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[Ricochet]

Yeah, but will he be part of the midfield rotation? I just can't see it happening?
Selwood, Masten, Priddis, Rosa, Shuey, Gaff, Ellis, Sheed, Hurn etc are all in front of him.

I think they can't afford him in the middle, he'll have to stay deep forward, just like Fyfe is a natural forward and could take over from Pavlich, but they can't let him leave their midfield.

Rosa and Gaff play on wings and Ellis won't play inside. Hurn has been 'suggested' to have a midfield rotation this year but its been little more than one article. Sheed is a kid and unproven, although I agree I would see him playing inside ahead of Darling. So that leaves Selwood, Priddis, Masten, Shuey and Sheed. Clubs have 6-7+ players with midfield rotations so can easily the number of mids isn't the issue.

Fyfe started as a forward much like Darling. Now look at him, he has the ability to be one of the best midfielders in the comp. I have seen Darling from a young age and in my opinion, he also has that ability.

[_wato]

I won't argue with you mate, you know a lot more than I do, hahah.

Would love to see him play there though, could be a gun if given the opportunity.

[The_Captain]

Yeah, but will he be part of the midfield rotation? I just can't see it happening?
Selwood, Masten, Priddis, Rosa, Shuey, Gaff, Ellis, Sheed, Hurn etc are all in front of him.

I think they can't afford him in the middle, he'll have to stay deep forward, just like Fyfe is a natural forward and could take over from Pavlich, but they can't let him leave their midfield.

Rosa and Gaff play on wings and Ellis won't play inside. Hurn has been 'suggested' to have a midfield rotation this year but its been little more than one article. Sheed is a kid and unproven, although I agree I would see him playing inside ahead of Darling. So that leaves Selwood, Priddis, Masten, Shuey and Sheed. Clubs have 6-7+ players with midfield rotations so can easily the number of mids isn't the issue.

Fyfe started as a forward much like Darling. Now look at him, he has the ability to be one of the best midfielders in the comp. I have seen Darling from a young age and in my opinion, he also has that ability.

Youve missed a few blokes rico.. Wellingham and Hutchings also run through the middle. Theres already 7 ahead of darling right there. Maybe if 3 mids get injured during the season he could be a last resort.. But i think he is to valuable down forward atm, espcially with lecras not being at his best since injury and the lack of true forwards other than kennedy.

[Ricochet]

Will Wellingham play inside? Yeh I did state he's not there yet but will be in the future. Forgot about Hutchings actually. He should hopefully slot straight into Kerr's spot.

Just looking at Freo's starting 22 for comparison
Fyfe
Mundy
Barlow
Crowley
Sylvia
De Boer
Pearce
Neale

All get inside rotations with Hill, Mzungu, Walters getting rotations through the wings

[Toga]

Interesting points Rico, definitely see what you're saying!

My main reservation in comparing Fyfe to Darling in deep fwd/midfield rotations is that (from what I can see) they have quite different body types - Fyfe is pretty muscular but lean, whereas Darling seems more stocky... Doesn't look like he'd have the same running capabilities as other midfielders would!

[The_Captain]

Will Wellingham play inside? Yeh I did state he's not there yet but will be in the future. Forgot about Hutchings actually. He should hopefully slot straight into Kerr's spot.

Just looking at Freo's starting 22 for comparison
Fyfe
Mundy
Barlow
Crowley
Sylvia
De Boer
Pearce
Neale

All get inside rotations with Hill, Mzungu, Walters getting rotations through the wings

Yeah, he has done already. Our midfield has been struggling the past 2-3 seasons so Wellingham is definitely getting a gig on the ball.


Pearce and neale saw minimum time on the ball last year, didnt they? Plus Sylvia wasnt there. So would of mainly being fyfe, mundy barlow and crowley and deboer in there.

You really only need 5-6 blokes to go through the middle with the quick rotations and switches to hff. I think Selwood, Shuey, Masten, Priddis, Hutchings. Will have the majority covered, with pinch hitting in there from Sheed and Wellingham. Even Leca is more chance to venture into mids. 

[Ricochet]

Interesting points Rico, definitely see what you're saying!

My main reservation in comparing Fyfe to Darling in deep fwd/midfield rotations is that (from what I can see) they have quite different body types - Fyfe is pretty muscular but lean, whereas Darling seems more stocky... Doesn't look like he'd have the same running capabilities as other midfielders would!

http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/kim-hagdorn-west-coast-pin-hopes-on-jack-darling-experiment-and-nic-naitanui-fitness/story-fniv6fhh-1226798909997

He is almost identical in size and weight as gun Fremantle on-ball playmakers David Mundy and Nathan Fyfe.

Darling is also considered to be an elite level running machine with critical endurance to turn in the important and influential gut-running that is so pivotal to playing on the ball in the AFL.

;)

[Ricochet]

Will Wellingham play inside? Yeh I did state he's not there yet but will be in the future. Forgot about Hutchings actually. He should hopefully slot straight into Kerr's spot.

Just looking at Freo's starting 22 for comparison
Fyfe
Mundy
Barlow
Crowley
Sylvia
De Boer
Pearce
Neale

All get inside rotations with Hill, Mzungu, Walters getting rotations through the wings

Yeah, he has done already. Our midfield has been struggling the past 2-3 seasons so Wellingham is definitely getting a gig on the ball.


Pearce and neale saw minimum time on the ball last year, didnt they? Plus Sylvia wasnt there. So would of mainly being fyfe, mundy barlow and crowley and deboer in there.

You really only need 5-6 blokes to go through the middle with the quick rotations and switches to hff. I think Selwood, Shuey, Masten, Priddis, Hutchings. Will have the majority covered, with pinch hitting in there from Sheed and Wellingham. Even Leca is more chance to venture into mids.

