Triple J hottest 100

[Mailman the 2nd]

No, Triple J has a minimum quota of 40% Australian music, which is significantly higher than any other major radio station.

There a lot worse things you're being taxed for than Triple J lol.

There are hundreds of clones of "Australian rock" radio stations everywhere, not to mention Triple J is the only reason people listened to rock bands such as Silverchair, Grinspoon and various other genres (making his statement completely rubbish)

He doesn't use any facts, he's just mad and as a result his article is poorly written at best, though I'm not surprised a website called "100% Rock" would think otherwise

[Ziplock]

Yep. Didn't realise Triple J had to be a pub rock station.

As soon as you write, "I know I'm not the target audience..." you should just shut up and stop

If the 2 of you actually understood (and probably even read) what he said then you are both way off.  He is not saying that JJJ needs to be a pub rock station - it needs to be a station to support local AUSTRALIAN music of all genres

He is saying that JJJ is just another commercial radio station catering to record labels whims - which is being funded by the Australian Taxpayer (you and me)

Well, that was flowering harsh valk.

Firstly, he literally says 'turned its back on Oz pub rock', the article is an argument for Triple J to 'play a quality rock song[s  }'.
'I have been inspired by your lack of respect and support of Oz pub rock.'. So yeah, it's an article saying triple J should play more/ mostly pub rock.

The large portion of music on triple J is Australian, when I say large portion, it's not the majority, but we're talking more than 40%, when they're only legislated to play more than 25%.

I love how you say the article makes the argument that it should 'support local AUSTRALIAN music of all genres', when the article itself tears shreds off skip-hop '(sorry I just threw up a bit in my mouth)', which is by definition an Australian genre. Ftr, I don't like skip-hop, most of it's pretty average at best, but I personally don't hear a large proportion of it on triple J.

Basically, the article is a massive whinge piece saying 'play the genre of australian music that I like, but don't play the australian genres that I dislike'

You know what? I'll give serious consideration to articles like these when they aren't so clearly emotionally biased, and preferably when they can back up statistical statements they make, with like, you know, actual  statistics. It's all well and good to say that the majority of the music are from major international record label companies, but frankly statements like that are worth flowering squat unless you can back them up.

[Ziplock]

ftr, I actually only started listening to triple J a fair bit maybe 6-8 months ago... I've always been more of a classic rock fan myself, but I was struggling to identify with my friends' choice in music, so kind of got into it :P

[Nails]

He talks about wide diverse local selections (I read it)

But he really only gives a flower about oz pub rock

But, if you

[Ziplock]

He talks about wide diverse local selections (I read it)

But he really only gives a flower about oz pub rock

But, if you

classic fail ff quotes.

oh yeah, he does say he wants all genres shown, but then he clearly contradicts himself by slagging off on several genres, and expressly wants it to be iconic oz pub rock.

[upthemaidens]

    Lots of talk about "pub rock",, im sorry is it 1978?   Triple J will/do play a more varied range of music genres than any other mainstream radio station.  If there was any actual decent "Pub Rock" music being made, they would play it.  But there isnt, why? because thats not popular at the moment.  Its the general public that drive the market, not the bands,record labels or radio stations.

   I like Cold chisel, the Oils, Acdc etc. etc.  but if I want to hear my record collection, I will play my record collection.  I listen to radio stations to hear majority of newer music, not the same crap that I already own and have heard 100 times..

   If you dont like what a radio station plays, then (wait for it)...  dont listen to it... :P

[Ziplock]

Nearly 2 million people (in the 5 major cities) listen to triple J weekly, which is pretty solid... it has a clear age demographic for a younger audience, because that's the demographic that mainly drives interest in new music, as older demographics (to generalise), prefer to listen to music from their generation (which is how you get monikers like 'dad rock'), or I guess in this case 'oz pub rock'.

So they're playing music that large proportions of youth enjoy, which is driven by the large numbers of youth creating music that they're interested in.

If you get my point anyway.

[Master Q]

I don't listen to Triple J nor did I listen to the Top 100, but 40% Aussie music seems kinda low to me. I know that's irrelevant, just wanted to add my 2 cents  :P

[Ziplock]

I don't listen to Triple J nor did I listen to the Top 100, but 40% Aussie music seems kinda low to me. I know that's irrelevant, just wanted to add my 2 cents  :P

I think it was 40% of the hottest 100 was australian, and like 47% of all play time.

