Nic Nat, time is running out..

Judd Magic · March 18, 2014, 11:14:32 PM

Way too risky starting NicNat IMO.

I just don't trust that groin of his, I think it will flare up again at some stage.

Best scenario is to see how he goes and then bring him in later as an upgrade.

You'd be kicking yourself starting NicNat only for his groin injury to flare up around bye time and then having to trade him out.

I'm going to at least give him 10 games first before I even think about upgrading Sandilands to him.

Leuenburger and Sandilands ruck combo for me at the moment.

auscoyote · March 18, 2014, 11:16:14 PM

Totally agree Wato,
I'm taking the punt too and i dont expect to much early on. The only worry i have is maybe having to put up with some sub NicNat scores and then the OP flairs up again. I dont think anyone one doubts his talent and ability to get back to fitness reasonably quickly. He is an outstanding athlete that can rip the game apart and score big, SC loves him. Maybe someone who knows more about OP can put my mind at ease. For my SC team but more so for the Eagles sake and footy in general i really hope everything goes according to plan. :)

_wato · March 18, 2014, 11:26:00 PM

Risk v Reward, is the way you win SC.
You don't win it by playing it safe. Naitanui is a big risk but it could pay off and leave you miles in front of the competition.

I would rather take a player who is subject to injury but can score and be a top 3 scorer over someone like Leuey who may only be top 5/10 and average 100. As someone stated earlier rucks are so hard to pick because nobody can state clearly who will finish top 2. You just have to go with your gut.

Aus, I think every ruck man has very chance of being injured or scoring poorly - I mean surely Cox is the only big man that has ever been durable?
Minson is yet to show he can back up last year, was a fantasy dud prior to this year, Goldy has been good but only the last 3-4 years, Leuey has had injury problems (last year), Maric has plenty of issues, Jacobs is not a top 10 scorer, struggles around the ground, Mcevoy is yet to show at Hawthorn, Mcintosh/Sandilands/Kreuzer all plagued by injuries, I could go on.

Naitanui would be one of the pick of that bunch. He is worth the risk.

SydneyRox · March 19, 2014, 12:04:41 AM

agree wato.... i have been off him all PS, but living in WA, he is talked about so much, he is probs 85%, but think he is worth the risk

Pokerface · March 19, 2014, 12:30:06 AM

I am so tempted at the price, but a big factor for me is the lack of viable R3/R4s if when something happens to nic nat or sandi. Hmmm, decisions.

SydneyRox · March 19, 2014, 12:34:28 AM

Quote from: Pokerface on March 19, 2014, 12:30:06 AM
I am so tempted at the price, but a big factor for me is the lack of viable R3/R4s if when something happens to nic nat or sandi. Hmmm, decisions.

I was of the same opinion until sandi came out and dominated. Not as fragile, he is gonna make the byes!!

eaglesman · March 19, 2014, 01:00:57 AM

i could not possibly pick nic nat from the eagles scratch match i went and watched

but now all these reports have me thinking again ... sandi represents no risk to my side imo .. not sure

Speculator · March 19, 2014, 03:29:40 PM

Quote from: _wato on March 18, 2014, 11:26:00 PM
Risk v Reward, is the way you win SC.
You don't win it by playing it safe. Naitanui is a big risk but it could pay off and leave you miles in front of the competition.

I would rather take a player who is subject to injury but can score and be a top 3 scorer over someone like Leuey who may only be top 5/10 and average 100. As someone stated earlier rucks are so hard to pick because nobody can state clearly who will finish top 2. You just have to go with your gut.

Aus, I think every ruck man has very chance of being injured or scoring poorly - I mean surely Cox is the only big man that has ever been durable?
Minson is yet to show he can back up last year, was a fantasy dud prior to this year, Goldy has been good but only the last 3-4 years, Leuey has had injury problems (last year), Maric has plenty of issues, Jacobs is not a top 10 scorer, struggles around the ground, Mcevoy is yet to show at Hawthorn, Mcintosh/Sandilands/Kreuzer all plagued by injuries, I could go on.

Naitanui would be one of the pick of that bunch. He is worth the risk.

I'm pretty sure the winner of supercoach won't have naitanui in round 1. He gets all his points from hit outs to advantage and yet he's been playing as a midfielder with limited ruck time in the intra club matches he's played. If he'd had a full preseason he'd be my first picked but he burnt me last year because he was underdone and the writing is on the wall again.

felsty · March 19, 2014, 03:44:25 PM

Quote from: Speculator on March 19, 2014, 03:29:40 PM
Quote from: _wato on March 18, 2014, 11:26:00 PM
Risk v Reward, is the way you win SC.
You don't win it by playing it safe. Naitanui is a big risk but it could pay off and leave you miles in front of the competition.

