The Annual NBA Dynasty Draft. NOW VOTING

[Andrew3737]

Surely I win

Levis would have it for 1 or 2 years, but we are talking about 7 here...

You have no defense. GG.

[caluuum]

Surely I win

Levis would have it for 1 or 2 years, but we are talking about 7 here...

You have no defense. GG.

explain

Hahaha Chumps, if we all voted for ourselves it'd still be even! I voted Chumps and holz

[Andrew3737]

You have Jefferson and Aldridge as your C and PF, none of whom can defend. Durant, who is sort of ok. John Wall who isn't that great of a ball defender. Then you have Brad Beal who is average at everything. Your team will just be statues. You have elite scorers but no good defender, let a lone elite defender, which is what you need to win championships.

LBJ team is by far the best. TBH, I think this team isn't even top 3 now that I look at it properly. It's prob the worst team imo. No idea how you managed to stuff it up. All the other teams have a really good mix with a defending PF and Off C or vice versa. Look at

Smith/Noah
Lee/Lopez
Howard/Bosh
Love/Drummond
Griffin/Hibbert
Ibaka/Gasol
Davis/Cousins

Like good luck defending that. While the other team at least have an average/good defender. But some like Davis/Howard/Hibbert have elite defenders paired with borderline elite scorers.

[Jay]

The LBJ team is old though, wont be dominant for the whole 7 years...

Tbag's is my personal favourite :)

[Andrew3737]

Still going to win 3 out of the 7 years atleast.

[Jay]

I'll get a mod to start this poll up again (not working for me) and just leave the guys tying for first place. Hopefully we get a winner out of this :P

[Jay]

In an attempt to break the deadlock, the poll is again up and running... Round 2, ding ding ding ;D

P.S. Dont be a tool and vote for yourself ::)

[caluuum]

You have Jefferson and Aldridge as your C and PF, none of whom can defend. Durant, who is sort of ok. John Wall who isn't that great of a ball defender. Then you have Brad Beal who is average at everything. Your team will just be statues. You have elite scorers but no good defender, let a lone elite defender, which is what you need to win championships.

LBJ team is by far the best. TBH, I think this team isn't even top 3 now that I look at it properly. It's prob the worst team imo. No idea how you managed to stuff it up. All the other teams have a really good mix with a defending PF and Off C or vice versa. Look at

Smith/Noah
Lee/Lopez
Howard/Bosh
Love/Drummond
Griffin/Hibbert
Ibaka/Gasol
Davis/Cousins

Like good luck defending that. While the other team at least have an average/good defender. But some like Davis/Howard/Hibbert have elite defenders paired with borderline elite scorers.

Statistics say otherwise. The only player I agree who hasn't got defence is Jefferson which is why I got him. I didn't think I'd need any more.

Wall, Durant are only 23 and Beal is only 20. Seriously expecting them to be elite defenders at that age? They aren't specialists but they easily get the job done. Davis etc are exemptions

That was over 2-3 seasons about how efficient their opponent is around the basket. He ranked 5th in close range defence.
Do you actually watch any of their games?

Not saying statistics tell the whole story... but you can't ignore it

My team wouldn't win for at least 3-4 years but it will win a few no doubt about that.

[Andrew3737]

Worst thing to do was come at me with stats. Because it isn't in your favour. At all..... LBJ was an elite defender @ 19 and Howard was an elite defender at rookie. Davis is an elite defender in his 1st/2nd year. So yes, you can expect a  player to be elite @ 20 and 23.

Lets look at your team defensiuvly. Will be using NBA reference which is by far the best website for stats and comparisons. It uses raw numbers. What we want to focus on is DWS, WS/48, BLK, TRB, STL and PER. I will be just using players that are defensivly sound at that position to compare them to so you can get an idea at how low your defense rating actually is.

Lets first look at your PG

Defensively he isn't good. At all. Compare him to say, Rondo at the same age

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&p1=walljo01&y1=2014&p2=rondora01&y2=2010

The gap is just so huge.

Rondo was just making it to the elite at that stage. Rondo isn't even the best defensive PG. So against the best ball handlers in the game, and lets face it, thats what you're going to be up against, Wall is going to crumble.


Now the SG.

Lets just put him against Iggy at the same point.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&p1=bealbr01&y1=2014&p2=iguodan01&y2=2006

Again, the vast difference in the numbers.

SF

Durant vs James

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&p1=duranke01&y1=2014&p2=jamesle01&y2=2010

Not as massive of a difference as the other 2, but that is a given since these 2 are elite. But you can see that in all aspects except for BLK and TRB, which are understandable given Durant is 2/3" taller, James is in favour.

Now this is where it gets real ugly, with your bigs.

PF

Aldridge vs Duncan at the same point.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&p1=aldrila01&y1=2014&p2=duncati01&y2=2005

While it is a bit unfair to pin him against a top 10 player of all time, you can just see the huge gap between 2 bigs with 2 different mindsets.

C

Jeffereson vs Howard

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&p1=jeffeal01&y1=2014&p2=howardw01&y2=2014

jefferson is close to the worst defensive C in the NBA.

IF you had someone else other than Jeffereson and a different SG, your team would in championships. No doubt.

Also one thing I think you aren't considering is the fact that this isnt the NBA. This is a stacked fantasy draft. There are no non-elite teams. If one of these teams was in the NBA, they would prob sweep the playoffs. So you have to think differently when showing stats because they won't be up against average defenders or offensive players. They would be up against elite players across the board.

[tbagrocks]

nobody actually cares for your opinion mate

[My Chumps]

I do. I'm not going to take it as gospel but still find it interesting.

Not sure it's fair to compare each player to the best defender in each position though.

[Andrew3737]

I do. I'm not going to take it as gospel but still find it interesting.

Not sure it's fair to compare each player to the best defender in each position though.

Rondo isn't the best, Iggy isn't the best ( even tho its close), compating KD to LBJ is fine imo, Duncan and Howard, like I said is a bit unfair but Just wanted to show the difference in the mindset between a offensive big man and a defensive big man.

[Jay]

Would like to announce Levis as our winner :)

Cheers boys!

[My Chumps]

Came in second  8)

Congrats Levis!

[Andrew3737]

def in next time :D