Which kind of makes sense for new music... if you consider the size of countries like the US/Uk (where most of the rest of the music comes from), and the subsequent number of new musicians they're churning it, statistically speaking, 47% is actually pretty high :P

[BratPack]

I didn't say anything about them having to do "Pub Rock" and I'll thank you for not putting words in my mouth.

My point was when JJJ started they were edgy, there were the alternative station for any person who sick of the commercialised crap that any other the networks played. Then around 2000 (truthfully around 1998 but just to level it off) they....say it with me, Sold Out. Now they're every representation of what they hated, a commercial network, the 40% quota is irrelevant.

[upthemaidens]

I don't listen to Triple J nor did I listen to the Top 100, but 40% Aussie music seems kinda low to me. I know that's irrelevant, just wanted to add my 2 cents  :P

Theres a quota that ALL stations must play a minimum % of Aussie made music.  That doesnt mean they cant play more if they want.  Triple J would play alot more local music then Nova or MMM etc.

      ...Also if anyone wants to listen to Triple J circa 1994,  just listen to Triple M circa 2014.  Wedged inbetween the Ads you may get to hear 'Smells like teen spirit'........ again

[Ziplock]

I didn't say anything about them having to do "Pub Rock" and I'll thank you for not putting words in my mouth.

My point was when JJJ started they were edgy, there were the alternative station for any person who sick of the commercialised crap that any other the networks played. Then around 2000 (truthfully around 1998 but just to level it off) they....say it with me, Sold Out. Now they're every representation of what they hated, a commercial network, the 40% quota is irrelevant.

oh, sorry dude, I was talking about the article valk linked, not you.

I can't cast judgement for the pre-2000 era, sorry. Although, tbh, even if it's also commercialised, I do prefer triple J's commercialised crap compared to most other stations.

I don't listen to Triple J nor did I listen to the Top 100, but 40% Aussie music seems kinda low to me. I know that's irrelevant, just wanted to add my 2 cents  :P

Theres a quota that ALL stations must play a minimum % of Aussie made music.  That doesnt mean they cant play more if they want.  Triple J would play alot more local music then Nova or MMM etc.

      ...Also if anyone wants to listen to Triple J circa 1994,  just listen to Triple M circa 2014.  Wedged inbetween the Ads you may get to hear 'Smells like teen spirit'........ again

yeah, all stations have to play a % of australian music that varies from like 25% down to 5%, but triple J plays 40% min, and last year played like 47%, anyway.

[Mailman the 2nd]

You also have to note that its a self imposed minimum of 40%.

The hottest 100 is always going to be the least amount of aussie music they play, compared to during the regular days where they play something closer to 65-70%

But as maiden said, if you don't like it stop complaining

[upthemaidens]

I didn't say anything about them having to do "Pub Rock" and I'll thank you for not putting words in my mouth.

My point was when JJJ started they were edgy, there were the alternative station for any person who sick of the commercialised crap that any other the networks played. Then around 2000 (truthfully around 1998 but just to level it off) they....say it with me, Sold Out. Now they're every representation of what they hated, a commercial network, the 40% quota is irrelevant.

"edgy"  Ok well what would you like them to play thats "edgy"?  They can only play whats atually being made by artists.  The radio station didnt change in '98 , the musical landscape changed. Which inturn changed what Triple J played.
   
     If JJJ didnt change and kept playing the same things for 20+ years, then they would of turned into the very same radio station, that it was an alternative too in the 90's. They play new music, and "new" music takes more effort to absorb. Effort that older folk dont generally want to make.
    Its easier to enjoy a known tune, than a new one.  Go to a gig and see how a crowd response to a new song compared to a well worn oldie. 

  So in summary i'm suggesting that the Station didnt change.  But music and possibly Youself, was what changed...... ;)

[bomberboy0618]

This sums up Triple J for me

http://magazine.100percentrock.com/news/201401/40428

On the one hand, he has a point, but on the other hand he used the term skip-hop. Also Triple J have done a lot for bands like The Smith Street Band who many would consider pub rock. He just seems a bit jaded.

Triple J plays what they get. How are they catering to record labels all the time? Sure there's gonna be a little bit but it's not like with commercial stations that make money from selling their plays to the highest bidder.

Name another national station that has exposed as many bands in the last few years. They have the same sound as commercial stations because other stations know they have their finger on the pulse.