Any room for JPK?

[SydneyRox]

JPK for me. Think he is an absolute lock in SC, DT I would pick Jack, but am actually leaning towards Hanners

[ubeaut]

Picking a Swan mid will be the best decision you make.

As a swans man, who do you think will average more in SC this year. Jack or JPK?

Not a Swans man but if Jack continues to get the hard tag he got end of last year then JPK all the way.

[My Chumps]

Won't be a top 10 mid. Gaz, Pendles, Swan, Rocky, Fyfe, Libba, Prestia, Jellwood, Scooter, Watson, Dangerfield, Beams, Sidebottom, Redden, Jack and a couple of others I've probably forgot about will be a head of him.

Don't think you've really thought this through, seems a very irrational comment to make. Sidebottom?! Where do you pull that from? I can see him averaging 100, but not the 115+ that will be needed to beat JPK.

JPK averaged 120 in 2012. Those are ELITE numbers. Sidebottom's best has been 106 which is not even enough to keep him for finals. If you are predicting Pendles, Swan, Beams AND Sidebottom to beat JPK then you're either high or very optimistic. Save injuries, JPK will average at least 110, and will be well worth the initial outlay.

Well said, MC. JPK would be a sound option.

In SC the fact that he handballs so much isn't that much of an issue. It's more about what he does with it. A lot of it's contested which should equate to more SC points, but unfortunately it also leads to a lot of ineffective handballs. I'm personally not concerned about the amount he handballs. If you play DT you should be, but it's not as big of an issue in SC.

Everyone saying he won't get the tag though, he never does. I think he's been tagged once in his career, and that was by Macaffer against Collingwood (who did a fine job might I add). Hanneberry gets the number 1 tag most of the time, then Jack got it toward the end of the season.

[Dayze]

Good luck to u lads.
Enjoy when he gets 33 possessions and 89 sc points.

So many better options IMO

[Jackross10]

Good luck to u lads.
Enjoy when he gets 33 possessions and 89 sc points.

So many better options IMO

Yep. Keep thinking 89 points mate.

[Bully]

Good luck to u lads.
Enjoy when he gets 33 possessions and 89 sc points.

So many better options IMO

Yep. Keep thinking 89 points mate.

Kennedy can go large though, he's in Ablett territory when firing, 173 highest score, plenty of 140-150 scores over the past few years. Others in his price range can throw in the odd shockers too, Fyfe can be a serial butcher, Cotch also has a low DE.

Worst case scenario with Kennedy is he churns out M8 scores for the season, best case scenario is he bursts out of the blocks like he did in 2012 & 2013 and edges closer to Pendlebury's score by round 9, in which case a straight swap might be on the cards.

[colmullet]

Good luck to u lads.
Enjoy when he gets 33 possessions and 89 sc points.

So many better options IMO

Yep. Keep thinking 89 points mate.

Kennedy can go large though, he's in Ablett territory when firing, 173 highest score, plenty of 140-150 scores over the past few years. Others in his price range can throw in the odd shockers too, Fyfe can be a serial butcher, Cotch also has a low DE.

Worst case scenario with Kennedy is he churns out M8 scores for the season, best case scenario is he bursts out of the blocks like he did in 2012 & 2013 and edges closer to Pendlebury's score by round 9, in which case a straight swap might be on the cards.

You would trade out a guy that's putting up Pendlebury numbers??

[Bully]

Good luck to u lads.
Enjoy when he gets 33 possessions and 89 sc points.

So many better options IMO

Yep. Keep thinking 89 points mate.

Kennedy can go large though, he's in Ablett territory when firing, 173 highest score, plenty of 140-150 scores over the past few years. Others in his price range can throw in the odd shockers too, Fyfe can be a serial butcher, Cotch also has a low DE.

Worst case scenario with Kennedy is he churns out M8 scores for the season, best case scenario is he bursts out of the blocks like he did in 2012 & 2013 and edges closer to Pendlebury's score by round 9, in which case a straight swap might be on the cards.

You would trade out a guy that's putting up Pendlebury numbers??

To gain the second best player in the comp and cover a donut or rookie score over the byes, yes I would. Kennedy's draw also tightens up after the bye period and he tends to have mid season slumps.

2012 - Round 1-8 average   127.5
          Round 9-16 average  91.7

2013 - Round 1-8 average    122   
          Round 9-16 average   83.3

The end game is to get Pendles straight after his bye, it's a burnt trade but it also allows for an extra premium score in round 8, not to mention allowing me the extra flexibility in setting up my initial squad.

[colmullet]

Good luck to u lads.
Enjoy when he gets 33 possessions and 89 sc points.

So many better options IMO

Yep. Keep thinking 89 points mate.

Kennedy can go large though, he's in Ablett territory when firing, 173 highest score, plenty of 140-150 scores over the past few years. Others in his price range can throw in the odd shockers too, Fyfe can be a serial butcher, Cotch also has a low DE.

