Brodie Grundy at R2

[shaker]

For those considering him what exactly do you expect the kid to average...

Don't think you could expect any more than 80 this year but he is a big lump of a lad with another year under his belt who knows he might go higher

OK, at an 80ave he is only making you 60-70k while being 30-35 points off the top ruckmen, which is definitely not viable.
For some reason he's quite a popular pick but I'm worried a lot will get burnt relying on this kid in only his second year.

Personally I will be going with 1 gun plus someone like lobbe but if cash becomes a problem I think he would be my choice

[shaker]

I just dont get the Grundy hype at all. Even if he plays as the sole ruckman for the entire season (which he wont because hes a kid and his body wont hold up in that position for the entire season) I still cant see him averaging more than 80-85.
Its not enough. Hmac and Sandi are cheaper and will both push the 100+ mark. Considering you only really want these mid priced guys to last until the byes, youre better off getting the better scoring potential in

Sandi yes, but how can you saw Hmac will? He's barely played any footy for 3 years and is getting older. Even if his body does hold up i cant really see him being that damaging

Rounds 1-7 2012, scores were - 77, 110, 117, 88, 140, 111, 77 (average 102)

I think I would go with Grundy at No 2 over Sandi or H mac at the moment at least you no he will do the bulk of the ruckwork as for the other two don't know how they are going to be used so would wait till NAB cup and if they do not play significant time in NAB will steer clear just feel  Sandi will be managed heavily and H mac would just have to see how he goes under real round 1 pressure footy

Sandi was one of Freo's stalwarts in the finals. Supercoach average of 114 and 44 hit outs in the Grand Final. Based on that one would expect some early game time.

Agree Bully he will get early game time but how much is a worry we have seen Ross Lyon rest most of his good players last year in one game I am sure he is not interested in flogging the guts out Sandi in the first half of the season he will want him when it counts at the end of the season and I expect to see him subbed often maybe with only half a game and to be left at home sometimes when they have to fly east for easier games think his scores in the first half or more of the season to be affected

Maybe as someone suggested, it's worth having Sandi as R3, one can play the loophole game, save on trades, and have excellent bye coverage. It's a big call given the pressure on other lines but it's something worth considering. Last year's winner put huge emphasis on all loopholes, including bench players. 

It would be nice but don't think I will be able to afford the luxury of Sandi on the bench

[dmac07]

I think he could push as high as low 90s, especially early in the year as the kid is immensly talented, may tire later in the year but would plan on being rid of him. Its the lack of great alternatives thats got me considering him. I have Sandi, but dont like hmac as a pick, not spending 600k+ on goldy or minson, dont trust guys like ryder, mumford, cox not to go backwards, dont belive the hype on lobbe. If nic nat is fit and firing will be hard not to go a nic nat/sandi combo but nic nat needs to prove he is fit in the nab cup first.

[Bully]

I just dont get the Grundy hype at all. Even if he plays as the sole ruckman for the entire season (which he wont because hes a kid and his body wont hold up in that position for the entire season) I still cant see him averaging more than 80-85.
Its not enough. Hmac and Sandi are cheaper and will both push the 100+ mark. Considering you only really want these mid priced guys to last until the byes, youre better off getting the better scoring potential in

Sandi yes, but how can you saw Hmac will? He's barely played any footy for 3 years and is getting older. Even if his body does hold up i cant really see him being that damaging

Rounds 1-7 2012, scores were - 77, 110, 117, 88, 140, 111, 77 (average 102)

I think I would go with Grundy at No 2 over Sandi or H mac at the moment at least you no he will do the bulk of the ruckwork as for the other two don't know how they are going to be used so would wait till NAB cup and if they do not play significant time in NAB will steer clear just feel  Sandi will be managed heavily and H mac would just have to see how he goes under real round 1 pressure footy

Sandi was one of Freo's stalwarts in the finals. Supercoach average of 114 and 44 hit outs in the Grand Final. Based on that one would expect some early game time.

Agree Bully he will get early game time but how much is a worry we have seen Ross Lyon rest most of his good players last year in one game I am sure he is not interested in flogging the guts out Sandi in the first half of the season he will want him when it counts at the end of the season and I expect to see him subbed often maybe with only half a game and to be left at home sometimes when they have to fly east for easier games think his scores in the first half or more of the season to be affected

Maybe as someone suggested, it's worth having Sandi as R3, one can play the loophole game, save on trades, and have excellent bye coverage. It's a big call given the pressure on other lines but it's something worth considering. Last year's winner put huge emphasis on all loopholes, including bench players. 

It would be nice but don't think I will be able to afford the luxury of Sandi on the bench

So will you bypass Sandi altogether? It's a massive call given his last 3 games against the competition's best produced a 114 average. Such a pity Naitanui isn't DPP, it would have solved so many problems.

[Ricochet]

I think he could push as high as low 90s, especially early in the year as the kid is immensly talented, may tire later in the year but would plan on being rid of him. Its the lack of great alternatives thats got me considering him. I have Sandi, but dont like hmac as a pick, not spending 600k+ on goldy or minson, dont trust guys like ryder, mumford, cox not to go backwards, dont belive the hype on lobbe. If nic nat is fit and firing will be hard not to go a nic nat/sandi combo but nic nat needs to prove he is fit in the nab cup first.

90s would be a huge improvement. You can't take too much from his debut year but he only had one score over 76.

[shaker]

I just dont get the Grundy hype at all. Even if he plays as the sole ruckman for the entire season (which he wont because hes a kid and his body wont hold up in that position for the entire season) I still cant see him averaging more than 80-85.
Its not enough. Hmac and Sandi are cheaper and will both push the 100+ mark. Considering you only really want these mid priced guys to last until the byes, youre better off getting the better scoring potential in

Sandi yes, but how can you saw Hmac will? He's barely played any footy for 3 years and is getting older. Even if his body does hold up i cant really see him being that damaging

Rounds 1-7 2012, scores were - 77, 110, 117, 88, 140, 111, 77 (average 102)

I think I would go with Grundy at No 2 over Sandi or H mac at the moment at least you no he will do the bulk of the ruckwork as for the other two don't know how they are going to be used so would wait till NAB cup and if they do not play significant time in NAB will steer clear just feel  Sandi will be managed heavily and H mac would just have to see how he goes under real round 1 pressure footy

Sandi was one of Freo's stalwarts in the finals. Supercoach average of 114 and 44 hit outs in the Grand Final. Based on that one would expect some early game time.

Agree Bully he will get early game time but how much is a worry we have seen Ross Lyon rest most of his good players last year in one game I am sure he is not interested in flogging the guts out Sandi in the first half of the season he will want him when it counts at the end of the season and I expect to see him subbed often maybe with only half a game and to be left at home sometimes when they have to fly east for easier games think his scores in the first half or more of the season to be affected

Maybe as someone suggested, it's worth having Sandi as R3, one can play the loophole game, save on trades, and have excellent bye coverage. It's a big call given the pressure on other lines but it's something worth considering. Last year's winner put huge emphasis on all loopholes, including bench players. 

It would be nice but don't think I will be able to afford the luxury of Sandi on the bench

So will you bypass Sandi altogether? It's a massive call given his last 3 games against the competition's best produced a 114 average. Such a pity Naitanui isn't DPP, it would have solved so many problems.

Yes Sandi is not on my radar for the reasons I wrote earlier honestly it's a credit to him to still be playing at 32 at this level for a man of his size