Simpson or Thompson

Started by enzedder, February 08, 2014, 09:11:38 AM

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enzedder

Not much between these two. I think they're both good picks.
I've had Thompson in my planned line up from the get go but his bye clashes with Ablett, Pendles, Beams, Danger, Martin, JMartin...and round 8 bye players aren't the best to be loaded up with. So I've started looking at Simpson as a replacement.
Simpson's scores make for great reading after a slow start...10 100pts+after R8 last year with a couple of scores in high 90s.
Thompson scores read well too but with Simpson having a friendlier bye and finishing 2013 so well I think I might start with him. What do you think?


ben_020285

There are a lot of round 8 bye premiums in mids and fwds but the beauty of Thommo is that he is one of the only decent round 8 bye options in defence. With the bye structure it's best to make sure that you don't have 3 or more potential keepers on any given line so having just Thommo in defence is fine.

With Simpson and his round 9 bye, you have Mitchell and Suckling who share it too so if you already have both of them which most teams do then it's probably best not to have Simpson.

GoLions

I'm starting both atm, but if I had to choose 1, would probably go with Thompson.

Also, regarding byes, it doesn't really matter how many round 8 mids you have, it's better to look at specific lines not your team as a whole. And as ben said, you should have Mitchell and Suckling who have the same bye as Simpson which will hurt you more than starting Thompson if you're worried about the byes.

enzedder

18 top scoring players count during the byes regardless of what line they are on so long as they are in the starting 22 so what does it matter if one has Simpson, Mitchell and Suckling but enough players in the other positions to cover them. A bit of water to go under the bridge but presently I have 4 rookies who share that bye. With a bit of luck and 3 available trades I can swap 3 of these for players who had the bye in R8. Am I missing or not understanding something?

GoLions

Quote from: enzedder on February 08, 2014, 12:12:43 PM
18 top scoring players count during the byes regardless of what line they are on so long as they are in the starting 22 so what does it matter if one has Simpson, Mitchell and Suckling but enough players in the other positions to cover them. A bit of water to go under the bridge but presently I have 4 rookies who share that bye. With a bit of luck and 3 available trades I can swap 3 of these for players who had the bye in R8. Am I missing or not understanding something?
Not 100% sure if you understand this correctly, but you might. Just to make sure, you can't have, for example, a rookie mid covering for a defender who has the bye. Getting Simpson means you would have at least 1 donut in the backline that round, whereas having Thompson means you might not have any in defence. Unless you think you'll be struggling to field 18 players in R8, I'd go with Thompson. If you think you'll have too many out in round 8 and can't afford any more donuts in other lines because of your midfield, Simpson may be a better choice. How many R8 defenders do you have?

Sabretooth Tigers

 :-[
Now I'm getting a little cofused. I was under the impression as is enzeder that the highest scoring 18, regardless of position or line that are on the playing field of 22, are the one's you are scored on. Has this been changed since last season  ??    ???

GoLions

Quote from: Sabretooth Tigers on February 08, 2014, 01:24:21 PM
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Now I'm getting a little cofused. I was under the impression as is enzeder that the highest scoring 18, regardless of position or line that are on the playing field of 22, are the one's you are scored on. Has this been changed since last season  ??    ???
I thought he meant benched players from other positions filling in

enzedder

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Quote from: GoLions16 on February 08, 2014, 01:25:15 PM
Quote from: Sabretooth Tigers on February 08, 2014, 01:24:21 PM
:-[
Now I'm getting a little cofused. I was under the impression as is enzeder that the highest scoring 18, regardless of position or line that are on the playing field of 22, are the one's you are scored on. Has this been changed since last season  ??    ???
I thought he meant benched players from other positions filling in
No. Maybe 5 defenders, and say 7 mids, 2 rucks and 5 forwards =19 players out of 22. Lowest doesn't count so who cares if 6th defender (Simpson) has the bye as he isn't needed anyway.
I understand the line point you are making now but team balance can cover that. My initial post reflected a worry about having to many R8 bye players. Besides Thompson the only other R8bye defender I currently have is McDonald in answer to your previous question.

enzedder

Surprised at the poll...currently 7-1 with 1 being my vote for Simpson. So a bit of a whitewash.
Simpson scored...78,74,42,72,102,82&66 in the first 7 rounds at an average of 64. After that he scored 97,103,99,117,113,106,69,119,120,108,128,55,126,144&73 at an average of 105. Not bad for a defender priced at $513k.

jfitty

I'd love to know at what stage of last season Simpson switched to playing down back, and whether or not he will play there again this year.

He averaged about the same as Walker from round 8 onwards, so would be handy to slot him in down back and save some cash.

Peter


ubeaut

Quote from: jfitty on February 08, 2014, 02:19:17 PM
I'd love to know at what stage of last season Simpson switched to playing down back, and whether or not he will play there again this year.

He averaged about the same as Walker from round 8 onwards, so would be handy to slot him in down back and save some cash.
Yeah it's really important to have an idea where Simmo and Walker will play most. Same with McVeigh. Bartel apparently will be more FWD again so he's out for me.

I find it too hard to pick KPP esp in defence. Simmo for me pending his role.

jfitty

Quote from: ubeaut on February 08, 2014, 05:50:39 PM
Quote from: jfitty on February 08, 2014, 02:19:17 PM
I'd love to know at what stage of last season Simpson switched to playing down back, and whether or not he will play there again this year.

He averaged about the same as Walker from round 8 onwards, so would be handy to slot him in down back and save some cash.
Yeah it's really important to have an idea where Simmo and Walker will play most. Same with McVeigh. Bartel apparently will be more FWD again so he's out for me.

I find it too hard to pick KPP esp in defence. Simmo for me pending his role.

I think whoever plays down back out of Walker and Simpson will line up alongside McVeigh and Mitchell in my backline. Premiums are tough to pick at this stage!

specky92

Simpson the 2nd best value pick behind suckling in the backline imo

Grufflez

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Currently have both in my team,only worry as iv seen someone else mention in another thread is if North Melbourne
dominate this year how will that affect Thompsons scores as he is considered one of the two non running premium backmen in  hibberd and himself.

Update.Just checked footywire for stats and thompson scored most of his biggest SC scores when North smashed teams or it was an extremely close game in which they lost by under 10 points.So would seem that it isn't a problem for Thommo