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Started by ossie85, August 06, 2013, 12:47:24 PM

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RaisyDaisy


meow meow

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 11, 2016, 08:57:38 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 11, 2016, 08:13:02 PM
Gibbs > Ablett

Pick 12 > McKernan :P

Yet if I traded McKernan for Gresham (WXV pick 12) it would probably pass. AFL pick 12 Curnow has set the world on fire so far too.

My Chumps

Quote from: meow meow on July 11, 2016, 09:03:36 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 11, 2016, 08:57:38 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 11, 2016, 08:13:02 PM
Gibbs > Ablett

Pick 12 > McKernan :P

Yet if I traded McKernan for Gresham (WXV pick 12) it would probably pass.
What? Show of hands who would pass that trade and we'll know to discount your votes for the upcoming period.

Nige

Apologies for the delay in the end of round stuff, was away all weekend at a house party and still kinda catching up on news/fanatasy happenings. Still dead tired so I reckon I might only get Idol, RS and TOTW done tomorrow when my brain is functioning haha.

ossie85

Number of times each side has made the finals (not including this year)

Finals   #
Mexico City   4
Moscow   4
Buenos Aires   3
Cape Town   3
Sao Paulo   3
Toronto   3
Berlin   2
Dublin   2
PNL   2
Beijing   1
Cairo   1
Christchurch   1
New York   1
Pacific   1
Wellington   1
London   0
New Delhi   0
Rio de Janeiro   0
Seoul   0
Tokyo   0

So Mexico City will be the only club to be in the finals all 5 years

Rio de Janeiro is guaranteed, while Seoul and New Delhi are huge chances to break the duck this year.

Leaving a lot of pressure on London and Tokyo, who could be the only teams to have never made the finals soon. Noting either team has never really been 'cellar' dwellers either

Purple 77

Nice stat!

I still find it interesting Moscow has lost a semi-final every single year

ossie85

Quote from: Purple 77 on July 25, 2016, 10:37:04 AM
Nice stat!

I still find it interesting Moscow has lost a semi-final every single year

What about this one - Rory Sloane has been BOG (Finals Champion Medal) in a Qualifying Final in each of the last 3 years

Purple 77

Quote from: ossie85 on July 25, 2016, 10:49:23 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 25, 2016, 10:37:04 AM
Nice stat!

I still find it interesting Moscow has lost a semi-final every single year

What about this one - Rory Sloane has been BOG (Finals Champion Medal) in a Qualifying Final in each of the last 3 years

... how do you record these stats?! Blows my mind...

Ricochet

Quote from: Purple 77 on July 25, 2016, 10:52:14 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 25, 2016, 10:49:23 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 25, 2016, 10:37:04 AM
Nice stat!

I still find it interesting Moscow has lost a semi-final every single year

What about this one - Rory Sloane has been BOG (Finals Champion Medal) in a Qualifying Final in each of the last 3 years

... how do you record these stats?! Blows my mind...
This ^

Holz

Quote from: Purple 77 on July 25, 2016, 10:52:14 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 25, 2016, 10:49:23 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 25, 2016, 10:37:04 AM
Nice stat!

I still find it interesting Moscow has lost a semi-final every single year

What about this one - Rory Sloane has been BOG (Finals Champion Medal) in a Qualifying Final in each of the last 3 years

... how do you record these stats?! Blows my mind...

thats is one of the most amazing stats i have heard. To be in 3 straight qualifying finals for 2 different teams is pretty unique but to be best on ground.

he will get another shot this year and playing Brisbane at home gezz he would be a good shot to go 4. Selwood v essendon at home will give him a big chalenge though.

Levi434

A very interesting week this one! A clash to decide the top of the table between Dublin and Mexico.

If Dublin win they secure top spot, if Mexico win they secure top spot. Or do they? However, top spot isn't all that's on the line in this match enter.......The top 3 situation:



IF Mexico wins by a bit and Rio win by plenty. THEN Rio finish 1st, Mexico 2nd.

IF Mexico wins and Rio wins by a bit THEN Mexico 1st, Dublin 2nd.

