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Started by Levis43, November 26, 2013, 07:59:52 PM

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RaisyDaisy

When you win the Rumble it is meant to guarantee you a title shot at Mania. I know Reigns is copping a lot of heat, but it's not his fault. Having him have to put his place on the line vs Bryan at the next PPV is just horrible. Winning the Rumble now means nothing.

Well done WWE, just yet another stupid decision you've made

Cookie Monster

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 03, 2015, 07:48:38 PM
When you win the Rumble it is meant to guarantee you a title shot at Mania. I know Reigns is copping a lot of heat, but it's not his fault. Having him have to put his place on the line vs Bryan at the next PPV is just horrible. Winning the Rumble now means nothing.

Well done WWE, just yet another stupid decision you've made
The whole reason why he got heat at the Rumble was because Bryan was eliminated early.

Before he becomes champion Reigns needs to get away from the shield stuff, new clothes, new entrance and new catch phrases.

Fastlane is to just get Reigns bumped up again to be the face.

Rollins will cash in at Mania and become a "Paul Heyman Guy" the next night because Lesnar is going to UFC.


Now on Taker. Probably won't as there is nothing for him to perform for, too old for a title run and the streak is gone. The only thing i can see is that it could be a Career match at mania with Sting, but all things lead to a HHH v Sting.


R.Griffen

If he can't last in the ring any chance him and Kane would team together for Mania just to see him for the last time?

Cookie Monster

If you've got the WWE Network and watched that special behind the scenes of Wrestlemania 30 and saw how Taker and Vince embraced before the match. Makes me think he's done. I think he's done a retirement suitable to his character not like Edge's retirement. I don't think we'll see Taker stand in the ring and give a retirement speech.


I'd love to see him again, but for mania, there's no one at the moment i can see him fighting. As i said the only match i can see him doing is a Career match, but after the streak ended i don't see him coming back.

RaisyDaisy

He's locked to face Wyatt, as long as he is fit

I don't think he needs to wrestle again, but if he can give Wyatt that extra push and put him over really well then that's great

Hellopplz

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 03, 2015, 08:11:13 PM
He's locked to face Wyatt, as long as he is fit

I don't think he needs to wrestle again, but if he can give Wyatt that extra push and put him over really well then that's great
He's done it before, don't see him having a problem putting Wyatt over. Think it was when Shield were bad guys and were coming along, the week after Wrestlemania Undertaker lost a house show match to Dean Ambrose (clean) and then got triple powerbombed through the announcers table!

Quote from: Mat0369 on February 03, 2015, 07:42:51 PM
I smell a fatal four way at Mania
Quote from: Hellopplz on January 27, 2015, 11:13:37 PM
If they plan to add Bryan to the Wrestlemania match, I reckon they should follow a plan like this to make it different to last year.

Let Seth Rollins get pissed off so much at Heyman and Lesnar (as an interview was done in place of Raw where Seth still showed his disdain for Lesnar) and make him continue being pestered by Heyman for like the next month and cash in the Money in the Bank Briefcase to get into the Wrestlemania match with Reigns and Lesnar. And still have Bryan fight against the Authority with some sort of match stacked against him at Fastlane/Elimination Chamber. Have him be able to overcome these odds and win a spot to get a shot at the Gold at Wrestlemania, against whatever the Authority throw at him.

This would make the Main Event be: Lesnar Vs Reigns Vs Rollins Vs Bryan. Pretty sure the combo of those four could make it work, got two power guys and two creative, brilliant performers. Even if Bryan doesn't come away with the win (e.g. Let Rollins or Reigns win), he got into the Main Event and gets to show off Reigns/Rollins at the same time who are meant to be the future of the company.

Something I was pondering if WWE were to possibly add Bryan to the match but not make it repeat what they did last year (exactly).

I hope this plan goes through (in same way or form).

Cookie Monster

Quote from: Hellopplz on February 03, 2015, 08:15:23 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 03, 2015, 08:11:13 PM
He's locked to face Wyatt, as long as he is fit

I don't think he needs to wrestle again, but if he can give Wyatt that extra push and put him over really well then that's great
He's done it before, don't see him having a problem putting Wyatt over. Think it was when Shield were bad guys and were coming along, the week after Wrestlemania Undertaker lost a house show match to Dean Ambrose (clean) and then got triple powerbombed through the announcers table!

