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How to bye?

Started by mattrev, January 28, 2014, 11:49:37 PM

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mattrev

G'day all.
I'm keen but I'm no expert so wondering if there is a definate way to approach the bye rounds? Is there any way to ensure you can field a full team - assuming everyone on your team is playing? Best I can work out is going in with 8/12/12 as this means only one man down for rounds 9 and 10.
I saw some fella post that we should go in 11/9/10 - does he know something I don't?

Cheers.

WizzFizz

im going 8/8/14 so i can trade in a few round 9/8 bye players in come round 10 and effectively skip the bye. Going rnd 8 heavy is bad as if you have to trade out a player to a player that is playing, he will soon have a bye so you are wasting a trade.

EG. you have jack martin and you want to trade him out in round 8 so you can field a full team. You trade him out for rockliff. Rockliff will play rnd 8 and 9 but will have a bye rnd 10. You would have only moved the bye to a latter round.


EG2. you have lewis taylor and you want to trade him out in round 10 so you can field a full team. You trade him out for sellwood. Sellwood has already has his bye and you have effectively skipped the bye not moved it.

shorty3264

There are plenty of different theories mate. But I view the byes with extreme simplicity. I never pick a player on their bye, its simply a small factor in selection. Don't pick your side to any certain number over the three byes. Just don't have a lop sided bye structure within each line, with a focus on premo's. Whether it be 8/10/12 or 11/11/8 or 9/10/11... does it really matter? Lets face it, you may pick a certain player or two on their favourable bye, and they get injured in the first two weeks, in can change so much before the byes come round. Hope this helps, but I really don't think their is an exact formula given the amount of variables. Pick the best player possible.

quinny88

No exact formula but you still have to be wary of it.
As shorty said, injuries will strike as will suspension and form and your structure goes quickly out the window but I guess my theory is that if you at least start with a reasonably even spread over the 3 then your chances of being left short are less.

It's no easy task but if you can then you want to load up on round 10 rookies. They get more price rises and they can be traded out before their bye to a premium that's already played their bye. All good in theory I know

specky92

I think it's best to not overthink the byes, pick your team how you want it and only change if it's lopsided or a 50/50 call. It's only 1 round a player is missing I'd prefer to have the premiums and rookies I prefer rather than ones I've gone with because of their bye.

WizzFizz

Quote from: quinny88 on January 29, 2014, 12:23:38 AM
No exact formula but you still have to be wary of it.
As shorty said, injuries will strike as will suspension and form and your structure goes quickly out the window but I guess my theory is that if you at least start with a reasonably even spread over the 3 then your chances of being left short are less.

It's no easy task but if you can then you want to load up on round 10 rookies. They get more price rises and they can be traded out before their bye to a premium that's already played their bye. All good in theory I know

YES

im my current version of my team i have 8 round 10 rookies. Hopefully 3-4 premos can be traded in here

mattrev

Agreed. It wouldn't be right to choose the players, like you mention, just based on their bye round. But it is something to keep in the back of your mind and when an opportunity presents itself where you might be considering 2 players to trade in, then the round that they bye, may end up having some bearing in the decision making.
I could be wrong but the 8/10/12 you mention may work to field a full team each week. Rd 9 trade out 2 players who bye that round, and 1 from someone bye-ing in round 10. That way in round 10 the 3 trades could bring down the players with a bye that round to 8 and full team could be fielded?
I guess it could work the same with the 8/8/14 mentioned too. But thing is, each position needs to have even spread of players with bye too.
Thanks for your help. I've something to think about now.

mattrev

Aahh... I'm an amateur! 8/12/12 is impossible. 2 x too many. It was 8/11/11 right from the start.

But problem regarding a full team each week remains. There's a fair bit to it I guess once you you start looking deeper and actually at how many players will bye in each position in you team. I think the tip to not over-think it might be the best one! Just keep the side balanced regarding the byes.


shaker

Quote from: mattrev on January 29, 2014, 12:41:43 AM
Aahh... I'm an amateur! 8/12/12 is impossible. 2 x too many. It was 8/11/11 right from the start.

But problem regarding a full team each week remains. There's a fair bit to it I guess once you you start looking deeper and actually at how many players will bye in each position in you team. I think the tip to not over-think it might be the best one! Just keep the side balanced regarding the byes.



Haha I was about to ask how you got extra players , but that seems to be a sensible setup you don't want any more than 8 round 8 players maybe even 7 because you really don't want to be trading round 8

Ringo

Each coach will have to devise their own bye plans but a word of advice do not focus all your attention on it as you may miss a bargain at the start. You can really over complicate it if you pay too much attention to it.  Set up the team how you want from the start with at least 14 keepers and build the rest of team around that.

My own strategy will be to load up Round 10 and Round 9 rookies as much as possible as when trading out will be trading in prems who already have had the byes.  At the moment I have 9 rookies with round 9 or 10 byes. Bear in mind if you trade conservatively in early rounds you get 3 trades per bye weeks.

At the moment my bye structure is 10/12/8 but that is out of choice as a majority of desired prems have the Round 8 bye.

GCSkiwi

The problem I'm having is that the rookie players I think are most likely to score ok and have ok JS are round 8 bye players - J.Martin, K.Kolo, L.McDonald, S.Kersten, B.Lennon all round 8. Then lower priced players like Fasolo, Bock also round 8. Obviously let's wait and see but those guys are among the more likely to get regular game time surely? There are others like X.Ellis, C.Beams, L.Dunstan and half the demons team that are 250k or less but might be tough t find round 9/10 rooks who get a regular gig...

Ringo

Agree Kiwi Round 8 is where the main prems are together with Rookies as well.  Just have to work around it and hope someone jumps out in NAB Cup.

Smileys Bruisres

At the moment i got 10/9/11 im hoping this will work

Jervz999

My formula is simple. keep the 1st 2 byes low with a lot to miss in rnd 10. my bye structure atm is 9-7-14, but my premium player bye structure is 5-4-5, leaving 2 weeks to trade up to 9 rookies to other rookies and premo's. Good luck, takes a lot to get your head around.

redevilfc

speaking of byes!!! anyone know if someone has made the yellow, blue and grey bye app like last year??