WXV Discussion

[meow meow]

The greater the fish you poach, the more disadvantaged you'd be. If Pacific pay Bont the million he's worth, I'd have to give myself a salary cap of 500K less that every other team in the comp to grab him.

Gibbs @ 700K + Stringer @ 650K + Ryan Lester @ 80K + Tory Dickson @ 80K vs Bont @ 1.5 Million? Keep him!

[Torpedo10]

But that's a classic risk versus reward scenario.

One would argue that it would be better to have the masses than that couple of guns. That would be the main thing in this sort of rule change.

I personally like the idea of locking in a "Salary Cap" First, and then say we have to allocate amounts/years to commit to our players and then work from there with the Poaching idea.

[Torpedo10]

Also, what happens if someone trades away their first rounder?  ;)
Best idea would be to allocate a certain Price level, and dedicate a number of players to that level which would be sacrificed in the result of a poach?

[Purple 77]

I'd assume, like the AFL, they'd be a poaching period (i.e. Free Agency) before the trade period?

[Holz]

Perfect plan sell a star for 2 solid players then poach them next year.

[meow meow]

Identifying a player's initial value will be nearly impossible. Sure, you could base it on prior averages but that doesn't cover everything.

[Nige]

Cairo flowered themselves by giving me Blakely for nothing.

I still regret this.  :(

[RaisyDaisy]

How do you maintain a full list of 40 and rookies, poach players and keep it all under the cap?

There would be heaps of scenarios where teams have poached a few players or lost a few and your either under the cap but don't have a full list (which is required) or vice versa

Unless you end up trading equal value overall for equal value, you're going to have less or more than 40 on the list, which means some teams will have to have 40+ while some under 40

Almost sounds like a completely new XV comp needs to be created to roll this out from the beginning, because a change like this is going to undo a lot of hard work from previous years for all of us

[meow meow]

Cairo flowered themselves by giving me Blakely for nothing.

I still regret this.  :(

You've got picks 1 and 20 don't you? Blakely is/will be better than Will Brodie so you'd need to include the 2nd rounder too.

[Holz]

Cairo flowered themselves by giving me Blakely for nothing.

I still regret this.  :(

Thats nothing i gave away neale for nothing. Imagine dublin with neale thats game over

[Levi434]

How do you maintain a full list of 40 and rookies, poach players and keep it all under the cap?

There would be heaps of scenarios where teams have poached a few players or lost a few and your either under the cap but don't have a full list (which is required) or vice versa

Unless you end up trading equal value overall for equal value, you're going to have less or more than 40 on the list, which means some teams will have to have 40+ while some under 40

Almost sounds like a completely new XV comp needs to be created to roll this out from the beginning, because a change like this is going to undo a lot of hard work from previous years for all of us

How about we have a hard cap then?

So lets say the Salary Cap is $10mil.

If you go at all over you lose your 1st round pick. Then for each $250,000 after that you lose another draft pick.

Basically then there is a punishment for going over? But teams may still weigh up if going over is worth it.

With this though I could see people trading away all their assets for a shot at the cup and not worry about the future. Or just quit after they win.

[My Chumps]

How do you maintain a full list of 40 and rookies, poach players and keep it all under the cap?

There would be heaps of scenarios where teams have poached a few players or lost a few and your either under the cap but don't have a full list (which is required) or vice versa

Unless you end up trading equal value overall for equal value, you're going to have less or more than 40 on the list, which means some teams will have to have 40+ while some under 40

Almost sounds like a completely new XV comp needs to be created to roll this out from the beginning, because a change like this is going to undo a lot of hard work from previous years for all of us

How about we have a hard cap then?

So lets say the Salary Cap is $10mil.

If you go at all over you lose your 1st round pick. Then for each $250,000 after that you lose another draft pick.

Basically then there is a punishment for going over? But teams may still weigh up if going over is worth it.

With this though I could see people trading away all their assets for a shot at the cup and not worry about the future. Or just quit after they win.

Then you'd just trade away all your picks :P

[Hellopplz]

I'm just reading this all, will comment in good time when I'm not too busy thinking about data stuff :P.

[Holz]

How do you maintain a full list of 40 and rookies, poach players and keep it all under the cap?

There would be heaps of scenarios where teams have poached a few players or lost a few and your either under the cap but don't have a full list (which is required) or vice versa

Unless you end up trading equal value overall for equal value, you're going to have less or more than 40 on the list, which means some teams will have to have 40+ while some under 40

Almost sounds like a completely new XV comp needs to be created to roll this out from the beginning, because a change like this is going to undo a lot of hard work from previous years for all of us

How about we have a hard cap then?

So lets say the Salary Cap is $10mil.

If you go at all over you lose your 1st round pick. Then for each $250,000 after that you lose another draft pick.

Basically then there is a punishment for going over? But teams may still weigh up if going over is worth it.

With this though I could see people trading away all their assets for a shot at the cup and not worry about the future. Or just quit after they win.

Then you'd just trade away all your picks :P

I think the robbing period is before the trade period.

[Holz]

Just saw Dustin Martin's heat map, possible D/M?

:P

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-07-26/the-stats-files-is-dustin-martin-doing-enough-damage