Sydney Stars vs Bombers Boys

Started by H1bb3i2d, February 16, 2014, 09:50:19 PM

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H1bb3i2d

As it stands, I don't have the money for both McVeigh & Watson, both of which will be in my final team no doubt as top 6/8 scorers.

Kennedy: started last year on fire and we all know how well he was in 2012, you can't hit 120 without being good enough to get back to 115+. Possibly carried a groin issue that hampered his kicking last year, can he return? Cotchin is the other option in my price range, but the round 8 bye probably has him off my list unfortunately.

Hibberd: with Suckling, Mitchell and Hurn in my team, I see him as a better alternative to Simpson. Solid scorer, price tag reflects his worth, nothing more or less.

Both of these guys I see as fringe top 10/12 scorers by seasons end, so not the worst D5/6 and M7/8 going around, and the round 10 bye would hopefully make up for any potential lost points over the season by hopefully preventing an otherwise round 8/9 donut.

Thoughts very much appreciated!

Bully

Watson has a much tougher draw, it's the main reason I chose to steer well clear.

kilbluff1985

Quote from: Bully on February 16, 2014, 09:52:04 PM
Watson has a much tougher draw, it's the main reason I chose to steer well clear.

i don't see how it will affect him badly will only try harder and teams usually tag Stanton first

H1bb3i2d

Players such as Watson, Pendlebury etc. generally play well regardless, easy draws often come associated with player management etc. so they seem to cancel out, just my opinion, so I don't read heaps into draws

Vinny

Yeah you shouldn't have to read into draws with super premos, that's why they are super premos. Can rape any team, haha.

Bully

Quote from: kilbluff1985 on February 16, 2014, 09:54:16 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 16, 2014, 09:52:04 PM
Watson has a much tougher draw, it's the main reason I chose to steer well clear.

i don't see how it will affect him badly will only try harder and teams usually tag Stanton first

He's got Freo, Hawthorn & Carlton in the first 4 rounds so he may start slowly. Crowley kept him to 67 points last year and his 3 game rolling average against Carlton is 92. I'd say the likelihood of him losing money in the early stages is pretty high.



H1bb3i2d

Quote from: Bully on February 16, 2014, 10:13:24 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on February 16, 2014, 09:54:16 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 16, 2014, 09:52:04 PM
Watson has a much tougher draw, it's the main reason I chose to steer well clear.

i don't see how it will affect him badly will only try harder and teams usually tag Stanton first

He's got Freo, Hawthorn & Carlton in the first 4 rounds so he may start slowly. Crowley kept him to 67 points last year and his 3 game rolling average against Carlton is 92. I'd say the likelihood of him losing money in the early stages is pretty high.

It's also hard to see McVeigh not losing money, too...

Bully

Quote from: H1bb3i2d on February 16, 2014, 10:20:26 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 16, 2014, 10:13:24 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on February 16, 2014, 09:54:16 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 16, 2014, 09:52:04 PM
Watson has a much tougher draw, it's the main reason I chose to steer well clear.

i don't see how it will affect him badly will only try harder and teams usually tag Stanton first

He's got Freo, Hawthorn & Carlton in the first 4 rounds so he may start slowly. Crowley kept him to 67 points last year and his 3 game rolling average against Carlton is 92. I'd say the likelihood of him losing money in the early stages is pretty high.

It's also hard to see McVeigh not losing money, too...

McVeigh will almost certainly lose money but I don't think it will be early in the season.

Dayze

Jobes lowest score of the season was against Gws from memory.
His draw won't bother him.
Easily the safest player and choice of these 4.
Will b a top 8 mid guaranteed IMO

Bully

Quote from: Dayze on February 16, 2014, 10:50:22 PM
Jobes lowest score of the season was against Gws from memory.
His draw won't bother him.
Easily the safest player and choice of these 4.
Will b a top 8 mid guaranteed IMO

He's a good player no doubt, but I favour a Kennedy & McVeigh combo given the draws of both Essendon & Sydney. There maybe a good argument for Watson over Kennedy but McVeigh wins over Hibberd every day of the week.

It's just my two cents, but I wouldn't be surprised to see JPK with more points than Jobe heading into the byes. With Sydney's soft draw and JPK's tendency to start strongly, I think he'll be up around the 115-120 mark.


Dayze

U have been keen on JPK bully.
If it comes off mate ill give u props. U know how I feel about him.
Personally im keeping very safe in the midfield and Jobe to me is safe as houses.

In saying that id love to start McVeigh. Just really need that extra cash that hurn saves me...

Bully

Quote from: Dayze on February 17, 2014, 12:38:10 AM
U have been keen on JPK bully.
If it comes off mate ill give u props. U know how I feel about him.
Personally im keeping very safe in the midfield and Jobe to me is safe as houses.

In saying that id love to start McVeigh. Just really need that extra cash that hurn saves me...

I hear what you're saying, I've had Jobe 2 years running but I've just got a gut feeling about Kennedy this year, in fact I've got a gut feeling about Sydney. At the moment I've got McVeigh, Kennedy, Franklin & Parker on the books and I expect all 4 to bolt out of the blocks. By all reports, JPK is in tip top condition with no groin issues, if he can repeat his 120 average over the first 8 weeks (similar to 2012 & 2013) then he's served his purpose, that's the plan anyway.

Dayze

Good luck to u bud, if ur right u can serve me a big fat- I told u so.
Should b nice and unique.

I got a good feeling on cotch. rnd 8 bye should keep him nice and unique.

lets hope we are both right as it looks like we are both leaving out Pendles...
makes me nervous even mentioning it

Grufflez

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Quote from: Bully on February 16, 2014, 09:52:04 PM
Watson has a much tougher draw, it's the main reason I chose to steer well clear.

Watson handled last year well, is slightly underpriced and is now 29yo! he will be giving his all over the next 2 years bank on it.
ASADA is a worry for everything Essendon.

Also believe Sydney will finish first or second but what if JPK keeps handballing to prevent a return of those groin injuries?..which he said has been a long standing problem.

Bully

Quote from: Grufflez on February 17, 2014, 02:28:08 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 16, 2014, 09:52:04 PM
Watson has a much tougher draw, it's the main reason I chose to steer well clear.

Watson handled last year well, is slightly underpriced and is now 29yo! he will be giving his all over the next 2 years bank on it.
ASADA is a worry for everything Essendon.

Also believe Sydney will finish first or second but what if JPK keeps handballing to prevent a return of those groin injuries?..which he said has been a long standing problem.

The last two years JPK has averaged 120+ over the first 8 games, that is all that concerns me at this stage. I'm prepared to trade him in round 9 & 10 to get Pendlebury, and cover the for the bye. Some have argued that trading a premium is a wasted trade but I beg to differ. The extra money is going towards another keeper in Parker, a player who I believe will average 95+ by season's end.

As for Watson, great player and he was on my short list, but ultimately he's more expensive than JPK and has a tougher draw. He's also only ever had 1 standout season, the year he won the Brownlow, so I don't think he'll just ease into a 120 average like many are suggesting.