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Started by ossie85, August 06, 2013, 12:47:24 PM

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meow meow

Quote from: Holz on July 14, 2017, 02:05:53 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2017, 01:54:25 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 14, 2017, 01:51:00 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2017, 01:45:12 PM
I'm quite happy with Tyson vs Elliott thanks ;)

As for Naismith, have you actually looked at his numbers? Basically the same as playing an OOP ruck! He's a scrub
If your OOP rucks are still scoring 70, then I dunno why you've been complaining this whole time.

I was responding to Naismith being "the man" and you wanting compo

Anyway, I'll be curious to see how we go this week because as long as we don't cop any late outs it's just Tyson + OOP ruck that we're now missing

Doesnt matter what he scores, he is "the man" at Sydney as he is their number 1 ruck.

68 aint to bad thats almost 30 more then an OOP.

Its basically the same value as like a 95 fwd/def to you as thats a 30 point upgrade on D4 F4.

Naismith = Henney confirmed

Couldn't agree more. A 30 point gain is a 30 point gain, regardless of how it happens.

Jordan Roughead is a 30 point gain and he's available in a package with Tim English.

Adamant

Quote from: meow meow on July 14, 2017, 02:35:16 PM
Umm...

16, 18, 29, 31, (40, 46, 46, 64, 68, 82)
For
12, 13, (39, 44, 45)

is close enough to even. So you're saying...

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZORKOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Scully
Pick 2

Is equal to

Higgins
Griffen
Ellis

COMPO

We'll say Scully for Higgo is close enough (a minor loss due to ages).
Leaving Zorko and pick 2 for Griffen and Corey Ellis. WOW.

Put Zorko, Scully and potentially Oliver in my team and remove Higgins (Griff and Ellis are already absent) and see if we're in the same position. Even if Ellis and Griffen were playing it'd still be grossly unjust. It wouldn't pass if the trade was done any time in the past 2 years or in the upcoming trade period.

Compo.

Sean Darcy > Zorko, Scully and Pick 2 combined

No compo.

RaisyDaisy

Of course I know a ruck, even Naismith is better than OOP but we actually have a ruck who is clearly going through a rough patch in his career. I know it doesn't happen often, but a fit and firing Tippett is a big loss to our team

Might be a 20-30 point gain having Naismith, but I'm not paying insane overs for a poor player just because he has ruck status. Hope Tippett comes back, or chase a better ruck

Either way, we're OOP in the rucks and clearly plan on fixing that in the off season but in the meantime cut us a little slack. Can only play the cards we've been dealt


RaisyDaisy

And I think playing an OOP ruck vs getting someone like Naismith isn't worth getting him at all

Most weeks he gives 50-60 with the odd 70-80 vs an 80+ player giving you 30-50. The amount we'd have to give up to get a Naismith type which is a loss of points elsewhere wouldn't be worth it overall

I think persisting with Tippett and OOP for now, while trying to get a better ruck is our best bet

Either way, it's our Achilles heel and costly

Holz

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2017, 04:04:01 PM
And I think playing an OOP ruck vs getting someone like Naismith isn't worth getting him at all

Most weeks he gives 50-60 with the odd 70-80 vs an 80+ player giving you 30-50. The amount we'd have to give up to get a Naismith type which is a loss of points elsewhere wouldn't be worth it overall

I think persisting with Tippett and OOP for now, while trying to get a better ruck is our best bet

Either way, it's our Achilles heel and costly

why not get all the rucks from 1 team?

no OOP and generally the back ups put up good numbers anyway.

Goldy Preuss Daw Durdin

meow meow

Get all the rucks from one team then somebody changes clubs and screws it up, meaning you'll have to pay overs. Not worth it.

NY would be fine if they didn't trade Vardy :P

DazBurg

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2017, 04:04:01 PM
And I think playing an OOP ruck vs getting someone like Naismith isn't worth getting him at all

Most weeks he gives 50-60 with the odd 70-80 vs an 80+ player giving you 30-50. The amount we'd have to give up to get a Naismith type which is a loss of points elsewhere wouldn't be worth it overall

I think persisting with Tippett and OOP for now, while trying to get a better ruck is our best bet

Either way, it's our Achilles heel and costly

They are overs because as you well know it is hard to have one consistently playing

Example if we were to ask for tippet from you at EOS
Averaging 61 and being 31 next year he'd be worth practically nothing
Or still hold good value being a ruck?

meow meow

Quote from: DazBurg on July 14, 2017, 06:28:47 PM
They are overs because as you well know it is hard to have one consistently playing

This may be a little known fact, but Nathan Vardy has played every match this year.

Is this getting old yet?


Purple 77

Heh, I used to think the 'all rucks from one club' was a good strat...

Holz

Quote from: Purple 77 on July 14, 2017, 07:22:28 PM
Heh, I used to think the 'all rucks from one club' was a good strat...

If you had of got pedo it would have worked.

Goldy preuss daw durdin nielson it would take 5 injuries for me to go oop

iZander

Quote from: Holz on July 16, 2017, 10:09:43 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 14, 2017, 07:22:28 PM
Heh, I used to think the 'all rucks from one club' was a good strat...

If you had of got pedo it would have worked.

Goldy preuss daw durdin nielson it would take 5 injuries for me to go oop
Pedo wasnt a ruck so it wouldnt of worked :P

Purple 77

Quote from: iZander on July 16, 2017, 10:16:02 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 16, 2017, 10:09:43 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 14, 2017, 07:22:28 PM
Heh, I used to think the 'all rucks from one club' was a good strat...

If you had of got pedo it would have worked.

Goldy preuss daw durdin nielson it would take 5 injuries for me to go oop
Pedo wasnt a ruck so it wouldnt of worked :P

Correct

Adamant

Quote from: Purple 77 on July 16, 2017, 10:39:13 PM
Quote from: iZander on July 16, 2017, 10:16:02 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 16, 2017, 10:09:43 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 14, 2017, 07:22:28 PM
Heh, I used to think the 'all rucks from one club' was a good strat...

If you had of got pedo it would have worked.

Goldy preuss daw durdin nielson it would take 5 injuries for me to go oop
Pedo wasnt a ruck so it wouldnt of worked :P

Correct

He will be next year though. :D

Purple 77

Quote from: Adamant on July 16, 2017, 10:40:34 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 16, 2017, 10:39:13 PM
Quote from: iZander on July 16, 2017, 10:16:02 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 16, 2017, 10:09:43 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 14, 2017, 07:22:28 PM
Heh, I used to think the 'all rucks from one club' was a good strat...

If you had of got pedo it would have worked.

Goldy preuss daw durdin nielson it would take 5 injuries for me to go oop
Pedo wasnt a ruck so it wouldnt of worked :P

Correct

He will be next year though. :D

Ah! But you assume there is a next year  :-X gut feel is that he will be 'retired' :(

kilbluff1985