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Holz

Adamant - 08/01/2017
What players on mine are you keen on?

Holz - 08/01/2017
lots actually
just going through your list again
B Smith ,  S Savage , S Pendlebury, A Brayshaw, J Hopper, J De Goey



meow meow

Stop talking about that shower and talk about my compo instead.

Holz

Quote from: meow meow on May 22, 2018, 12:37:17 PM
Stop talking about that shower and talk about my compo instead.

You decided to give him away i was always going to pay a pick 50ish for him. which is hindsight was way too low still better then nothing.


iZander

Quote from: meow meow on May 22, 2018, 12:37:17 PM
Stop talking about that shower and talk about my compo instead.
Yeah, ive been thinking alot about this, ive been thinking a pick between 5-8 is probably about fair

meow meow

Quote from: iZander on May 22, 2018, 02:23:21 PM
Quote from: meow meow on May 22, 2018, 12:37:17 PM
Stop talking about that shower and talk about my compo instead.
Yeah, ive been thinking alot about this, ive been thinking a pick between 5-8 is probably about fair
That's just for the Anderson trade, right? A 24 year old forward averaging 86 is definitely worth that. There's been other travesties and atrocities committed upon Church all throughout our history.

Holz

Quote from: meow meow on May 22, 2018, 02:46:55 PM
Quote from: iZander on May 22, 2018, 02:23:21 PM
Quote from: meow meow on May 22, 2018, 12:37:17 PM
Stop talking about that shower and talk about my compo instead.
Yeah, ive been thinking alot about this, ive been thinking a pick between 5-8 is probably about fair
That's just for the Anderson trade, right? A 24 year old forward averaging 86 is definitely worth that. There's been other travesties and atrocities committed upon Church all throughout our history.
you cant stop it by not posting these bad deals up




meow meow

Quote from: Holz on May 22, 2018, 02:49:57 PM
Quote from: meow meow on May 22, 2018, 02:46:55 PM
Quote from: iZander on May 22, 2018, 02:23:21 PM
Quote from: meow meow on May 22, 2018, 12:37:17 PM
Stop talking about that shower and talk about my compo instead.
Yeah, ive been thinking alot about this, ive been thinking a pick between 5-8 is probably about fair
That's just for the Anderson trade, right? A 24 year old forward averaging 86 is definitely worth that. There's been other travesties and atrocities committed upon Church all throughout our history.
you cant stop it by not posting these bad deals up

What's the point of trade voting then, if it's up to the individual teams solely to ensure fair trading?

iZander

Quote from: meow meow on May 22, 2018, 02:46:55 PM
Quote from: iZander on May 22, 2018, 02:23:21 PM
Quote from: meow meow on May 22, 2018, 12:37:17 PM
Stop talking about that shower and talk about my compo instead.
Yeah, ive been thinking alot about this, ive been thinking a pick between 5-8 is probably about fair
That's just for the Anderson trade, right? A 24 year old forward averaging 86 is definitely worth that. There's been other travesties and atrocities committed upon Church all throughout our history.
Well now i think about it, its probably more 1-4, Houstons worth a top 4 pick last year at 73 average as a defender so 86 as a forward has gotta be worth that

Adamant

Quote from: iZander on May 22, 2018, 02:53:48 PM
Quote from: meow meow on May 22, 2018, 02:46:55 PM
Quote from: iZander on May 22, 2018, 02:23:21 PM
Quote from: meow meow on May 22, 2018, 12:37:17 PM
Stop talking about that shower and talk about my compo instead.
Yeah, ive been thinking alot about this, ive been thinking a pick between 5-8 is probably about fair
That's just for the Anderson trade, right? A 24 year old forward averaging 86 is definitely worth that. There's been other travesties and atrocities committed upon Church all throughout our history.
Well now i think about it, its probably more 1-4, Houstons worth a top 4 pick last year at 73 average as a defender so 86 as a forward has gotta be worth that

Don't forget that Weitering is worth more than pick 1. A 43 averaging defender that is currently playing VFL footy. Anderson is doubling his average so has to be worth the entire first round of the 2018 draft.

