Risky Ruck Lottery

Started by DCAK, February 12, 2014, 09:08:46 PM

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DCAK

I plan on going cheap, then upgrading once the cheap options a) rise in value or b) bomb out.

aussied

Grundy will be top 5 by years end, however not much value to gain, id rather spend less judge options then choose my prem ruck by round 4/6.

Hmac am still deciding on we will have to see next week when he plays round 2. but if solid on playing out the games in the nab will be most to gain in cash wise.

Daw if playing nab cup we will have to wait and see those monster scores first 5 games last year could be something which may surprise us all.

Vardy will be playing forward more then ruck this year and looks abit shaky might take him some time to warm up to the season. i recon next year he will be a lock for me.

Good luck for the season

Baggers2012

Grundy top 5!?!?!? Off the top of my head I expect all of the following to average more than grundy. Minson, godly, NicNat, cox, Kruezer, Leuey, Jacobs, Ryder, bellchambers, Sandi, Clarke, HMac, Mummy, McEvoy, Hale, Lobbe, Maric, & Pyke. That's 18, he's no chance of top 5

Bully

Quote from: Baggers2012 on February 12, 2014, 09:29:50 PM
Grundy top 5!?!?!? Off the top of my head I expect all of the following to average more than grundy. Minson, godly, NicNat, cox, Kruezer, Leuey, Jacobs, Ryder, bellchambers, Sandi, Clarke, HMac, Mummy, McEvoy, Hale, Lobbe, Maric, & Pyke. That's 18, he's no chance of top 5

I doubt a second year ruck has ever achieved such a feat, it would be a once in a generation event.

Grazz

Quote from: Baggers2012 on February 12, 2014, 09:29:50 PM
Grundy top 5!?!?!? Off the top of my head I expect all of the following to average more than grundy. Minson, godly, NicNat, cox, Kruezer, Leuey, Jacobs, Ryder, bellchambers, Sandi, Clarke, HMac, Mummy, McEvoy, Hale, Lobbe, Maric, & Pyke. That's 18, he's no chance of top 5

What he said.

aussied

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Quote from: aussied on February 12, 2014, 09:17:46 PM
Grundy will be top 5 by years end, however not much value to gain, id rather spend less judge options then choose my prem ruck by round 4/6.

Hmac am still deciding on we will have to see next week when he plays round 2. but if solid on playing out the games in the nab will be most to gain in cash wise.

Daw if playing nab cup we will have to wait and see those monster scores first 5 games last year could be something which may surprise us all.

Vardy will be playing forward more then ruck this year and looks abit shaky might take him some time to warm up to the season. i recon next year he will be a lock for me.

Good luck for the season

hahaha me being distracted by watching the game, was thinking of goldstein hahah Ignore my stupidity

ubeaut

Grundy out of that lot. May yet go with him Myself.

GCSkiwi

Go for the most expensive (Gundy?). They're all a risk, no one can tell you who's going to fly and who's going to fail, if you pick an expensive one then you can downgrade to on of the others if they don't pan out in the first couple of games.

Grufflez

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There is a difference between Injury risk and Scoring risk.
Ballsy move to start with 2 injury prone ruck players imo,Chris Scott has said that H-Mac will be managed (which shouldn't come as a surprise) id guess 12-15 games..guy has played 8 games in 3 years..no risks will be taken.

I voted Gundy but don't expect much from him id be happy with an average of 80 ish

GCSkiwi

Quote from: Grufflez on February 13, 2014, 08:57:57 AM
The is a difference between Injury risk and Scoring risk.
Ballsy move to start with 2 injury prone players imo,Chris Scott has said that H-Mac will be managed (which shouldn't come as a surprise) id guess 12-15 games..guy has played 8 games in 3 years..no risks will be taken.

I voted Gundy but don't expect much from him id be happy with an average of 80 ish

Very true but assuming they play a minimum of 3 games I'd rather have an injury risk player who can score tons but goes down in 6-7 games than a guy consistently on the park scoring 50. Eg if HMac plays the opening 7 rounds until the cats bye and averages 95-105 his price climbs dramatically. Same with Sandi. However Chris Scott said that he's basically looking to get a season from HMac and Simpson combined, so I'd be surprised if HMac played 7 games straight.

