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Started by ossie85, August 06, 2013, 12:47:24 PM

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meow meow

Christchurch before:

D: Burgoyne, Yarran, Dempster, Golby, Picken, Patfull, Buntine, Z.Jones, N.Smith, Roberton, Armstrong, White, D.Morris
M: Sloane, Hartlett, Whitfield, T.Adams, Lester, Freeman, Colyer, Armfield
R: Minson, H.McIntosh, Lowden, Hannath, Downie, King
F: Roughead, Devon, Gunston, Stringer, Jaksch, Kennedy-Harris, Daw, Sicily

Picks: 7, 20, 36, 37, 43


Christchurch after:

D: Dempster, Picken, Patfull, Buntine, Maguire, Roberton, Cameron, Armstrong, White
C: Gibbs, Hartlett, Shuey, S.Mitchell, M.Boyd, Scully, Lester, C. Smith, Hrovat, Freeman
R: Minson, Sandilands, McKernan, King
F: Zorko, Elliott, B.Reid, Stringer, Garlett, Green, Dickson, Sicily

Picks: 8, 16, 19, 20, 21, 22, 24, 25

Memphistopheles

Quote from: meow meow on November 11, 2014, 01:44:58 PM
Christchurch before:

D: Burgoyne, Yarran, Dempster, Golby, Picken, Patfull, Buntine, Z.Jones, N.Smith, Roberton, Armstrong, White, D.Morris
M: Sloane, Hartlett, Whitfield, T.Adams, Lester, Freeman, Colyer, Armfield
R: Minson, H.McIntosh, Lowden, Hannath, Downie, King
F: Roughead, Devon, Gunston, Stringer, Jaksch, Kennedy-Harris, Daw, Sicily

Picks: 7, 20, 36, 37, 43


Christchurch after:

D: Dempster, Picken, Patfull, Buntine, Maguire, Roberton, Cameron, Armstrong, White
C: Gibbs, Hartlett, Shuey, S.Mitchell, M.Boyd, Scully, Lester, C. Smith, Hrovat, Freeman
R: Minson, Sandilands, McKernan, King
F: Zorko, Elliott, B.Reid, Stringer, Garlett, Green, Dickson, Sicily

Picks: 8, 16, 19, 20, 21, 22, 24, 25

I like the before team better to be honest. The picks could sway things your way in the future though. Good draft and you're dominating the second round.

Ricochet

Yeh in terms of starting XV I like the first one slightly better also. But those draft pick will counter the those old pricks like Boyd, Mitchell and Sandi

Jukes

2014 - best XV that was playing then four back-ups
D: Shaw, Seedsman, Dunn, Vlastuin, Docherty, May, Frawley, Hombsch
M: Ward, Heppell, O'Meara, Griffen, Josh Thomas, Simpkin, Sheed, Ellard, Colquhoun
R: Naitanui, Clarke, Ceglar
F: Martin, Monfries, Vickery, Jenkins, May, Burbury, Lee, Tapscott (lol)

2015, add picks 14 and 17
D: McDonald, Vlastuin, Docherty, Seedsman, Dunn, Frawley, May, Hombsch
M: Ward, Heppell, O'Meara, Greenwood, Bastinac, Armitage, Josh Thomas, Sheed, Simpkin, Ellard
R: Naitanui, Gault
F: Gray, Monfries, Daniher, Hogan, Vickery, Ballantyne, Jenkins, Frawley

So improved immediate depth (i.e. utilities and primary back-ups) while maintaining a strong yet balanced best XV. Forward line definitely looks better, will need to draft a ruck though for sure. Lots of gun futures who could get good this season.

Ricochet

NDT's 2014 Side

DEF Mullett, Webster, Langford, Talia Cheney, Stratton, Rutten
MIDS Montagna, Bastinac, Gaff, Greene, Duncan, Wellingham MWhite, Savage, Melksham
RUCK Hampson Nankervis
FWD Podsiadly, JMurdoch, Giansiracusa, LMcCarthy Dell'Olio, DGarlett




NDT's 2014 Side

DEF Mullett, Webster, JImpey, SDarley DTalia, ZWilliams, Cheney
MIDS Coniglio, Masten, Gaff, Conca, Trengove, Curren Seb Ross, Kerridge, NRobertson
RUCK Nicholls Warnock, Gorringe, Hannath, Nankervis
FWD ZClarke(fwd/ruck), JDarling, BGriffiths, KStevens JWhite, Apeness, JGrant, BJohnson, LMcCarthy

Mids are younger and slightly weaker but fwd line and ruck line are looking much much better
Also add in N3 and N4 to that side

meow meow

Quote from: Ricochet on November 11, 2014, 02:00:40 PM
Yeh in terms of starting XV I like the first one slightly better also. But those draft pick will counter the those old pricks like Boyd, Mitchell and Sandi

I've only added one old prick. Sandi for Hmac, Mitchell for Burgoyne is a draw. Boyd for Adams is basically the only one, but when Boyd is gone Freeman will be gun so I don't mind doing that for +25ppg

Burgoyne > Picken -25
Yarran > Patfull -20
Sloane > Gibbs - 10
Whitfield > Shuey +20
Adams > Boyd +25
Lester > Mitchell +15, JS
HMac > Sandi +30
Roughy > Zorko +5
Devon > Elliott -5
Gunston > Reid -10

Best XV improves by 25. Got a showerload of extra picks, way better mid and forward cover, worse def cover.