I would rather take a player who is subject to injury but can score and be a top 3 scorer over someone like Leuey who may only be top 5/10 and average 100. As someone stated earlier rucks are so hard to pick because nobody can state clearly who will finish top 2. You just have to go with your gut.

Aus, I think every ruck man has very chance of being injured or scoring poorly - I mean surely Cox is the only big man that has ever been durable?
Minson is yet to show he can back up last year, was a fantasy dud prior to this year, Goldy has been good but only the last 3-4 years, Leuey has had injury problems (last year), Maric has plenty of issues, Jacobs is not a top 10 scorer, struggles around the ground, Mcevoy is yet to show at Hawthorn, Mcintosh/Sandilands/Kreuzer all plagued by injuries, I could go on.

Naitanui would be one of the pick of that bunch. He is worth the risk.

I'm pretty sure the winner of supercoach won't have naitanui in round 1. He gets all his points from hit outs to advantage and yet he's been playing as a midfielder with limited ruck time in the intra club matches he's played. If he'd had a full preseason he'd be my first picked but he burnt me last year because he was underdone and the writing is on the wall again.

I would say its his contested ball more than anything that get the majority of his points for him

Speculator · March 19, 2014, 06:07:11 PM

The guy can score a hundred from 10 possessions. He needs the taps as well to do this. We will see I guess.

BigMac_93 · March 19, 2014, 06:28:48 PM

Quote from: Judd Magic on March 18, 2014, 11:14:32 PM
Way too risky starting NicNat IMO.

I just don't trust that groin of his, I think it will flare up again at some stage.

Best scenario is to see how he goes and then bring him in later as an upgrade.

You'd be kicking yourself starting NicNat only for his groin injury to flare up around bye time and then having to trade him out.

I'm going to at least give him 10 games first before I even think about upgrading Sandilands to him.

Leuenburger and Sandilands ruck combo for me at the moment.

100% spot on

Marstar · March 20, 2014, 01:56:04 AM

Quote from: BigMac_93 on March 19, 2014, 06:28:48 PM
Quote from: Judd Magic on March 18, 2014, 11:14:32 PM
Way too risky starting NicNat IMO.

I just don't trust that groin of his, I think it will flare up again at some stage.

Best scenario is to see how he goes and then bring him in later as an upgrade.

You'd be kicking yourself starting NicNat only for his groin injury to flare up around bye time and then having to trade him out.

I'm going to at least give him 10 games first before I even think about upgrading Sandilands to him.

Leuenburger and Sandilands ruck combo for me at the moment.

100% spot on

If you think his groin will flare up, and you wait 10 games for it to get there, then you will think about buying him just before it happens in/around bye rounds? ???

I think I'll bank the 1000+ points up until the byes and 'if' he deteriorates, then I'll move him sideways into the other inform ruck man of the season.

Judd Magic · March 20, 2014, 03:57:46 AM

Nah laser brain I meant that I'll wait till at least round 10 as that will give me a good indication on whether or not NicNat is over his groin injury and there are no signs of it. If there isn't I'll jump on.

But hey you go ahead and start him and watch him get off to a slow start, subbed off a few times, go down in value price wise and even the possibility of his groin injury flaring up again.

Good luck champ! 8)

Quote from: Marstar on March 20, 2014, 01:56:04 AM
Quote from: BigMac_93 on March 19, 2014, 06:28:48 PM
Quote from: Judd Magic on March 18, 2014, 11:14:32 PM
Way too risky starting NicNat IMO.

I just don't trust that groin of his, I think it will flare up again at some stage.

Best scenario is to see how he goes and then bring him in later as an upgrade.

You'd be kicking yourself starting NicNat only for his groin injury to flare up around bye time and then having to trade him out.

I'm going to at least give him 10 games first before I even think about upgrading Sandilands to him.

Leuenburger and Sandilands ruck combo for me at the moment.

100% spot on

If you think his groin will flare up, and you wait 10 games for it to get there, then you will think about buying him just before it happens in/around bye rounds? ???

I think I'll bank the 1000+ points up until the byes and 'if' he deteriorates, then I'll move him sideways into the other inform ruck man of the season.