SC 2014 Profile: Nick Riewoldt

[Fantasygun]

Yes he is over 100k cheaper but I'd prefer to have solid premiums rather than underpriced players who might score well but might not.

[Ziplock]

I don't hate saint kilda, it's just a bad call on your part.

Riewoldt isn't a solid premium, especially compared to franklin.


Franklin SC averages: for the past 4 years

2010: 107.4
2011: 110.7
2012: 115.5
2013: 90.2
average: 106

Riewoldt:
2010: 109.9
2011: 87.1
2012: 95.8
2013: 105.1
average: 99.5

Yeah, Riewoldt was a good 2013 pick, but fact is he hasn't been consistently premium for years.

I'd rather punt on someone 100k cheaper, who's in his prime and 5 years younger, playing for a top 4 team, rather than a 32 year old with degenerative knees playing in a bottom side.

Tippett increased on his career high average by 5%... if Franklin does that he'll average 121 :P

[Jroo]

Awesome work Zip.
They should score around the same, so I'd much rather Buddy at $100k less.

[Fantasygun]

I don't hate saint kilda, it's just a bad call on your part.

Riewoldt isn't a solid premium, especially compared to franklin.


Franklin SC averages: for the past 4 years

2010: 107.4
2011: 110.7
2012: 115.5
2013: 90.2
average: 106

Riewoldt:
2010: 109.9
2011: 87.1
2012: 95.8
2013: 105.1
average: 99.5

Yeah, Riewoldt was a good 2013 pick, but fact is he hasn't been consistently premium for years.

I'd rather punt on someone 100k cheaper, who's in his prime and 5 years younger, playing for a top 4 team, rather than a 32 year old with degenerative knees playing in a bottom side.

Tippett increased on his career high average by 5%... if Franklin does that he'll average 121 :P

Yeah Tippet went to a much better club than his old, hawks and swans are of similar form.
Clearly I meant consistent as in 2013, Franklin was inconsistent and he was a major option at hawthorn and now swans have two many, obviously he will be one of the major options up forward.

If you haven't realised, being in a weak team doesn't make them a lower scorer especially this year, Franklin was horrible and I wouldn't be surprised if you actually picked him for the 2013 season, what a joke! :P

Bottom 4 team? So what, look at Montagna and Jack Steven. Both inside the top 11 midfielder averages for 2013, Jack Steven had the 8th most disposals in the H&A season and Montagna 4th.

[kilbluff1985]

you comparing midfielders to forwards now? :o

[Fantasygun]

Nope I certainly am not. I am saying that being in a poorly performing team doesn't mean you'll produce lower scores than those playing in good teams.

Montagna and Steven are just prime examples.

Riewoldt has the second highest 2013 average out of forwards available to be selected for 2014.
Cloke, Roughead, Franklin, JackReiwoldt, Pavlich, Westhoff, Petrie are key forwards in much better sides at the moment but they all seemed to perform SC wise undoubtedly worse than Riewoldt.

[kilbluff1985]

Being a midfielder in a poor team is much harder then be a tall forward though

[Fantasygun]

Yes it is, what you. Just said actually supports what im saying , whether you know it or not. :P

[Ziplock]

You know that one years performance doesn't make someone a proven gun? Hence why you look at their recent history. Recently riewoldt has been good, but not spectacular, while this year he was great. In contrast, Franklin has been great, but this year more average. Its not even too unreasonable to attribute such a large drop in scoring to all the contract talk that was going around- we've seen it detrimentally impact on player's scores before.

Secondly, FYI in 2012 adelaide finished second on the HA ladder and in 2013 sydney finished 4th.

Even though Adelaide were shower this year, technically speaking Tippett's scores increased going from a 'better' team to a 'worse' team.

Clearly I meant consistent as in 2013, Franklin was inconsistent and he was a major option at hawthorn and now swans have two many, obviously he will be one of the major options up forward.

If you haven't realised, being in a weak team doesn't make them a lower scorer especially this year, Franklin was horrible and I wouldn't be surprised if you actually picked him for the 2013 season, what a joke! :P

That's your issue. The trick with fantasy football is to make calls on who's going to do better and who's going to do worse than they did last year. That's how the game's played, you don't just go- oh yeah, this guy had an uncharacteristically great year, subsequently he's going to do awesome next year.

You try to pick value.

For instance, this year Riewoldt is priced at a 105 average, the 3 years prior to that he averaged 97.6.

compared to that, Franklin's priced at a 90 average, and the 3 years before that he's averaged 111.

We've already talked about the age.

The question you have to ask is why did Franklin's scores drop- it wasn't because he magically became shower ftr.

Being a midfielder in a poor team is much harder then be a tall forward though

Yes it is, what you. Just said actually supports what im saying , whether you know it or not. :P

Yeah, he did... I'm pretty sure that was a mistype though.

It is harder to be a tall forward in a struggling team- look at someone like Cameron, he's an absolute machine, but he gets such poor delivery that his fantasy scores are relatively average... and despite wishful thinking from saints supporters, they're going to be around the level that gws was this year- they've lost NDS, Mcevoy and Milne, and their replacements, while certainly being worth the loss in the long run, are still too young and inexperienced to match the calibre of players who have gone.

Whether that'll impact riewoldt's scores... I don't know. Riewoldt might make it into my team anyway, but atm I see him averaging between 100-105 and I see franklin averaging from 100-110, taking into account price, age, ongoing potential injuries in riewoldts case, that makes the decision between the two pretty easy, assuming they both complete full pre-seasons.

What I've said there is basically just stating facts, while basically everything you've said to choose Riewoldt over Franklin has just been opinionated and clouded by bias, with the exception of saying Riewoldt did score better than Franklin this year. Which, ftr, we're all well aware of.