Liverpool, England's greatest team??

[Keeper27]

Liverpool beat Manchester United to be named England's greatest team


The 18-time English champions remain the country's premier club on average league position since 1958 - but United have won more points.

Despite Manchester United's dominance in the Premier League era, Liverpool remain English football's greatest side - according to one study, at least.

Taking the finishing position of every football league club in each season since the league was expanded to 92 sides in 1958, the Reds remain as the No 1 side, via a process of averaging each team's finishing positions.

The club which finished top of English football were awarded a score of 1, while the side to have finished bottom of the pile were scored 92.

And coming out on top - with the lowest score - were the five-time European champions, Liverpool.

Since the 1958-59 campaign, the Reds have consistently been the best team to feature in the football league, with an average finishing place of 4.96.

That is better than United, who finish in second with an average score of 5.27



A key part of Liverpool's success has been a rather stingy defence. No side has conceded fewer goals during the period.

In terms of points won, however, United just edge it, winning 3602 during the 55-year period, 61 more than their north west rivals.

As such, the Red Devils have a greater average points total - 65.49, compared to Liverpool's 64.38 - whilst they are also the top scorers, with 3950 goals to their name.


Liverpool - avg pos (4.97), points (3541), avg points (64.38), goals (3776), goals against (2125)
Man UTD - avg pos (5.27), points (3602), avg points (65.49), goals (3950), goals against (2455)
Arsenal - avg pos (5.82), points (3345), avg points (60.82), goals (3568), goals against (2498)
Chelsea - avg pos (11.64), points (3162), avg points (57.49), goals (3521), goals against (2862)
Everton - avg pos (8.75), points (2903), avg points (52.78), goals (3187), goals against (2732)
Man City - avg pos (15.27), points (2895), avg points (52.64), goals (3296), goals against (2981)
Tottenham - avg pos (8.60), points (2913), avg points (52.96), goals (3456), goals against (3002)

# note both LFC & MUFC won an extra 5 league titles before 1958

[T Dog]

Close..but no cigar..Its Arsenal..obviously... 8)

[tbagrocks]

I will live in London town, because of Chelsea ;D

[Kellogscrunchynut]

The United fans of this forum have definitely not seen this. :-X

[Keeper27]

The United fans of this forum have definitely not seen this. :-X

maybe they have and can't argue against stats lol :P

[Andrew3737]

Im fine with this. Liverpool's outdated system just flonked when they changed the pass back rule. They couldn't adjust. You can take all you want from this, still doesn't defeat the fact that they haven't done shower in 20+ years, and NO, running hot in cup competitions does not mean you have achieved anything.

[Keeper27]

every team has their time in the sun, and yours is slowly setting.
ours will come again.

guess in 20+ years time i'll be saying the same sh!t to your mob
"haven't done sh!t in 20+ years, and NO, running hot in cup competitions does not mean you have achieved anything" LOL

5 cups in a season (2001) still hasn't been matched by your lot.






lol jokin just stirrin yous.. ;D

[Andrew3737]

You can have all the little trophies you want. We will take the big ones thank you.

[elephants]

You can have all the little trophies you want. We will take the big ones thank you.

Lol, think you'd be stoked with any trophies this season.. ::)

[tbagrocks]

inside 20 minutes ve the Gunners

Liverpool 4, Arsenal 0

[elephants]

Haha oh Le Arse.

[Dudge]

Chelsea Top ;D Where we belong!!!!!!!!!!!!

[My Chumps]

The amount soccer fans talk about history is ludicrous. More than any other sport I'd say.

[tbagrocks]

Honestly this almost proves it, live this morning before the stunning first half slaughter of City

honouring 94 people who died 25 years earlier from a fallen stand. Being top for the first time for about that long and sensing a coveted Premiership title. The crowed belted out "You'll never walk alone" wowee how about that!! One of the greatest moments in sport for me and wow didn't the team respond ;D

[Andrew3747]

Rare mistake from the best/2nd best defender won you the game. Yeah, what a response.