8 Rookie Midfield

[Toga]

just for arguments sake, i actually put this team together
this is what I came out with (moved McDonald to DEF for Rook purposes and brought in LewisTaylor)

is this really worse than what you're planning to lineup with?

Nice work mate that was interesting!

I'd be interested to see what the projected average of a normally structured team would be so you could see how many points it would cost you/win you if anyone has time (not on my comp at te moment) :o

[pommyadam]

I'd be interested to see what the projected average of a normally structured team would be so you could see how many points it would cost you/win you if anyone has time (not on my comp at te moment) :o

a comparison with the most selected players (according to drawing board)



projected average is actually higher with the "rook" team (1737 vs 1714)

[upthemaidens]

      Give it a go, atleast you'll know for future reference.
   

[Toga]

Nice pommy, cheers for the stats :)

[salver11]

What I'm noticing most is that Suckling and Beams are in over 80% of teams at the moment. I'm with the crowd on Beams but I think Suckling may be seeing a lot of the vest in the first five rounds.

Also Chappy in less than 20% of teams so he is kind of unique. I guess one of the good things about only to games of Nab is that if you have someone you think might be a bit unique they wont get over exposed.

[elephants]

I did this in 2011 and finished 4k overall in my second year of DT. Since I was a spastic trader back then, I could have finished top 1k really. It seriously worked for me then but I just don't have the nads to go it again :P

[ADEZ]

I think it is feasible with 6 rookies, for example I just threw this together:

[Master Q]

I don't think it could work this year. DEF and FWD aren't good enough.

[Spanner221]

@ADEZ thats a DT team, the op is talking about it fantasy.

Don't think you can do 6 in fantasy but certainly in DT

[browny_wce]

J.Martin, L.McDonald, J.Lonergan, D.Tyson, C.Beams, L.Dunstan, V.Michie, X. Ellis

They are all strong chances to be regular players in the 22. Whack 2 of them on your bench each week while having Ablett at M1 as your perma captain and Beams at M2 as perma VC.

Risk I know, but if I was ever going to do it, this would be the year to.

Thoughts??

Sweet so your mids will average 480-500 a week whilst I have Swan as C 220+, Rocky 110+, Selwood 110+, Watson 110+ and smoke you with 4 players still to play
Not a chance this is ever a good idea mate

[pommyadam]

Sweet so your mids will average 480-500 a week whilst I have Swan as C 220+, Rocky 110+, Selwood 110+, Watson 110+ and smoke you with 4 players still to play
Not a chance this is ever a good idea mate

but then he's got a stacked rest of team, whereas you're contending with 50 point scorers (as a FWD rook, very possible) as well as shaky JS

so yes, he may get slaughtered in the mids (by around 200 points) but he'll pull that back with the other lines (see my posts with 2 teams)
Rook vs Simpson in DEF (probably about a 30 point swing)
Minson + Goldy vs NicNat and Sandi (probably about 50-70 points there)
Roughead, Caddy, Chappy vs Kersten, Honeychurch and Parker (and there's the other 100 or so points)

[Ziplock]

It all depends on the value/ scoring potential of the rookies.

If his midfield rookies are pumping 30+ ppg more than his def/ fwd and have better JS, it could work. Honestly, the vest is the only reason why it wouldn't... but that is a big one.

Every year I try to explain this, and every year people don't seem to get it. It doesn't matter where you stack your team, the magic number dictates that across the board players will be priced at their average from last year... the trick is to find players to increase their average, avoid players who decrease and to get the best scoring rookies.

at least 1 midfield premium is necessary for captaincy, and preferably 2 for a VC or loophole option, but really, it comes down to where the points are, and JS is. For instance, if there's 8 midfield rookies who all have great JS/ scoring potential, but there's only 2 backs and 2 forwards with ok JS/ scoring potential, then you're better to load your forward/ backline with guns and go a midfield rookie strategy. Rookies aren't priced at their averages, and subsequently by fielding the higher scoring ones you're circumventing the limitations and restrictions the MN puts on your team, as well (in this scenario), by having more rookies make more money and top out faster, since you'd be stuck with dead weights on your fwd/ back bench.

Basically, you've got to crunch the numbers and JS of the rookies and make a judgement call. I think it could work, but you'd want to be damn certain before trying it. It's not really worth much consideration pre-nab cup anyway.

[Grazz]

Can certainly win a league with this system but I think you would struggle to rank well early therefore giving plenty of teams a head start on you.

[browny_wce]

Sweet so your mids will average 480-500 a week whilst I have Swan as C 220+, Rocky 110+, Selwood 110+, Watson 110+ and smoke you with 4 players still to play
Not a chance this is ever a good idea mate

but then he's got a stacked rest of team, whereas you're contending with 50 point scorers (as a FWD rook, very possible) as well as shaky JS

so yes, he may get slaughtered in the mids (by around 200 points) but he'll pull that back with the other lines (see my posts with 2 teams)
Rook vs Simpson in DEF (probably about a 30 point swing)
Minson + Goldy vs NicNat and Sandi (probably about 50-70 points there)
Roughead, Caddy, Chappy vs Kersten, Honeychurch and Parker (and there's the other 100 or so points)

Minson had a freak year like Mitch Clark at Brisbane a few years back, so hard to say he's going to average so much more than Nic Nat and I don't think Goldy would out average a fit Sandi
Agreed on rookies v Simpson but for me it's Fuller v McDonald at M6, don't see much difference
Chappy is a huge risk! Caddy might get the Mid time but could average similarly to Rohan really.
Parker n Roughy would be handy but would rather gun Mids every time

So yeh good call.....

[Ziplock]

Sweet so your mids will average 480-500 a week whilst I have Swan as C 220+, Rocky 110+, Selwood 110+, Watson 110+ and smoke you with 4 players still to play
Not a chance this is ever a good idea mate

but then he's got a stacked rest of team, whereas you're contending with 50 point scorers (as a FWD rook, very possible) as well as shaky JS

so yes, he may get slaughtered in the mids (by around 200 points) but he'll pull that back with the other lines (see my posts with 2 teams)
Rook vs Simpson in DEF (probably about a 30 point swing)
Minson + Goldy vs NicNat and Sandi (probably about 50-70 points there)
Roughead, Caddy, Chappy vs Kersten, Honeychurch and Parker (and there's the other 100 or so points)

Minson had a freak year like Mitch Clark at Brisbane a few years back, so hard to say he's going to average so much more than Nic Nat and I don't think Goldy would out average a fit Sandi
Agreed on rookies v Simpson but for me it's Fuller v McDonald at M6, don't see much difference
Chappy is a huge risk! Caddy might get the Mid time but could average similarly to Rohan really.
Parker n Roughy would be handy but would rather gun Mids every time

So yeh good call.....

Mitch Clark was a completely different scenario- he scored so well because due to injuries he was the solo ruck for the lions, as opposed to the forward role he's played since.