What will Sandi Average?

Started by Jackross10, February 05, 2014, 08:08:02 AM

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Jackross10

Quote from: elephants on February 06, 2014, 05:42:49 PM
Quote from: Jackross10 on February 06, 2014, 05:28:50 PM
Quote from: elephants on February 06, 2014, 05:00:35 PM
If going with option #6, proceed to step #7 Don't bother with SC :P

Haha. I feel Naitanui and Lobbe is the go for me! Still have a solid team all round just think lobbe will out score Sandi. And the extra 150k doesn't bother me too much!

Haha yeah nothing wrong with that combo mate ;) Especially with the news that Redden will be out for 10 weeks after knee surgery!


Yeah kicking my lips. Hopefully he has a good year. Will be a good pickup.

Holz

Quote from: elephants on February 06, 2014, 05:00:35 PM
If going with option #6, proceed to step #7 Don't bother with SC :P

I better remove myself from the comp than ;P

Godly + Minson/Lobbe

75-80 average when you add in the donuts. He didn't score that well with Clarke in the side abd can't see him going 95+ even if he never gets injured.

I'll take 220+ from my trucks instead.

Bully

Quote from: Holzman on February 06, 2014, 06:14:53 PM
Quote from: elephants on February 06, 2014, 05:00:35 PM
If going with option #6, proceed to step #7 Don't bother with SC :P

75-80 average when you add in the donuts. He didn't score that well with Clarke in the side abd can't see him going 95+ even if he never gets injured.


Qualifying Final -  Clarke 78 points    Sandilands 112
Preliminary Final - Clarke 76 points    Sandilands  103
Grand Final -       Clarke 37 points    Sandilands 125

Write Sandi off at your peril, the finals proved he's clearly Freo's number 1 and is a sleeping premo. Injury is still an issue but measures can be put in place to cover for that eventuality.

Mat0369

They will want to ruck Clarke the majority of the time they are both in the side so Sanid doesn't wear out. Finals are a different story, you put the best big man in the middle, which is clearly Sandilands and that is why his scores were higher. If you have a guy that has been so injury prone the last two seasons, Freo will not try and overwork him during the season by having him take the majority of the ruck work when they have competent replacement in the team. That is just bad management for a team that wants to go deep into September not deep into round 8

Vinny

Quote from: Jackross10 on February 06, 2014, 05:59:56 PM
Quote from: elephants on February 06, 2014, 05:42:49 PM
Quote from: Jackross10 on February 06, 2014, 05:28:50 PM
Quote from: elephants on February 06, 2014, 05:00:35 PM
If going with option #6, proceed to step #7 Don't bother with SC :P

Haha. I feel Naitanui and Lobbe is the go for me! Still have a solid team all round just think lobbe will out score Sandi. And the extra 150k doesn't bother me too much!

Haha yeah nothing wrong with that combo mate ;) Especially with the news that Redden will be out for 10 weeks after knee surgery!


Yeah kicking my lips. Hopefully he has a good year. Will be a good pickup.

Kicking your lips, that'd be tough!




I'll be watching Lobbe and Sandi in the preason. If Lobbe kills I'll get him.

Big Mac

Quote from: Holzman on February 06, 2014, 06:14:53 PM
Quote from: elephants on February 06, 2014, 05:00:35 PM
If going with option #6, proceed to step #7 Don't bother with SC :P

I better remove myself from the comp than ;P

Godly + Minson/Lobbe

75-80 average when you add in the donuts. He didn't score that well with Clarke in the side abd can't see him going 95+ even if he never gets injured.

I'll take 220+ from my trucks instead.

What's that combination at the expense of though? Are the points Minson/Lobbe will average over Sandi really worth the extra 150-200k? I'm guessing it leaves you with a weakened f4/f5

elephants

Quote from: Bully on February 06, 2014, 06:27:11 PM
Quote from: Holzman on February 06, 2014, 06:14:53 PM
Quote from: elephants on February 06, 2014, 05:00:35 PM
If going with option #6, proceed to step #7 Don't bother with SC :P

75-80 average when you add in the donuts. He didn't score that well with Clarke in the side abd can't see him going 95+ even if he never gets injured.


Qualifying Final -  Clarke 78 points    Sandilands 112
Preliminary Final - Clarke 76 points    Sandilands  103
Grand Final -       Clarke 37 points    Sandilands 125

Write Sandi off at your peril, the finals proved he's clearly Freo's number 1 and is a sleeping premo. Injury is still an issue but measures can be put in place to cover for that eventuality.

Haha beat me to it Bully :P

Sandi has had a better pre-season than Clarke as well Holz.