GoLions

Quote from: Adamant on May 22, 2018, 03:16:37 PM
Quote from: iZander on May 22, 2018, 02:53:48 PM
Quote from: meow meow on May 22, 2018, 02:46:55 PM
Quote from: iZander on May 22, 2018, 02:23:21 PM
Quote from: meow meow on May 22, 2018, 12:37:17 PM
Stop talking about that shower and talk about my compo instead.
Yeah, ive been thinking alot about this, ive been thinking a pick between 5-8 is probably about fair
That's just for the Anderson trade, right? A 24 year old forward averaging 86 is definitely worth that. There's been other travesties and atrocities committed upon Church all throughout our history.
Well now i think about it, its probably more 1-4, Houstons worth a top 4 pick last year at 73 average as a defender so 86 as a forward has gotta be worth that

Don't forget that Weitering is worth more than pick 1. A 43 averaging defender that is currently playing VFL footy. Anderson is doubling his average so has to be worth the entire first round of the 2018 draft.
Weitering's kicking on the weekend was worse than my kicking back when i played under 12s.

iZander

Quote from: GoLions on May 22, 2018, 03:40:01 PM
Quote from: Adamant on May 22, 2018, 03:16:37 PM
Quote from: iZander on May 22, 2018, 02:53:48 PM
Quote from: meow meow on May 22, 2018, 02:46:55 PM
Quote from: iZander on May 22, 2018, 02:23:21 PM
Quote from: meow meow on May 22, 2018, 12:37:17 PM
Stop talking about that shower and talk about my compo instead.
Yeah, ive been thinking alot about this, ive been thinking a pick between 5-8 is probably about fair
That's just for the Anderson trade, right? A 24 year old forward averaging 86 is definitely worth that. There's been other travesties and atrocities committed upon Church all throughout our history.
Well now i think about it, its probably more 1-4, Houstons worth a top 4 pick last year at 73 average as a defender so 86 as a forward has gotta be worth that

Don't forget that Weitering is worth more than pick 1. A 43 averaging defender that is currently playing VFL footy. Anderson is doubling his average so has to be worth the entire first round of the 2018 draft.
Weitering's kicking on the weekend was worse than my kicking back when i played under 12s.
We all know you were a superstar in U12s

GoLions

Quote from: iZander on May 22, 2018, 03:43:30 PM
Quote from: GoLions on May 22, 2018, 03:40:01 PM
Quote from: Adamant on May 22, 2018, 03:16:37 PM
Quote from: iZander on May 22, 2018, 02:53:48 PM
Quote from: meow meow on May 22, 2018, 02:46:55 PM
Quote from: iZander on May 22, 2018, 02:23:21 PM
Quote from: meow meow on May 22, 2018, 12:37:17 PM
Stop talking about that shower and talk about my compo instead.
Yeah, ive been thinking alot about this, ive been thinking a pick between 5-8 is probably about fair
That's just for the Anderson trade, right? A 24 year old forward averaging 86 is definitely worth that. There's been other travesties and atrocities committed upon Church all throughout our history.
Well now i think about it, its probably more 1-4, Houstons worth a top 4 pick last year at 73 average as a defender so 86 as a forward has gotta be worth that

Don't forget that Weitering is worth more than pick 1. A 43 averaging defender that is currently playing VFL footy. Anderson is doubling his average so has to be worth the entire first round of the 2018 draft.
Weitering's kicking on the weekend was worse than my kicking back when i played under 12s.
We all know you were a superstar in U12s
Look, I'm not gonna say you're right, but you're not wrong

RaisyDaisy

Anderson is technically averaging 86, but it's over 100 the past month and I can't see that dropping tbqh. Probably gets DPP next year too

CEY going even better

:P



Torpedo10

Quote from: Adamant on May 22, 2018, 12:07:23 PM
Quote from: iZander on May 22, 2018, 10:48:57 AM
Quote from: Adamant on May 21, 2018, 05:30:57 PM
De Goey > JOM
Youd wanna hope so given the deal  ::)

Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

At the time of the deal, Kreuzer was coming off a 110 average after playing his first season as the sole ruck in years (not splitting duties with spuds like Wood and Phillips). Nic Nat hadn't played a game in over a year and there were no guarantees he would return as the player he was. De Goey (as a forward) was always worth more than broken down Jaeger, who in all likelihood will never reach elite status.

Nobody in their right mind would have straight swapped Kreuzer for Nic Nat or De Goey for JOM at the end of last season. I had to get something back - Hogan was coming off season averages of 78.3, 76 and 69.7 and only a few astute coaches would have seen him as a future premium forward. Holz himself told me on discord that he will never be much of a scorer (adding to his ever growing list of fantastic calls). If Hogan was averaging 75 again nobody would be batting an eyelid. Not my fault I picked the potential.

As mentioned previously, you can't dismiss Callum Brown as being worth nothing. People also seem to forgot a bloke named Jayden Short was in that deal too - a 22 year old, 76 averaging defender. Phillips and Gorringe (who retired shorty after) weren't worth a whole lot but they did/were supposed to provide ruck cover as Kreuzer's backups. I didn't receive any cover to go with injury prone Nic Nat which had to be taken into consideration too. Fair trade.
I'm still content with this deal.

iZander

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 22, 2018, 05:48:11 PM
Anderson is technically averaging 86, but it's over 100 the past month and I can't see that dropping tbqh. Probably gets DPP next year too

CEY going even better

:P
na hes about a 0% chance at dpp at this rate :P going well none the less