Memphistopheles

Quote from: Ricochet on November 11, 2014, 02:30:14 PM
NDT's 2014 Side

DEF Mullett, Webster, Langford, Talia Cheney, Stratton, Rutten
MIDS Montagna, Bastinac, Gaff, Greene, Duncan, Wellingham MWhite, Savage, Melksham
RUCK Hampson Nankervis
FWD Podsiadly, JMurdoch, Giansiracusa, LMcCarthy Dell'Olio, DGarlett




NDT's 2014 Side

DEF Mullett, Webster, JImpey, SDarley DTalia, ZWilliams, Cheney
MIDS Coniglio, Masten, Gaff, Conca, Trengove, Curren Seb Ross, Kerridge, NRobertson
RUCK Nicholls Warnock, Gorringe, Hannath, Nankervis
FWD ZClarke(fwd/ruck), JDarling, BGriffiths, KStevens JWhite, Apeness, JGrant, BJohnson, LMcCarthy

Mids are younger and slightly weaker but fwd line and ruck line are looking much much better
Also add in N3 and N4 to that side

Hard to tell which team is better.

Your forward line and has definitely improved but I'm not sure about the other lines.

Ricochet

Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 11, 2014, 04:05:17 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 11, 2014, 02:30:14 PM
NDT's 2014 Side

DEF Mullett, Webster, Langford, Talia Cheney, Stratton, Rutten
MIDS Montagna, Bastinac, Gaff, Greene, Duncan, Wellingham MWhite, Savage, Melksham
RUCK Hampson Nankervis
FWD Podsiadly, JMurdoch, Giansiracusa, LMcCarthy Dell'Olio, DGarlett




NDT's 2014 Side

DEF Mullett, Webster, JImpey, SDarley DTalia, ZWilliams, Cheney
MIDS Coniglio, Masten, Gaff, Conca, Trengove, Curren Seb Ross, Kerridge, NRobertson
RUCK Nicholls Warnock, Gorringe, Hannath, Nankervis
FWD ZClarke(fwd/ruck), JDarling, BGriffiths, KStevens JWhite, Apeness, JGrant, BJohnson, LMcCarthy

Mids are younger and slightly weaker but fwd line and ruck line are looking much much better
Also add in N3 and N4 to that side

Hard to tell which team is better.

Your forward line and has definitely improved but I'm not sure about the other lines.
Yeh fwds are a a massive improvement.
As is the ruckline.
Defence has only lost Langford as a starter and replaced by Impey.
Mids have taken a step back but see the differences as:
Conigs = Greene
Masten = Bastinac
Trengove > Montags (Trengove has long term value)
Conca < Duncan (for next year, a couple of years down the track maybe not so much)
Curren/Kerridge/Ross > Wellingham

Master Q

Hopefully you draft some decent defenders with that backline Rico  :-X

Ricochet

Quote from: Master Q on November 11, 2014, 05:21:56 PM
Hopefully you draft some decent defenders with that backline Rico  :-X
Mullett to bounce back to that 80ish ave from last year, Webster to breakout after teasing us this year, Impey will explode in his second year, and ZDawson to break out in his 9th season ;)

Vinny

Well, I don't know how other people see our rebuild. But it has been that great to be completely honest but decent given the currency we had.

We were unable to get a ruck which was the main problem.

But have dramatically increased the depth. We still lack stars but we feel the currency of numerous players will increase enough for us to have better trading power next season which is somewhat the plan.

Been a dramatic turn-over, will be delisting close to 20 players.

BEST XV:

Defence: S.Gilbert, T.Chaplin, S.Atley, S.Biggs.
Midfield: T.Adams, B.Hill, M.Crouch, M.Wallis.
Ruck: J.Redden
Forward: J.Schulz, T.Membrey, L.Thomas, J.Neade.
Utility: A.Brayshaw, L.Jong.

RESERVES:

Defence: C.Newman, E.Wood, T.Goldsack, J.Clarke, X.Richards,T.Cutler, D.Morris, D.Terlich, J.Ramsay.
Midfield: N.Foley, B.Acres, N.Graham, J.Melksham, B.Newton, J.McKenzie, S.Lemmens, J.Harmes.
Ruck: N/A
Forward: L.Jones, J.Tutt, R.Bewick, P.Karnezis, D.Armfield, J.Butcher, N.Wilson, J.Freeman, M.Close, P.Stewart.

PLUS: N7, N15, N41.

Gonna be a tough year next season but hopefully we some improvement from most of the young players.

Basically every single player is a new recruit except: Redden, Schulz, Newman, Wood, Cutler, Ramsay, Stewart, Freeman, McKenzie, Harmes.

We have a lot of players that we think will increase in value next year which will open up our options a bit.

Not overly happy but satisfied I guess.

Toga

Think you've done a pretty great job vin considering what you had :)

Oooh you think you're gonna get Brayshaw do ya? ;)

Vinny

Quote from: Toga on November 11, 2014, 05:55:04 PM
Think you've done a pretty great job vin considering what you had :)

Oooh you think you're gonna get Brayshaw do ya? ;)
Haha thanks man.

We'll be happy either way! 8)

kilbluff1985

Quote from: Toga on November 11, 2014, 05:55:04 PM
Oooh you think you're gonna get Brayshaw do ya? ;)

lol wtf

Memphistopheles