Yeh thats this year but last year DPearce, Mzungu and Suban attended centre bounces at times because they were needed. This year they won't be with Sylvia and CPearce back.

Most teams will run their 3 starting mids, plus 2 on the bench and two half fwds or half backs through the middle.

[The_Captain]

Will Wellingham play inside? Yeh I did state he's not there yet but will be in the future. Forgot about Hutchings actually. He should hopefully slot straight into Kerr's spot.

Just looking at Freo's starting 22 for comparison
Fyfe
Mundy
Barlow
Crowley
Sylvia
De Boer
Pearce
Neale

All get inside rotations with Hill, Mzungu, Walters getting rotations through the wings

Yeah, he has done already. Our midfield has been struggling the past 2-3 seasons so Wellingham is definitely getting a gig on the ball.


Pearce and neale saw minimum time on the ball last year, didnt they? Plus Sylvia wasnt there. So would of mainly being fyfe, mundy barlow and crowley and deboer in there.

You really only need 5-6 blokes to go through the middle with the quick rotations and switches to hff. I think Selwood, Shuey, Masten, Priddis, Hutchings. Will have the majority covered, with pinch hitting in there from Sheed and Wellingham. Even Leca is more chance to venture into mids.

Yeh thats this year but last year DPearce, Mzungu and Suban attended centre bounces at times because they were needed. This year they won't be with Sylvia and CPearce back.

Most teams will run their 3 starting mids, plus 2 on the bench and two half fwds or half backs through the middle.

yeah true!! The more depth the merrier i spose! Just cant see him getting lots of time if he does, and i dont think his dt scores will change much

[Toga]

http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/kim-hagdorn-west-coast-pin-hopes-on-jack-darling-experiment-and-nic-naitanui-fitness/story-fniv6fhh-1226798909997

He is almost identical in size and weight as gun Fremantle on-ball playmakers David Mundy and Nathan Fyfe.

Darling is also considered to be an elite level running machine with critical endurance to turn in the important and influential gut-running that is so pivotal to playing on the ball in the AFL.

;)

Haha your point stands! Darling's a fair bit heavier than Fyfey though according to stats I've found? Would he need to slim down a touch?

And yeah fair enough he's considered an elite runner, just wouldn't expect it looking at him hey! They also said Matthew Richardson could have been an olympic runner for Australia (in his biography) so yeah not unheard of for big bodied guys to have a good tank.

[Ricochet]

Will Wellingham play inside? Yeh I did state he's not there yet but will be in the future. Forgot about Hutchings actually. He should hopefully slot straight into Kerr's spot.

Just looking at Freo's starting 22 for comparison
Fyfe
Mundy
Barlow
Crowley
Sylvia
De Boer
Pearce
Neale

All get inside rotations with Hill, Mzungu, Walters getting rotations through the wings

Yeah, he has done already. Our midfield has been struggling the past 2-3 seasons so Wellingham is definitely getting a gig on the ball.


Pearce and neale saw minimum time on the ball last year, didnt they? Plus Sylvia wasnt there. So would of mainly being fyfe, mundy barlow and crowley and deboer in there.

You really only need 5-6 blokes to go through the middle with the quick rotations and switches to hff. I think Selwood, Shuey, Masten, Priddis, Hutchings. Will have the majority covered, with pinch hitting in there from Sheed and Wellingham. Even Leca is more chance to venture into mids.

Yeh thats this year but last year DPearce, Mzungu and Suban attended centre bounces at times because they were needed. This year they won't be with Sylvia and CPearce back.

Most teams will run their 3 starting mids, plus 2 on the bench and two half fwds or half backs through the middle.

yeah true!! The more depth the merrier i spose! Just cant see him getting lots of time if he does, and i dont think his dt scores will change much

I agree he's not quite there yet. Will be interesting to see how Simpson uses him this year thats for sure

[Ricochet]

http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/kim-hagdorn-west-coast-pin-hopes-on-jack-darling-experiment-and-nic-naitanui-fitness/story-fniv6fhh-1226798909997

He is almost identical in size and weight as gun Fremantle on-ball playmakers David Mundy and Nathan Fyfe.

Darling is also considered to be an elite level running machine with critical endurance to turn in the important and influential gut-running that is so pivotal to playing on the ball in the AFL.

;)

Haha your point stands! Darling's a fair bit heavier than Fyfey though according to stats I've found? Would he need to slim down a touch?

And yeah fair enough he's considered an elite runner, just wouldn't expect it looking at him hey! They also said Matthew Richardson could have been an olympic runner for Australia (in his biography) so yeah not unheard of for big bodied guys to have a good tank.

Yeh man exactly. Even though I think he's 3-4 years away from being a permanent midfielder, I can see him getting a rotation soon.

On the size of Fyfe, Mundy and Darling
http://www.fremantlefc.com.au/player-profile/nathan-fyfe
Fyfe 190cm and 88kg

http://www.westcoasteagles.com.au/player-profile/jack-darling
Darling 191cm and 91kg

http://www.fremantlefc.com.au/player-profile/david-mundy
Mundy 192cm and 91kg

[Noz]

Wingard will break out and win the brownlow medal. Leave him out at your own risk.

[T Dog]

Forgot about Hutchings actually. He should hopefully slot straight into Kerr's spot.

Just this bit Ric....Rd1 starter?

[Ricochet]

Forgot about Hutchings actually. He should hopefully slot straight into Kerr's spot.

Just this bit Ric....Rd1 starter?

From what I have heard yes. Watched him dominate the WAFL grand final last year and had a solid year at that level when he played. I would speak to Ele or luvfooty though, they might know more.