Quote from: Mat0369 on February 03, 2015, 07:42:51 PM
I smell a fatal four way at Mania
Quote from: Hellopplz on January 27, 2015, 11:13:37 PM
If they plan to add Bryan to the Wrestlemania match, I reckon they should follow a plan like this to make it different to last year.

Let Seth Rollins get pissed off so much at Heyman and Lesnar (as an interview was done in place of Raw where Seth still showed his disdain for Lesnar) and make him continue being pestered by Heyman for like the next month and cash in the Money in the Bank Briefcase to get into the Wrestlemania match with Reigns and Lesnar. And still have Bryan fight against the Authority with some sort of match stacked against him at Fastlane/Elimination Chamber. Have him be able to overcome these odds and win a spot to get a shot at the Gold at Wrestlemania, against whatever the Authority throw at him.

This would make the Main Event be: Lesnar Vs Reigns Vs Rollins Vs Bryan. Pretty sure the combo of those four could make it work, got two power guys and two creative, brilliant performers. Even if Bryan doesn't come away with the win (e.g. Let Rollins or Reigns win), he got into the Main Event and gets to show off Reigns/Rollins at the same time who are meant to be the future of the company.

Something I was pondering if WWE were to possibly add Bryan to the match but not make it repeat what they did last year (exactly).

I hope this plan goes through (in same way or form).
I don't think Bryan will make the main event.

They could turn Ziggler heel at Fastlane and be a distraction for Reigns to beat Bryan. Setting up two monsters to go against each other. And also setting up a Ziggler v Bryan match up at mania which Ziggler challenged Bryan for and Bryan accepted.

Everyone's also forgetting the return soon of Randy Orton, before is "injury" *cough* film making *cough*. He was going against the authority and could have match at Mania against Rollins. Rollins can still cash in the MITB contract at the end of the night.

Noz

No the main event has to be a 1 on 1 not a triple threat and definitely not a fatal 4 way. Especially with next years main event possible being Rollins vs Reigns vs Ambrose having 3 consecutive wrestlemania with multiple people in the main event would be bad.

Have Lesnar and Reigns as the main event this is really whats best for business you will be elevating a guy such as Reigns into that top spot in the company with Reigns as your new champion you literally have a dozen of new feuds that can happen straight away.

Also being the first pure NXT superstar (not counting Bryan since he wasnt apart of the new rebranded NXT) to capture the WWE World title.

My wrestlemania card would look something like this.

WWE World Title
Brock Lesnar vs Roman Reigns

Triple H vs Sting

Dolph Ziggler vs Daniel Bryan

John Cena vs Ryback

The Rock vs Rusev

Bray Wyatt vs Undertaker

Randy Orton vs The Big Show

Goldust vs Stardust

Intercontinel Championship
Dean Ambrose vs Bad News Barrett

Fatal 4 way for the Tag Team Titles
Usos vs Mizdow vs Ascension vs Kid/Cesaro

Hellopplz

I don't mind Reigns Vs Lesnar if we get Ziggler Vs Bryan, don't even mind if Ziggler goes heel or stays face, will be a heck of a match! Although the fatal fourway could also work if they absolutely must take away Reigns 1v1 chance at the title (which kinda demeans the Royal Rumble as was said before, because it happened last year as well).

Cookie Monster

I'm sticking with my opinion on Reigns, he needs a new look and theme, he had the perfect oppurtunity to come back as the new and better Roman Reigns. Look at how far Dean and Seth have come since the seperation. Especially being injured and just sticking as the same look as he was when he was in the shied makes me want him to lose at either fast lane or mania. But it won't happen. I see where the Wyatt v Undertaker thing is coming from. But i really don't see the Undertaker wrestle again. If they do, i feel Wyatt will call him out and it'll be a career match. It's the only way. Cena will face Rusev at Mania. They set that up to be a rivalry for longer than a month. If Rock has anything to do with Mania it will be something to do with Reigns.

There will be a Divas match in there, not just a battle royale.

Noz

Quote from: Cookie Monster on February 03, 2015, 09:08:36 PM
I'm sticking with my opinion on Reigns, he needs a new look and theme, he had the perfect oppurtunity to come back as the new and better Roman Reigns. Look at how far Dean and Seth have come since the seperation. Especially being injured and just sticking as the same look as he was when he was in the shied makes me want him to lose at either fast lane or mania. But it won't happen. I see where the Wyatt v Undertaker thing is coming from. But i really don't see the Undertaker wrestle again. If they do, i feel Wyatt will call him out and it'll be a career match. It's the only way. Cena will face Rusev at Mania. They set that up to be a rivalry for longer than a month. If Rock has anything to do with Mania it will be something to do with Reigns.