Worst case scenario with Kennedy is he churns out M8 scores for the season, best case scenario is he bursts out of the blocks like he did in 2012 & 2013 and edges closer to Pendlebury's score by round 9, in which case a straight swap might be on the cards.

You would trade out a guy that's putting up Pendlebury numbers??

To gain the second best player in the comp and cover a donut or rookie score over the byes, yes I would. Kennedy's draw also tightens up after the bye period and he tends to have mid season slumps.

2012 - Round 1-8 average   127.5
          Round 9-16 average  91.7

2013 - Round 1-8 average    122   
          Round 9-16 average   83.3

The end game is to get Pendles straight after his bye, it's a burnt trade but it also allows for an extra premium score in round 8, not to mention allowing me the extra flexibility in setting up my initial squad.

In theory it works, quite ballsy to trade out a fit premium player for another tho, more of a luxury trade than anything, i guess if ya have em up your sleeve its all good, you would wanna hope he does drop away after the bye though otherwise its a trade out the window pretty much

[Bully]

Good luck to u lads.
Enjoy when he gets 33 possessions and 89 sc points.

So many better options IMO

Yep. Keep thinking 89 points mate.

Kennedy can go large though, he's in Ablett territory when firing, 173 highest score, plenty of 140-150 scores over the past few years. Others in his price range can throw in the odd shockers too, Fyfe can be a serial butcher, Cotch also has a low DE.

Worst case scenario with Kennedy is he churns out M8 scores for the season, best case scenario is he bursts out of the blocks like he did in 2012 & 2013 and edges closer to Pendlebury's score by round 9, in which case a straight swap might be on the cards.

You would trade out a guy that's putting up Pendlebury numbers??

To gain the second best player in the comp and cover a donut or rookie score over the byes, yes I would. Kennedy's draw also tightens up after the bye period and he tends to have mid season slumps.

2012 - Round 1-8 average   127.5
          Round 9-16 average  91.7

2013 - Round 1-8 average    122   
          Round 9-16 average   83.3

The end game is to get Pendles straight after his bye, it's a burnt trade but it also allows for an extra premium score in round 8, not to mention allowing me the extra flexibility in setting up my initial squad.

In theory it works, quite ballsy to trade out a fit premium player for another tho, more of a luxury trade than anything, i guess if ya have em up your sleeve its all good, you would wanna hope he does drop away after the bye though otherwise its a trade out the window pretty much

Maybe with any other player apart from Pendlebury it could be seen as wasted, I look at Kennedy to Pendles as an upgrade, and hopefully I will be rewarded with a juicy 150 in round 10 when Kennedy has a bye.

It's worth noting that last years winner traded out Cloke when he was 570k for Steve Johnson when he was 520k, that was his winning move and he remained number 1 for the rest of the season. I intend to be very aggressive over the bye period, I see it as an opportunity to gain significant ground, even if that entails using all 6 trades in round 9 & 10.

[colmullet]

Good luck to u lads.
Enjoy when he gets 33 possessions and 89 sc points.

So many better options IMO

Yep. Keep thinking 89 points mate.

Kennedy can go large though, he's in Ablett territory when firing, 173 highest score, plenty of 140-150 scores over the past few years. Others in his price range can throw in the odd shockers too, Fyfe can be a serial butcher, Cotch also has a low DE.

Worst case scenario with Kennedy is he churns out M8 scores for the season, best case scenario is he bursts out of the blocks like he did in 2012 & 2013 and edges closer to Pendlebury's score by round 9, in which case a straight swap might be on the cards.

You would trade out a guy that's putting up Pendlebury numbers??

To gain the second best player in the comp and cover a donut or rookie score over the byes, yes I would. Kennedy's draw also tightens up after the bye period and he tends to have mid season slumps.

2012 - Round 1-8 average   127.5
          Round 9-16 average  91.7

2013 - Round 1-8 average    122   
          Round 9-16 average   83.3

The end game is to get Pendles straight after his bye, it's a burnt trade but it also allows for an extra premium score in round 8, not to mention allowing me the extra flexibility in setting up my initial squad.

In theory it works, quite ballsy to trade out a fit premium player for another tho, more of a luxury trade than anything, i guess if ya have em up your sleeve its all good, you would wanna hope he does drop away after the bye though otherwise its a trade out the window pretty much

Maybe with any other player apart from Pendlebury it could be seen as wasted, I look at Kennedy to Pendles as an upgrade, and hopefully I will be rewarded with a juicy 150 in round 10 when Kennedy has a bye.

It's worth noting that last years winner traded out Cloke when he was 570k for Steve Johnson when he was 520k, that was his winning move and he remained number 1 for the rest of the season. I intend to be very aggressive over the bye period, I see it as an opportunity to gain significant ground, even if that entails using all 6 trades in round 9 & 10.

