Our Mini Draft Boys...

Started by Money, December 06, 2013, 10:15:06 PM

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henry

Quote from: Jukes on December 08, 2013, 03:05:39 AM
I think you're all forgetting who we're looking at here.
Martin is a future Brownlow medallist. Hogan is a future Coleman medallist and GOAT player.
Martin an Hogan to average 85-90 which will push them up 200-250k.
Double lock unless I desperately need the $$$
Agree with Martin, there's no way though that a key position player in their first year at a struggling club will average 85 lol. Cameron was as good a first year key forward as you're likely to see and he averaged 60. Hogan will average similarly, maybe a bit higher but nowhere near 85 or 90. Will likely start Martin though, can see him scoring similarly to the jaegar bomb.

Ricochet

Yeh can't see Hogan averaging 85 in his first year

Jukes

Quote from: henry on December 08, 2013, 12:34:31 PM
Quote from: Jukes on December 08, 2013, 03:05:39 AM
I think you're all forgetting who we're looking at here.
Martin is a future Brownlow medallist. Hogan is a future Coleman medallist and GOAT player.
Martin an Hogan to average 85-90 which will push them up 200-250k.
Double lock unless I desperately need the $$$
Agree with Martin, there's no way though that a key position player in their first year at a struggling club will average 85 lol. Cameron was as good a first year key forward as you're likely to see and he averaged 60. Hogan will average similarly, maybe a bit higher but nowhere near 85 or 90. Will likely start Martin though, can see him scoring similarly to the jaegar bomb.

Hoges averaged 98 in 2012 (WAFL colts) and 87 in the VFL last season if you don't include his two injury-affected games (both times injured in the first quarter), winning the Casey Best and Fairest. Natural progression and having an AFL pre-season under his belt will act to counter playing against better opposition. Expect an 80+ average (unless he gets injured).

Ricochet

Quote from: Jukes on December 08, 2013, 02:19:54 PM
Quote from: henry on December 08, 2013, 12:34:31 PM
Quote from: Jukes on December 08, 2013, 03:05:39 AM
I think you're all forgetting who we're looking at here.
Martin is a future Brownlow medallist. Hogan is a future Coleman medallist and GOAT player.
Martin an Hogan to average 85-90 which will push them up 200-250k.
Double lock unless I desperately need the $$$
Agree with Martin, there's no way though that a key position player in their first year at a struggling club will average 85 lol. Cameron was as good a first year key forward as you're likely to see and he averaged 60. Hogan will average similarly, maybe a bit higher but nowhere near 85 or 90. Will likely start Martin though, can see him scoring similarly to the jaegar bomb.


Hoges averaged 98 in 2012 (WAFL colts) and 87 in the VFL last season if you don't include his two injury-affected games (both times injured in the first quarter), winning the Casey Best and Fairest. Natural progression and having an AFL pre-season under his belt will act to counter playing against better opposition. Expect an 80+ average (unless he gets injured).
Casey were a top 4 team this year. Melbourne are a bottom 2 team. As good as his is already and will be, he still needs delivery. Plus the step up in class, quality of defenders, etc.

Ziplock

Quote from: Jukes on December 08, 2013, 02:19:54 PM
Quote from: henry on December 08, 2013, 12:34:31 PM
Quote from: Jukes on December 08, 2013, 03:05:39 AM
I think you're all forgetting who we're looking at here.
Martin is a future Brownlow medallist. Hogan is a future Coleman medallist and GOAT player.
Martin an Hogan to average 85-90 which will push them up 200-250k.
Double lock unless I desperately need the $$$
Agree with Martin, there's no way though that a key position player in their first year at a struggling club will average 85 lol. Cameron was as good a first year key forward as you're likely to see and he averaged 60. Hogan will average similarly, maybe a bit higher but nowhere near 85 or 90. Will likely start Martin though, can see him scoring similarly to the jaegar bomb.

Hoges averaged 98 in 2012 (WAFL colts) and 87 in the VFL last season if you don't include his two injury-affected games (both times injured in the first quarter), winning the Casey Best and Fairest. Natural progression and having an AFL pre-season under his belt will act to counter playing against better opposition. Expect an 80+ average (unless he gets injured).

That's really a massive call for a young KPF, and one playing for the demons at that.

I'd be seriously surprised if he averaged 80+.

70+ would be impressive, if he averages over that, then he'd have to be challenging for the coleman.

timmyparso

Would rather Jon Patton for $60K less than Hogan

MGK1

There is no way Jesse Hogan will come close to an 80+ average in his first year. I can see him showing glimpses of his potential but it won't warrant a spot in anyones DT especially when he isnt bottom priced.

dirkdiggler

starting neither, absolutely no way.  Will be looking for quicker cash generation at a lower price

fertalong

Soo.... Had Jack Martin locked since DT opened, but after watching him play today I was a bit underwhelmed.
He is a gun and was getting quality possessions and tackles lots,  but his Kick:HB ratio sucks and he got 0 marks all game.

He should score well, but not well enough to justify spending the extra cash on him. I don't see him going anywhere near what Jaeger O'Meara did last year based on his NAB performances.

Am I crazy or reading too much into it?

kilbluff1985

i don't think he was ever worth it in AF even before watching him play

blues boy

I'm not sure spending the extra 50 - 70K is worth it when your going to get players such as Dunstan, sheed, michie, tyson, cripps, lonergan, young, hartung, jack, graham and others

Who will score very similar if not more then Martin (in particular), sure some of the above dont have as good as JS but there are a few there who do have pretty good JS

Kellogscrunchynut

I've noticed this trend away from Martin of late, but take into account that was one of the few matches the Suns have not had Ablett to support the kids.