Swan and Ablett

[Power16]

I'm thinking that there willl be many people starting without either one or both of these guys for round 2. Just wondering what everyone's thinking.

Swan for me is hard to select when I have Pendles and Beams and I don't plan on changing that. Ablett I am still 50/50 on whether I'll start with him or not.

Thoughts?

[Mr.Craig]

Undecided.

It depends on how much I'll need to spread my team if certain cheap options fall through.

[henry]

Just going ablett, Swan will be an upgrade target for me. Have Pendles and Beams who are both good back up captaincy options should Gaz have a poor stretch or get injured.

[Ricochet]

Just Ablett for me at this stage. Too many underpriced proven premos in the midfield this year to spend too much money in there.

[Jukes]

Why are people picking players who are 99% guaranteed to lose points/money when there are players like Stants, Watto, Rocky, Beamsy, Cotch and Murph who are 99% (alright, maybe 90%) guaranteed to gain points/money. We need a Fantasy Coaching for Dummies book :P it's just silly from a moneyball perspective

Have not had either in my team all pre-season and do not plan to touch them with a 10 foot pole before round 1.

[Ricochet]

Because Ablett is kind of underpriced and you still need a solid captain option. Ablett was averaging 123 up until the last month where he battled with a niggling injury. Priced at only 114

[dirkdiggler]

Why are people picking players who are 99% guaranteed to lose points/money when there are players like Stants, Watto, Rocky, Beamsy, Cotch and Murph who are 99% (alright, maybe 90%) guaranteed to gain points/money. We need a Fantasy Coaching for Dummies book :P it's just silly from a moneyball perspective

Have not had either in my team all pre-season and do not plan to touch them with a 10 foot pole before round 1.

in RDT I think you probably have to start with one of them...

[jvalles69]

Why are people picking players who are 99% guaranteed to lose points/money when there are players like Stants, Watto, Rocky, Beamsy, Cotch and Murph who are 99% (alright, maybe 90%) guaranteed to gain points/money. We need a Fantasy Coaching for Dummies book :P it's just silly from a moneyball perspective

Have not had either in my team all pre-season and do not plan to touch them with a 10 foot pole before round 1.

in RDT I think you probably have to start with one of them...

Def in RDT otherwise you're burning trades to get them in at some stage.

Also depends on what your goal is in Fantasy.  I think if you are going for overall finish then you need one or even two fo these guys otherwise you will be a bit behind the eightball especially with unlimited trades.  To be honest my original team didn't have Swan, Ablett or Stevie J (not considering him based on missing games and overall wanting to punch my screen), but the prob I had was who to captain, so going in with one of Swan or Ablett (currently Swan) just to set my permacap, if I think that I will cap anyone else in rd1 or rd2 then might leave them out.  I am going for league win this year as there is a fair bit of money in our comp so I think its easier not to consider them till their price drops (if it drops).

[Red Dirtie]

both locked and loaded!

Round 1

C -Swan = loves playing against Freo
V- Ablett = will smash Tigers

and so on vice versa!

Never have to worry about Captain choice  ;)

[RookieDTer]

Don't have either - have Pendles instead.

[Artax]

Pendles & Ablett for me. Value picks with Watson, Beams, Murphy & Daisy.

[Jukes]

Because Ablett is kind of underpriced and you still need a solid captain option. Ablett was averaging 123 up until the last month where he battled with a niggling injury. Priced at only 114

That's implying last season was once in a lifetime and he'll never get injured again. Martin and Koloj coming in combined with the improvement of Swallow, Bennell, Cannon and Jaeger, he's a goner.

Why are people picking players who are 99% guaranteed to lose points/money when there are players like Stants, Watto, Rocky, Beamsy, Cotch and Murph who are 99% (alright, maybe 90%) guaranteed to gain points/money. We need a Fantasy Coaching for Dummies book :P it's just silly from a moneyball perspective

Have not had either in my team all pre-season and do not plan to touch them with a 10 foot pole before round 1.

in RDT I think you probably have to start with one of them...

Agree with this to an extent

[powersuperkents]

I'm starting gaj to be safe, but some advice, remember Swan, Stevie J & Gaj are each roughly around 5% of your salary cap. They will perform well but they most likely will slightly drop in performance (it's inevitable they'll lose value). So why pick more than one to start off with when there are so many young and prospective/underpriced midfielders this season (more than any other season) and due to trading regulations so little risk (less than any other season). If you take a punt on one the worst thing that could happen is you swap him for another.

Ellis, Cotchin, Libby, Steven, Rocky, Scooter, Fyfe, Watson, Stanton, Mitchell (sub him into the forwards later), Murphy, Greene, Boak and many more, if you back out after the first round you have unlimited trades. I think Gaj would be ideal to start with rather than Swan this season. Cheaper and less competition in the midfield (for now that is)

[Ricochet]

Because Ablett is kind of underpriced and you still need a solid captain option. Ablett was averaging 123 up until the last month where he battled with a niggling injury. Priced at only 114

That's implying last season was once in a lifetime and he'll never get injured again. Martin and Koloj coming in combined with the improvement of Swallow, Bennell, Cannon and Jaeger, he's a goner.

So...

Stants, Watto, Rocky, Beamsy, Cotch and Murph

2013s were once in a lifetime and they won't get injured again

[pommyadam]

I'm not planning to start with either of them
taking last year as an example, Swanny (like Jelwood) didn't really get going till after the byes, so I'm looking for cash generation intially, and then picking them up as they bottom out (they'll hit a bad patch and lose value at some point)

depends what you're going for too:
if you're going for overall, then you'll probably need one of them, just for a safe captain option each week

BUT if you're going for league, then there's not much point early on, just take some losses and focus on cash-generation (so like a midline of Cotchin, Watson, Beams, Murphy, Thomas, rooks) which will make a lot of cash, and then you can choose when to get them in - and then you'll hopefully have a premo mid line by round 12-15