Fair enough, i can see the logic in trading out a maxed out power forward for a mid who would average far more with Cloke and Johnson, just think its not so clear cut with Kennedy and Pendles, if he does continue that trend of a mid season drop away though ya will look like a genius so it's worth a look i guess, personally i'd look at converting a bye rookie to Pendles and having both after the bye if Kennedy was putting up those sorts of numbers

[Bully]

Good luck to u lads.
Enjoy when he gets 33 possessions and 89 sc points.

So many better options IMO

Yep. Keep thinking 89 points mate.

Kennedy can go large though, he's in Ablett territory when firing, 173 highest score, plenty of 140-150 scores over the past few years. Others in his price range can throw in the odd shockers too, Fyfe can be a serial butcher, Cotch also has a low DE.

Worst case scenario with Kennedy is he churns out M8 scores for the season, best case scenario is he bursts out of the blocks like he did in 2012 & 2013 and edges closer to Pendlebury's score by round 9, in which case a straight swap might be on the cards.

You would trade out a guy that's putting up Pendlebury numbers??

To gain the second best player in the comp and cover a donut or rookie score over the byes, yes I would. Kennedy's draw also tightens up after the bye period and he tends to have mid season slumps.

2012 - Round 1-8 average   127.5
          Round 9-16 average  91.7

2013 - Round 1-8 average    122   
          Round 9-16 average   83.3

The end game is to get Pendles straight after his bye, it's a burnt trade but it also allows for an extra premium score in round 8, not to mention allowing me the extra flexibility in setting up my initial squad.

In theory it works, quite ballsy to trade out a fit premium player for another tho, more of a luxury trade than anything, i guess if ya have em up your sleeve its all good, you would wanna hope he does drop away after the bye though otherwise its a trade out the window pretty much

Maybe with any other player apart from Pendlebury it could be seen as wasted, I look at Kennedy to Pendles as an upgrade, and hopefully I will be rewarded with a juicy 150 in round 10 when Kennedy has a bye.

It's worth noting that last years winner traded out Cloke when he was 570k for Steve Johnson when he was 520k, that was his winning move and he remained number 1 for the rest of the season. I intend to be very aggressive over the bye period, I see it as an opportunity to gain significant ground, even if that entails using all 6 trades in round 9 & 10.

Fair enough, i can see the logic in trading out a maxed out power forward for a mid who would average far more with Cloke and Johnson, just think its not so clear cut with Kennedy and Pendles, if he does continue that trend of a mid season drop away though ya will look like a genius so it's worth a look i guess, personally i'd look at converting a bye rookie to Pendles and having both after the bye if Kennedy was putting up those sorts of numbers

I will have all options the table but converting rookies to Pendles may not be the most efficient way of using my 3 trades. We'll just have to wait and see, but Pendles comes in round 9 or 10 no matter what.

[Halfy]

Is nobody here considering Hannebery? Averaged 95.3 last year. Average of 111 when he did not have the #1 tag from the opposition for the majority of the game, with a dedicated tagger he averaged just 69. So basically, he struggled to break a tag. I think if opposition teams decide to heavily tag Jack and Kennedy in front of Hannebery, then he is a pretty solid pick, and I believe has the potential to avg 110-115+ this year, especially after looking at the Swan's draw.

Priced at 514k, bit awkward for some structures, but I am definitely considering him. What do you think?

[SydneyRox]

Is nobody here considering Hannebery? Averaged 95.3 last year. Average of 111 when he did not have the #1 tag from the opposition for the majority of the game, with a dedicated tagger he averaged just 69. So basically, he struggled to break a tag. I think if opposition teams decide to heavily tag Jack and Kennedy in front of Hannebery, then he is a pretty solid pick, and I believe has the potential to avg 110-115+ this year, especially after looking at the Swan's draw.

Priced at 514k, bit awkward for some structures, but I am definitely considering him. What do you think?

sshhhhhhh  8)  :'(

[Dayze]

Is nobody here considering Hannebery? Averaged 95.3 last year. Average of 111 when he did not have the #1 tag from the opposition for the majority of the game, with a dedicated tagger he averaged just 69. So basically, he struggled to break a tag. I think if opposition teams decide to heavily tag Jack and Kennedy in front of Hannebery, then he is a pretty solid pick, and I believe has the potential to avg 110-115+ this year, especially after looking at the Swan's draw.

Priced at 514k, bit awkward for some structures, but I am definitely considering him. What do you think?

Will b one of the top players in the AFL one day. Out and out jet who almost nabbed a normsmith at 21.
Unfortunately is second most likely to attract the tag. Jack being first.
No one will put a tag on kennedy. Doesn't break lines, not really taggable.
Hanners unfortunately suffers from fyfe syndrome. His disposal is sloppy and until he fixes it, he wont join the eilite mids.
Priced at 95 I would much rather Bennell...