20 players when they can..vs GWS any round..they can...i think i am hitting my head against a brick wall. If Cunningham were to be named R1 i won't be picking him unless i see him getting regular games early on,i watched a Paul Roos press conference in which he talked about Cunningham's great preseason and said his nab games were a great 1st step...i repeat FIRST STEP...doesnt sound like a regular best 20 player to me..
Paul Roos isnt the coach though, he coaches the dees  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) did i roll my eyes enough??

i kniow you didnt mention "Rest" but if a player isnt injured and is in the best 22 and doesnt play to give a fringe player a game, then what do you call that??

Grufflez

#25
Quote from: Baggers2012 on March 07, 2014, 04:01:43 PM
Quote from: Grufflez on March 07, 2014, 02:09:22 PM
Quote from: tabs on March 07, 2014, 01:46:25 PM
Quote from: Grufflez on March 07, 2014, 01:23:56 PM
Of course the Swans will play some rookies R1...they are versing the Giants.
The Swans wont play rookies just cause they are playing the Ginats R1. The only person that i can see playing is Derrickx as the 2nd ruck. I dont think Cunners or Towers will play unless parker misses out with his eye injury

Really? If not to give young blokes games against the bottom teams in which your team will thrash then when?..against top 4 contenders starting R1..that is crazy talk...much more likely to get named vs your GWS & St Kilda's than if Sydney were playing Hawthorn Fremantle and North Melbourne in the first 3 rounds..

Why on earth would they be resting players and giving 'young blokes games' in the first round??? That is just a ridiculous thought

LOL about the Paul Roos thing...well i meant Longmire if none worked that out

This guy used the word ''Rest'' in response to my opening comments not i. Others have just grabbed hold of it and rolled with it.

Grufflez

#26
Quote from: tabs on March 07, 2014, 06:04:10 PM
Quote from: Grufflez on March 07, 2014, 05:34:22 PM
Quote from: Baggers2012 on March 07, 2014, 04:01:43 PM
Quote from: Grufflez on March 07, 2014, 02:09:22 PM
Quote from: tabs on March 07, 2014, 01:46:25 PM
Quote from: Grufflez on March 07, 2014, 01:23:56 PM
Of course the Swans will play some rookies R1...they are versing the Giants.
The Swans wont play rookies just cause they are playing the Ginats R1. The only person that i can see playing is Derrickx as the 2nd ruck. I dont think Cunners or Towers will play unless parker misses out with his eye injury

Really? If not to give young blokes games against the bottom teams in which your team will thrash then when?..against top 4 contenders starting R1..that is crazy talk...much more likely to get named vs your GWS & St Kilda's than if Sydney were playing Hawthorn Fremantle and North Melbourne in the first 3 rounds..

Why on earth would they be resting players and giving 'young blokes games' in the first round??? That is just a ridiculous thought

OK no offensive..THEY ARE PLAYING GWS..like wtf people?...I am not saying they are going to rest 10 superstars...wow how can people misinterpret what i said lol.. if a FRINGE player is going to get games it will be those that are 100% wins..GWS/St Kilda/Melb..its not rocket science..unless GWS has meet with Hird and acquired a bag of pills labeled ''super Tic Tacs'' sydney could field half a team and win.Jesus can't believe i even had to explain this  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
So are you saying that Horse will go up to someone like JPK or Jack and say "hey its round 1 ready for the season to start? Well guess what, you arent playing this week. " there is no way that would happen. How else

Gold coast arent going to rest GAJ because they are playing the Tigers
Hawks arent going to rest Roughie because they are playing the Lions

Later in the season fair enough but not round 1 champ

Quote from: Grufflez on March 07, 2014, 05:50:31 PM
Well go ahead and pick him..  ;D
BTW i never actually used the word ''resting''in my opening comment, It's not about resting a senior player R1 LOL..here we go again, Teams give games to younger players/fringe best 20 players when they can..vs GWS any round..they can...i think i am hitting my head against a brick wall. If Cunningham were to be named R1 i won't be picking him unless i see him getting regular games early on,i watched a Paul Roos press conference in which he talked about Cunningham's great preseason and said his nab games were a great 1st step...i repeat FIRST STEP...doesnt sound like a regular best 20 player to me..
Paul Roos isnt the coach though, he coaches the dees  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) did i roll my eyes enough??

i kniow you didnt mention "Rest" but if a player isnt injured and is in the best 22 and doesnt play to give a fringe player a game, then what do you call that??

I fixed my Roos typo and it now says Longmire in case no one could figure that out..and lightin up on people using emotes mate its a little rolling eyes face clicked a few extra times..people really getting their feathers ruffled is kind of funny.
And i call it taking the opportunity to get games into young players when possible..the resting of someone at the fringe players inclusion may be the inevitable result it is most certainly not the intended purpose.
Question what would it say to all of you if Cunningham were to be named R1 and not R2 or named R1 & R2 then out for a few games? he is either in their best 22 or not at some point fringe players/rookies need to be given a chance.I'd suggest that its mainly when injuries occur to others or when they vs rubbish teams.The round 1 strong team point is valid of course..but its GWS maybe i am seriously underestimating them ..meh.

quinny88

Grufflez I dont think Sydney will be sitting back saying "we got the easy beats GWS this week lets play some kids"

Its Rd 1 of a new season, no one has any idea how GWS will come out this year. No game is a certainty and if the Sydney players share the same cocky attitude that you have then they are likely to get rolled.
They will play their best side available and throw everything at GWS dont worry about that

Ringo

Just be careful guys this thread is starting to deteriorate a little. - just keep to the facts and not resort to name calling please.  Would hate to see you have a holiday because of it so general warning bow issued,

cortez

So with only a couple of days till season starts are people Getting on this kid as a m10? Great preseason and great end to last year plus is almost certain to line up round 1. I'm on him!