There will be a Divas match in there, not just a battle royale.

Rock had some sort of interaction with Rusev at the RR and also towards the later part of last year. Rock also has said a couple of times that he wouldn't mind working Rusev.

Who better to get Rusev over at Mania.

Ryback needs to be in a highly relevant feud if they want him to elevate him to main event status.

Cookie Monster

Quote from: Noz on February 03, 2015, 09:54:23 PM
Quote from: Cookie Monster on February 03, 2015, 09:08:36 PM
I'm sticking with my opinion on Reigns, he needs a new look and theme, he had the perfect oppurtunity to come back as the new and better Roman Reigns. Look at how far Dean and Seth have come since the seperation. Especially being injured and just sticking as the same look as he was when he was in the shied makes me want him to lose at either fast lane or mania. But it won't happen. I see where the Wyatt v Undertaker thing is coming from. But i really don't see the Undertaker wrestle again. If they do, i feel Wyatt will call him out and it'll be a career match. It's the only way. Cena will face Rusev at Mania. They set that up to be a rivalry for longer than a month. If Rock has anything to do with Mania it will be something to do with Reigns.

There will be a Divas match in there, not just a battle royale.

Rock had some sort of interaction with Rusev at the RR and also towards the later part of last year. Rock also has said a couple of times that he wouldn't mind working Rusev.

Who better to get Rusev over at Mania.

Ryback needs to be in a highly relevant feud if they want him to elevate him to main event status.
I can't see the Cena v Rusev rivalry only last a month though, at the end of the rumble when they got face to face it seemed to be so much bigger. I reckon he'll either face Cena or defend his title against someone like maybe Ryback.

Noz


RiOtChEsS

WWE's problem is they flip flop and second guess themselves time and time again, i doubt Bryan wins Mania last year without Punk and Foley's public bashing of the creative team, now they r doing it again with Reigns...
HEY WWE....WHAT THE F?
Yes, I'm going to put a brick through my TV. It's just going to have to wait until tomorrow. I had every intention of putting a brick through my TV tonight, after seeing that Daniel Bryan was not even entered in the Royal Rumble match, let alone going to win the thing. But, upon seeing their dad with a brick in his hand, my younger children got a little bit scared, thinking their dad had lost his mind. A rather spirited debate about the wisdom of following through on the promise to put a brick through my TV ensued with my wife - and, as is usually the case in marital debates, I, being the husband, did not emerge victorious. Honestly, the points she made about mercury and glass fragments everywhere were pretty good ones.
But I'm still going to put a brick through my TV. It's just going to have to wait until tomorrow - when the kids are in school, and I can take the TV outside the house for the actual throwing of the brick. Granted, it's not nearly as dramatic as doing it live, right after the Rumble, but at least I will be keeping my word.
As I mentioned on Twitter, I've never felt so disgusted at the conclusion of a WWE (or any) PPV. Like many of you out there, I just don't get it. This Daniel Bryan thing is a phenomenon. You get it. I get it. The fans in Pittsburgh (yes, I was thinking of writing "RIGHT TH...but I'm just not in a cheap pop mood) got it. But tonight, for the first time, I had to admit to myself that the powers that be are just not going to get it. And that makes me sad. I'm just honestly sad, just flat out flowering sad (yes, I dropped an F-bomb there to emphasize how F'ing sad I am for the guys who bust their butts night in and night out - Ziggler, Punk, Bryan, etc - with no hope of getting their shot at this year's Mania.
You know who else I'm sad for? Me. In my two years as an official WWE Ambassador, I never once had to lie about my enthusiasm for the company or the product. Now, although I am no longer officially an Ambassador for WWE (believe it or not, my only official role in WWE is as GM for Saturday Morning Slam, a contract that ends in one month) I was till looking forward to being part of the biggest event of the year. I'll probably end up going anyway. But I'm about 1/6th as excited about it as I was just a few hours ago. I wanted so badly to hear 75,000 WWE fans chanting "YES" - and seeing fans walk away absolutely ecstatic about the outcome of a PPV for the first time in a while...a long while. But when given the chance to make it happen (unless they've got something MAJOR up their sleeve) WWE's answer tonight was a resounding "NO, NO, NO".


How flowering good was Wyatt's sister abigail on Ziggler directly after he took the fame asser 8)

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