IF Dublin win by any margin and Rio win. THEN Dublin 1st and Rio 2nd.

IF Rio loses at all THEN They have to travel to the loser of the Mexico/Dublin game in Week 1 of finals.


Rio have the rare chance at finishing top of the seniors and the reserves. However it seems almost impossible.

I'd say the most likely scenarios are anything but the first one 8)

upthemaidens

Should WXV do away with percentage to form the ladder?  And just use points scored instead.

I understand that we want to stay as close to the AFL as possible, but unlike the AFL, a WXV club has no control over points scored against them.
   
A team that doesn't get scored against much,  will already get an advantage of likely winning more games during the season.
     Should they also get the double bonus of a better percentage on top of that as well?

...Figured it's something worth bringing up.  If it's been discussed before then please disregard.

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: upthemaidens on July 26, 2016, 12:06:14 PM
Should WXV do away with percentage to form the ladder?  And just use points scored instead.

I understand that we want to stay as close to the AFL as possible, but unlike the AFL, a WXV club has no control over points scored against them.
   
A team that doesn't get scored against much,  will already get an advantage of likely winning more games during the season.
     Should they also get the double bonus of a better percentage on top of that as well?

...Figured it's something worth bringing up.  If it's been discussed before then please disregard.

It's a valid argument

I think sometimes we take the "close to AFL as possible" thing a bit too far. We can't be like the AFL in every aspect, and we're not, but I agree that % has no real significance in this league as we cannot control our defence so to speak

That being said, we could end up in a position where a team that finished 10-6 for example which would have them 6th, ends up finishing 9th because another team scored more overall

It's a tricky situation with pro's and con's for both sides of the argument

GoLions

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 26, 2016, 12:19:32 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on July 26, 2016, 12:06:14 PM
Should WXV do away with percentage to form the ladder?  And just use points scored instead.

I understand that we want to stay as close to the AFL as possible, but unlike the AFL, a WXV club has no control over points scored against them.
   
A team that doesn't get scored against much,  will already get an advantage of likely winning more games during the season.
     Should they also get the double bonus of a better percentage on top of that as well?

...Figured it's something worth bringing up.  If it's been discussed before then please disregard.

It's a valid argument

I think sometimes we take the "close to AFL as possible" thing a bit too far. We can't be like the AFL in every aspect, and we're not, but I agree that % has no real significance in this league as we cannot control our defence so to speak

That being said, we could end up in a position where a team that finished 10-6 for example which would have them 6th, ends up finishing 9th because another team scored more overall

It's a tricky situation with pro's and con's for both sides of the argument
And then the other side of that being that a team finishes 9th on %, but if on points scored would have gone up to 6th and had a home final. It's an interesting thing to discuss, I kinda like the % though, but can see why others might prefer it on points.

Holz

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 26, 2016, 12:19:32 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on July 26, 2016, 12:06:14 PM
Should WXV do away with percentage to form the ladder?  And just use points scored instead.

I understand that we want to stay as close to the AFL as possible, but unlike the AFL, a WXV club has no control over points scored against them.
   
A team that doesn't get scored against much,  will already get an advantage of likely winning more games during the season.
     Should they also get the double bonus of a better percentage on top of that as well?

...Figured it's something worth bringing up.  If it's been discussed before then please disregard.

It's a valid argument

I think sometimes we take the "close to AFL as possible" thing a bit too far. We can't be like the AFL in every aspect, and we're not, but I agree that % has no real significance in this league as we cannot control our defence so to speak

That being said, we could end up in a position where a team that finished 10-6 for example which would have them 6th, ends up finishing 9th because another team scored more overall

It's a tricky situation with pro's and con's for both sides of the argument

Points for is far more fair. We cant control what other teams do so putting up big scores yourslef should be the way to go. If mexico finished on equal wins and a lower percentage but more point scored then I would feel i dont really deserve the minor premiership.

There is no point trying to replicate the afl in every point as above we cant control the opponent scoring. If you want to be more afl realistic then other teams voting on trades is far far worse in terms of resembling the AFL.