WXV 2014 Rule Changes: Open Forum

Started by ossie85, December 16, 2013, 12:43:08 PM

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DazBurg

Quote from: ossie85 on February 22, 2014, 08:33:09 AM

10 coaches have voted, and the Substitute rule now has a 9-1 record - enough to get it approved!

More detail on Substitute rule:

- Coaches choose before the round starts whether they want to use it or not
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- If they use it, any player who starts with a green vest, or is red vested in the first half, will be replaced by an emergency.

- Standard emergency rules apply, and can only be replaced by an emergency in the same position.

- If no suitable emergency is available, instead of having a player OOP, the player WILL NOT be substituted and the sub score stands. (Heath Shaw is red vested in first half, but you don't have an interchange/emergency to replace him in defense, so his score stands)

- A substituted player will have its score counted towards the Reserve team.
so what do you get for not using it?

just you wrote coaches "can" choose but i mean if there is no disadvantages to using it of coursecoaches will use every round


ossie85


There are some risks involved!

No guarantee the player you sub out won't score more than the emergency....

A green sub could come on after 5 minutes and score 100+


DazBurg

Quote from: ossie85 on February 22, 2014, 09:10:30 AM

There are some risks involved!

No guarantee the player you sub out won't score more than the emergency....

A green sub could come on after 5 minutes and score 100+
ahh true
like say for PNL Enright was subbed off at 3 qtr time on saturday so we play Mcpharlin instead and he gets injured in first qtr and subbed on on sunday that is the risk as well

CrowsFan

Quote from: DazBurg on February 22, 2014, 09:18:30 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on February 22, 2014, 09:10:30 AM

There are some risks involved!

No guarantee the player you sub out won't score more than the emergency....

A green sub could come on after 5 minutes and score 100+
ahh true
like say for PNL Enright was subbed off at 3 qtr time on saturday so we play Mcpharlin instead and he gets injured in first qtr and subbed on on sunday that is the risk as well
McPharlin would only come on if Enright was subbed off in the first half daz :)

DazBurg

Quote from: Honey Badger on February 22, 2014, 09:24:26 AM
Quote from: DazBurg on February 22, 2014, 09:18:30 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on February 22, 2014, 09:10:30 AM

There are some risks involved!

No guarantee the player you sub out won't score more than the emergency....

A green sub could come on after 5 minutes and score 100+
ahh true
like say for PNL Enright was subbed off at 3 qtr time on saturday so we play Mcpharlin instead and he gets injured in first qtr and subbed on on sunday that is the risk as well
McPharlin would only come on if Enright was subbed off in the first half daz :)

ahh ok yeah sorry my bad
bt you get what i was going for  ;)

ossie85

Quote from: DazBurg on February 22, 2014, 09:18:30 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on February 22, 2014, 09:10:30 AM

There are some risks involved!

No guarantee the player you sub out won't score more than the emergency....

A green sub could come on after 5 minutes and score 100+
ahh true
like say for PNL Enright was subbed off at 3 qtr time on saturday so we play Mcpharlin instead and he gets injured in first qtr and subbed on on sunday that is the risk as well

^ HB's point about after half time...

But McPharlin wouldn't be subbed on if he himself is also subbed, you'd be stuck with Enright if you had no other option

Justin Bieber

What happens if before the round you choose to use it, but then nobody in your XV is Green or Red vested? Does this mean the sub rule doesn't come into effect in this case? Because hard to decide before the round if anybody will even be the sub/subbed.

ossie85

Quote from: Hellopplz on February 22, 2014, 07:19:34 PM
What happens if before the round you choose to use it, but then nobody in your XV is Green or Red vested? Does this mean the sub rule doesn't come into effect in this case? Because hard to decide before the round if anybody will even be the sub/subbed.

That's right,  only used if needed

ossie85


With 11 of 18 coaches voted...

3 rules (all with a current 1-10 record) have been voted against:

- Bank
- Gamble
- Go Tall

.... WILL NOT be happening.

With 7 votes to come (Master Q/Toga, Jayman/tbagrocks, Nails, JBs-Hawks, pothead, pyronerd, roo boys!), only these rules are in limbo:

- Rest
- Flood
- Attack
- Go Small

Voting closes 11:59pm Wednesday



ossie85


After 12 votes...

"Go Small" now fails with a 2-10 record


Resting, Flood, Attack still in limbo

ossie85


Last day to vote....

Haven't voted:

Master Q/Toga
Jayman/tbagrocks
Nails
pothead
pyronerd
roo boys!

CrowsFan

Just thought of a concern regarding the resting rule.

Since the top clubs are also playing in the Champions League we can't really choose to rest a player against a weaker team since we then go in with a weaker team against a club from one of the other leagues and risk losing that match. This will then affect all the clubs later in the season when the WC is played...

Nige

Quote from: Honey Badger on February 26, 2014, 05:39:23 PM
Just thought of a concern regarding the resting rule.

Since the top clubs are also playing in the Champions League we can't really choose to rest a player against a weaker team since we then go in with a weaker team against a club from one of the other leagues and risk losing that match. This will then affect all the clubs later in the season when the WC is played...
Oh shower, good point.


CrowsFan

Also very slack of the coaches who haven't voted yet. Especially those teams who have 2 coaches...

Toga

Quote from: Honey Badger on February 26, 2014, 08:13:19 PM
Also very slack of the coaches who haven't voted yet. Especially those teams who have 2 coaches...

Beijing have now voted, but IMO having two coaches makes it harder as I prefer to communicate with Q before sending in our votes and sometimes it can take a while!