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All 800 players already have a value attached to them with the current cap, no difference really

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: ossie85 on July 28, 2016, 02:31:58 PM

All 800 players already have a value attached to them with the current cap, no difference really

Practically, it isn't

Looking at a players SC total points and factoring it in to a trade decision takes 10 seconds. Looking at a players $ value, and then what you need to add on top (which can change through counter offers and other bidders) requires a tad more work

I know we're just discussing the idea, but I think you might need to provide a lot more info in terms of how it will work and look overall, how it impacts each team and all the possible scenarios/objections that can arise and how they would be ruled. You'd basically need to present an entire business plan for something this big lol

meow meow

TBH my cap that I posted last year was far superior to the current model and it got squashed immediately. Jobe shouldn't be free next season but he shouldn't cost full 2015 average either. Then there's Sandi who'll cost next to nothing. Griffen cheap as hell. Under my cap I'd have to chop players but currently I can add more depth! I'm going to get 40 players who play AFL every week and choke the lowly clubs in protest of the administration not just implementing a better version of something that already exists.

Holz

Quote from: meow meow on July 28, 2016, 03:00:27 PM
TBH my cap that I posted last year was far superior to the current model and it got squashed immediately. Jobe shouldn't be free next season but he shouldn't cost full 2015 average either. Then there's Sandi who'll cost next to nothing. Griffen cheap as hell. Under my cap I'd have to chop players but currently I can add more depth! I'm going to get 40 players who play AFL every week and choke the lowly clubs in protest of the administration not just implementing a better version of something that already exists.

For the record if there is a cap i think yours was the best but with slightly different numbers.

Yarran and Roughy should not count as zero.

meow meow

The current state of the comp isn't bad. NDT could make finals this year so that proves that even the showertest list in the world could contend within 3 seasons with managers who are good at the game. Yes Cairo are shower but if they follow NDT and do good work instead of pinning their hopes on injury prone players all the time they'll bounce back in no time.

Holz

Quote from: meow meow on July 28, 2016, 03:23:43 PM
The current state of the comp isn't bad. NDT could make finals this year so that proves that even the showertest list in the world could contend within 3 seasons with managers who are good at the game. Yes Cairo are shower but if they follow NDT and do good work instead of pinning their hopes on injury prone players all the time they'll bounce back in no time.

Cairo is fine.

they dont even have a bad list, add Beams, Higgins, Brodie to that squad and they stand a good chance of knocking off some finals teams.

Just as long as they dont draft a Tom Boyd they will bounce back as all teams have.

here is the 2013 ladder. So in 3 years time look at the changes. Basically besides Mexico at the top there hasnt been any dominate team. Beijing, Pacific, NDT all look very promising. PNL Dublin shot up to the top quickly and have both slipped abit. Moscow, Cairo, Capetwon have all fallen

1   Mexico City Suns   2592   2246   16   1   115.41
2   Buenos Aires Armadillos   2532   2223   13   4   113.90
3   Moscow Spetsnaz   2405   2275   13   4   105.71
4   Sao Paulo Pumas   2567   2291   12   5   112.05
5   Cairo Sands   2373   2196   12   5   108.06
6   Cape Town Cobras   2324   2277   11   6   102.06
7   Berlin Brewers   2288   2172   10   7   105.34
8   Toronto Wolves   2384   2302   10   7   103.56
9   Dublin Destroyers   2354   2328   10   7   101.12
10   London Royals   2301   2252   9   8   102.18
11   New York Revolution   2265   2293   8   9   98.78
12   Seoul Magpies   2246   2192   7   10   102.46
13   Paris Nice Lyon Reindeers   2279   2302   6   11   99.00
14   Tokyo Samurai   2259   2301   5   12   98.17
15   New Delhi Tigers   1941   2287   4   13   84.87
16   Pacific Islanders   1967   2333   3   14   84.31
17   Beijing Thunder   1873   2230   2   15   83.99
18   Wellington Warriors   1903   2353   2   15   80.88

RaisyDaisy

AK and I got New York and turned it into a finalist straight away  8)

Nearly every team has potential to play finals next year if the coaches correctly identify their areas to improve, what/how to use their bargaining chips etc


Holz

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 28, 2016, 03:39:57 PM
AK and I got New York and turned it into a finalist straight away  8)

Nearly every team has potential to play finals next year if the coaches correctly identify their areas to improve, what/how to use their bargaining chips etc

Dublin won the flag the year after this.

PNL went from 13th to 5th



meow meow

Cairo will whoop me next year since I've been using them as an example of a bottom team.

Purple 77

Quote from: meow meow on July 28, 2016, 03:00:27 PM
TBH my cap that I posted last year was far superior to the current model and it got squashed immediately. Jobe shouldn't be free next season but he shouldn't cost full 2015 average either. Then there's Sandi who'll cost next to nothing. Griffen cheap as hell. Under my cap I'd have to chop players but currently I can add more depth! I'm going to get 40 players who play AFL every week and choke the lowly clubs in protest of the administration not just implementing a better version of something that already exists.

You brought the idea up after we finished voting on it... so we weren't going to implement it in the 2016 season.

Besides, because the last years' stats now come from my spreadsheets, I've been planning to see what that implementation would look like, because I could get behind it.

Don't imply that I didn't implement it last year because "I just didn't want to"  :-\

meow meow

Not having a go at you Purps, just saying that between you and Ossie sometimes you should rule with an iron fist and just make changes without the need for a vote because you're wonderful admins who only act in the best interests of the comp. It wasn't a new rule, it was a tweak to an existing rule that simply made it more effective.

ossie85

Quote from: meow meow on July 28, 2016, 05:29:03 PM
Not having a go at you Purps, just saying that between you and Ossie sometimes you should rule with an iron fist and just make changes without the need for a vote because you're wonderful admins who only act in the best interests of the comp. It wasn't a new rule, it was a tweak to an existing rule that simply made it more effective.

Damn straight, do as we say peasants

Holz

Quote from: ossie85 on July 28, 2016, 05:47:45 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 28, 2016, 05:29:03 PM
Not having a go at you Purps, just saying that between you and Ossie sometimes you should rule with an iron fist and just make changes without the need for a vote because you're wonderful admins who only act in the best interests of the comp. It wasn't a new rule, it was a tweak to an existing rule that simply made it more effective.

Damn straight, do as we say peasants

I have been calling out for the admins to have dictator power, if it came into play i would be extremely happy. I wouldnt complain with the decisions at all.


Torpedo10

Quote from: Holz on July 28, 2016, 05:50:21 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 28, 2016, 05:47:45 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 28, 2016, 05:29:03 PM
Not having a go at you Purps, just saying that between you and Ossie sometimes you should rule with an iron fist and just make changes without the need for a vote because you're wonderful admins who only act in the best interests of the comp. It wasn't a new rule, it was a tweak to an existing rule that simply made it more effective.

Damn straight, do as we say peasants

I have been calling out for the admins to have dictator power, if it came into play i would be extremely happy. I wouldnt complain with the decisions at all.

Just quoting this for when it happens.

meow meow

Go on admin(s), bring in a rule (weather!) without a vote and see how it goes!