Bully

Quote from: Mat0369 on February 06, 2014, 06:33:44 PM
They will want to ruck Clarke the majority of the time they are both in the side so Sanid doesn't wear out. Finals are a different story, you put the best big man in the middle, which is clearly Sandilands and that is why his scores were higher. If you have a guy that has been so injury prone the last two seasons, Freo will not try and overwork him during the season by having him take the majority of the ruck work when they have competent replacement in the team. That is just bad management for a team that wants to go deep into September not deep into round 8

For Supercoach purposes, Sandi only needs to get a solid early run, and there's nothing to suggest that Freo won't be attempting to get some early wins on the board. They have Collingwood, Hawthorn & Sydney inside the first 5 rounds, they won't want to give even an inch to those opponents, and I think Sandi's finals form will ensure he starts number 1 ruck in those matches.

I think it's important to realise that Sandilands represents a tidy cash cow with some potential to be a keeper. He's priced to score 61 a match, which is ridiculously low for a player who can match the likes of Goldy & Minson. Of course there's the risk he'll be rested or vested, that's exactly why i plan on bringing in Dixon as loophole cover. We've also got the first couple of weeks to have a really close look, if he's spudding it up, then he gets the axe. If not, then he stays until he's made 200k. 

Holz

Quote from: Big  Mac on February 06, 2014, 06:47:49 PM
Quote from: Holzman on February 06, 2014, 06:14:53 PM
Quote from: elephants on February 06, 2014, 05:00:35 PM
If going with option #6, proceed to step #7 Don't bother with SC :P

I better remove myself from the comp than ;P

Godly + Minson/Lobbe

75-80 average when you add in the donuts. He didn't score that well with Clarke in the side abd can't see him going 95+ even if he never gets injured.

I'll take 220+ from my trucks instead.

What's that combination at the expense of though? Are the points Minson/Lobbe will average over Sandi really worth the extra 150-200k? I'm guessing it leaves you with a weakened f4/f5

It does leave me with a weaker forward line but it's definately worth it. I'm starting probably one more rookie this way but in the process I'm getting the best of the best on each line.


I can find better value forwards than Sandi but I can't find 110+ forwards like Minson (already have danger Martin).

I have actually just gone nic Nat goldy as I needed the 100k.

Basically goes down to structure but Minson + marksworth v Sandi + 400k forward is an easy choice.

Got Clark as F4.



Vinny

Clark might not be fit Round 1.

Interested to see your team Holz.

I hate the Sandi pick but it helps me get an extra premium.

He just needs to play till the byes.


Anubis

Sandi will be subbed off every chance they get

elephants

Quote from: Anubis on February 08, 2014, 01:13:02 PM
Sandi will be subbed off every chance they get

And with Swans, Hawks, Pies and Bombers before round 5, I don't think there will be many chances early.

Bully

Quote from: elephants on February 08, 2014, 01:16:37 PM
Quote from: Anubis on February 08, 2014, 01:13:02 PM
Sandi will be subbed off every chance they get

And with Swans, Hawks, Pies and Bombers before round 5, I don't think there will be many chances early.

This is more reason to play him IMO, early wins will be critical and Sandi still remains their number one option.

In any case, I'm flirting with the idea of playing Sandi as 3rd ruck and loopholing him for the early rounds. If no viable rookies emerge this may even become a necessity.

At present I've got Naitanui, Hmac, Sandilands & Ben Brown.

elephants

Quote from: Bully on February 08, 2014, 05:03:05 PM
Quote from: elephants on February 08, 2014, 01:16:37 PM
Quote from: Anubis on February 08, 2014, 01:13:02 PM
Sandi will be subbed off every chance they get

And with Swans, Hawks, Pies and Bombers before round 5, I don't think there will be many chances early.

This is more reason to play him IMO, early wins will be critical and Sandi still remains their number one option.

In any case, I'm flirting with the idea of playing Sandi as 3rd ruck and loopholing him for the early rounds. If no viable rookies emerge this may even become a necessity.

At present I've got Naitanui, Hmac, Sandilands & Ben Brown.

Yeah thats exactly the point I was trying to get across. Don't think I explained it especially well :P

And that's my exact ruck depo and plan atm... Do I have a stalker... :o

Bully

Quote from: elephants on February 08, 2014, 05:23:50 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 08, 2014, 05:03:05 PM
Quote from: elephants on February 08, 2014, 01:16:37 PM
Quote from: Anubis on February 08, 2014, 01:13:02 PM
Sandi will be subbed off every chance they get

And with Swans, Hawks, Pies and Bombers before round 5, I don't think there will be many chances early.

This is more reason to play him IMO, early wins will be critical and Sandi still remains their number one option.

In any case, I'm flirting with the idea of playing Sandi as 3rd ruck and loopholing him for the early rounds. If no viable rookies emerge this may even become a necessity.

At present I've got Naitanui, Hmac, Sandilands & Ben Brown.

Yeah thats exactly the point I was trying to get across. Don't think I explained it especially well :P

And that's my exact ruck depo and plan atm... Do I have a stalker... :o

Not intentionally stalking.  ;D

With the above set-up, Brown is a viable loophole option for the first 5 rounds, Sandi cops the 'e' rounds 1,2,3 & 5, Hmac round 4.

Round 6 no loophole option will be available but round 7 Hmac comes into play again.

Then there's the byes, rucks hopefully at full strength for the entire 3 rounds.