Buddy or Titchell?

Started by tor01doc, February 25, 2014, 11:20:58 PM

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tor01doc

Obviously Buddy has been a perennial SC favorite but at a new club his scoring potential is unknown.

Mitchell is up and coming, DPP, has been a revelation, plays mid which is fantasy friendly and is cheaper.

Which one.

Any other suggestions welcome and don't worry about who is in my team (apart from Missy) as it changes hourly anyway.

If the cheers thingy was still active I would cheer for any sensible input.

Bully

I'm picking Mitchell for the above stated reasons, Buddy to me is a wait and see, he had a really poor finals series and it's still unknown how he'll adapt the the Swans game plan. With Tippett & Sam Reid in the side it's anyone's guess as to how much focus he'll be given, and the Swans play a tight and congested brand of football. If after 2 weeks it looks like Buddy is ready to explode, I'll make the switch but I'm happy enough to sit on the sidelines in the meantime.

sween4

Any interest on Parker at a similar price? Franklin probably has the higher ceiling going by what he has done in the past, and has the potential to go on a pretty crazy run with a pretty good draw to start the season. But yeah the unknown has me worried. Just would hate to miss out on Franklin if he starts putting up an average of 110-115 again.

quinny88

Over 460k for a guy thats played 14 games? not for me. Could pay off, but a massive risk

tor01doc

3 sensible replies - thanks.

Parker v Mitchell - I just think Mitchell's trajectory will be more upwards than Parker's.

Very close between the 3 Swans I guess.

I will end up going with my fat hairy gut.

Bully

Quote from: quinny88 on February 25, 2014, 11:46:40 PM
Over 460k for a guy thats played 14 games? not for me. Could pay off, but a massive risk

On the contrary, I think there's little risk he'll lose money. I can't see him attracting a tag and physically he's ready to match it with anyone in the league. Once again, I draw people to the fact that Sydney have an amazing draw leading up to the byes, tailored made for Mitchell. Franklin may also be the beneficiary of a soft draw but he's still a mystery in a Swans outfit.

Grufflez

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Quote from: tor01doc on February 25, 2014, 11:50:11 PM
3 sensible replies - thanks.

Parker v Mitchell - I just think Mitchell's trajectory will be more upwards than Parker's.

Very close between the 3 Swans I guess.

I will end up going with my fat hairy gut.

Shave that shower man,doges be lovin the smoothness ;)

Apparently Buddy has hit the ground running and his preseason attitude/work ethic has impressed and the swans..to me a blokes state of mind is of huge importance, Don't like players who are unhappy at a club or just turning up to work each week for their paycheck..i look for enthusiasm !

quinny88

Quote from: Bully on February 25, 2014, 11:54:13 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on February 25, 2014, 11:46:40 PM
Over 460k for a guy thats played 14 games? not for me. Could pay off, but a massive risk

On the contrary, I think there's little risk he'll lose money. I can't see him attracting a tag and physically he's ready to match it with anyone in the league. Once again, I draw people to the fact that Sydney have an amazing draw leading up to the byes, tailored made for Mitchell. Franklin may also be the beneficiary of a soft draw but he's still a mystery in a Swans outfit.

Probably not but your starting premiums are there for keeps. Buddy far more likely to average the 100+ you would want from your forward premiums

sween4

I feel all of them will probably start the season pretty well, its just when the draw starts to get a little tougher who will score the best.

Bully

Quote from: quinny88 on February 25, 2014, 11:57:44 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 25, 2014, 11:54:13 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on February 25, 2014, 11:46:40 PM
Over 460k for a guy thats played 14 games? not for me. Could pay off, but a massive risk

On the contrary, I think there's little risk he'll lose money. I can't see him attracting a tag and physically he's ready to match it with anyone in the league. Once again, I draw people to the fact that Sydney have an amazing draw leading up to the byes, tailored made for Mitchell. Franklin may also be the beneficiary of a soft draw but he's still a mystery in a Swans outfit.

Probably not but your starting premiums are there for keeps. Buddy far more likely to average the 100+ you would want from your forward premiums

With Buddy it's a wait and see approach, he'd also have to show something in the preseason for me to even consider at this stage. Mitchell just scored a 150 against GWS, Sydney play them in round 1. Most of his other opponents leading into the byes are also soft targets, certainly weak enough to suggest Mitchell can feasibly average 100 leading into the byes. If he drops off later I'll weigh things up, the MPP is also a selling point, swinging him back to the mids is also an option.

Grufflez

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The Buddy situation reminds me of the Ablett one (to some degree) in that everyone is so sceptical about Buddy and how he will preform at a new club,What people need to remember is that Buddy was ''out of favour'' at the Hawks last year because they knew all year he was leaving, Clarkson played him out of position at times and Buddy had a lot on his mind, these things count!
Adapting to the swans game plan is a small concern but don't champions always find a way???
Do you not rate buddy that highly is the question.

Premium Players Preseason efforts count for nought.

Bully

I certainly rate Buddy but I'm happy to wait and see how he goes. He's now the 10 million dollar man, that's a hell of a lot of baggage to be carrying around. The pressure will be immense, particularly with the club's future on the line.

RaisyDaisy

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I think once we see Buddy play on Thursday night it will start to influence peoples decision on him (Although 1 NAB game shouldn't)

Its a shame Tipett isn't playing, because he has the potential to take a lot of opportunities from Bud and I would really like to see how they go together

At Hawthorn Bud was the man, Roughy would be the second option but he would spend time all around the ground, but now Bud has Tipett who is the go to man just as much as he is.

I see Buddy playing up the ground more and Tipett playing deep, but how they ultimately move forward and use these two is going to have a fair ay on his SC scoring. Not entirely sure we can use his Hawthorn history, who knows, Bud might go on to only average 90 or he could go huge.

As of today I have both Buddy and Titch in my team, but if I had to make a call right now, I would keep Titch

auscoyote

I was deciding between the three as well, originally had Buddy/TMitch but now just have buddy. Im waiting to see the buddy playbook but like stated above i think he will play up the ground. He will have a point to prove to show he's worth the $$$$ and he will want to put his stamp on his new city. Still tempted to swap to Mitch though :-\

And just to throw another one in the mix, all be it with a harder draw but due for some more mid time. Son Son, Elite kick, training the house down and very vocal leading the way out on track
Yes, I was in Freo a couple of times in the preseason and stopped in to see how the purple mob were going  :-[

GCSkiwi

Buddy had an appalling year by his standards last year - and that I think is key, his standard is usually much higher than that. He's been a (the) top forward for years, yes he's now in a new team but he's still a classy player. The contract talks year seems to kill players - Ablett dropped 10 points in his last season at Geelong, Cloke dropped 17 points in 2012 with Collingwood. They bounce back. You cannot substitute his experience and freakish talent for anything. For that price, lock in buddy. All 3 are a risk, biggest upside is clearly buddy at his proven best.