Grufflez

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Quote from: GCSkiwi on February 13, 2014, 09:07:44 AM
Quote from: Grufflez on February 13, 2014, 08:57:57 AM
The is a difference between Injury risk and Scoring risk.
Ballsy move to start with 2 injury prone players imo,Chris Scott has said that H-Mac will be managed (which shouldn't come as a surprise) id guess 12-15 games..guy has played 8 games in 3 years..no risks will be taken.

I voted Gundy but don't expect much from him id be happy with an average of 80 ish

Very true but assuming they play a minimum of 3 games I'd rather have an injury risk player who can score tons but goes down in 6-7 games than a guy consistently on the park scoring 50. Eg if HMac plays the opening 7 rounds until the cats bye and averages 95-105 his price climbs dramatically. Same with Sandi. However Chris Scott said that he's basically looking to get a season from HMac and Simpson combined, so I'd be surprised if HMac played 7 games straight.

Agree but can H-mac string those games together..and i think his ruck load will be well shared so i can't see him stringing those 6-7 games together with scores of 95-105..check footy wire stats but don't think H-mac has ever gone 100+ in however many games he has managed for that season.
I am having the same trouble trying to figure out if Sandilands can string together 7 or 8 games but his ceiling is much higher and thus his chance of a quick price increase higher imo.
Guess its a case of hope for the best plan for the worst? or play it safe.

DCAK

What I read into what Chris Scott said is that Dawson Simpson & HMac may be a week on - week off proposition, so if you're looking for a sharp, short term price increase clearly that won't happen, ie could take HMac 6 weeks to play 3 games.

Ricochet

I wouldn't expect them to rest HMac early on though. More so in the second half of the year

GCSkiwi

Quote from: Grufflez on February 13, 2014, 09:25:14 AM
Agree but can H-mac string those games together..and i think his ruck load will be well shared so i can't see him stringing those 6-7 games together with scores of 95-105..check footy wire stats but don't think H-mac has ever gone 100+ in however many games he has managed for that season.
I am having the same trouble trying to figure out if Sandilands can string together 7 or 8 games but his ceiling is much higher and thus his chance of a quick price increase higher imo.
Guess its a case of hope for the best plan for the worst? or play it safe.

Quote from: DCAK on February 13, 2014, 10:06:44 AM
What I read into what Chris Scott said is that Dawson Simpson & HMac may be a week on - week off proposition, so if you're looking for a sharp, short term price increase clearly that won't happen, ie could take HMac 6 weeks to play 3 games.

... My last sentence "However Chris Scott said that he's basically looking to get a season from HMac and Simpson combined, so I'd be surprised if HMac played 7 games straight."  :P

Rico I dunno, I think week on/week off could be a real possibility if they're trying to manage their workload, my only thought is how that would affect team continuity. But I would be surprised if either played more than 3-4 games on the trot from what Scott said.

Grufflez HMac averaged 103 from 7 games in 2012, would have been a top 5 ruck if he's managed that for the season (NicNat, Maric, Cox, Roughy averaged higher)

Grufflez

Quote from: GCSkiwi on February 13, 2014, 10:54:44 AM
Quote from: Grufflez on February 13, 2014, 09:25:14 AM
Agree but can H-mac string those games together..and i think his ruck load will be well shared so i can't see him stringing those 6-7 games together with scores of 95-105..check footy wire stats but don't think H-mac has ever gone 100+ in however many games he has managed for that season.
I am having the same trouble trying to figure out if Sandilands can string together 7 or 8 games but his ceiling is much higher and thus his chance of a quick price increase higher imo.
Guess its a case of hope for the best plan for the worst? or play it safe.

Quote from: DCAK on February 13, 2014, 10:06:44 AM
What I read into what Chris Scott said is that Dawson Simpson & HMac may be a week on - week off proposition, so if you're looking for a sharp, short term price increase clearly that won't happen, ie could take HMac 6 weeks to play 3 games.

... My last sentence "However Chris Scott said that he's basically looking to get a season from HMac and Simpson combined, so I'd be surprised if HMac played 7 games straight."  :P

Rico I dunno, I think week on/week off could be a real possibility if they're trying to manage their workload, my only thought is how that would affect team continuity. But I would be surprised if either played more than 3-4 games on the trot from what Scott said.

Grufflez HMac averaged 103 from 7 games in 2012, would have been a top 5 ruck if he's managed that for the season (NicNat, Maric, Cox, Roughy averaged higher)

I stand corrected on his average  ;) good research mate.