Vinny's Blue Boys 2014

Started by Vinny, November 25, 2013, 07:19:12 PM

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Doggoneit

not many prems with rd 10 bye

I would look at swapping either Jelwood or Pendles to Watson

overall your bye structure will probably change as you start to lock in rookies at this stage it is more getting bye balance with the prems

Vinny

Yeah that's true, I'll sort that out when the FanPlanner is updated. Cheers :)

GoLions

Quote from: Doggoneit on December 15, 2013, 11:04:40 AM
not many prems with rd 10 bye

I would look at swapping either Jelwood or Pendles to Watson

overall your bye structure will probably change as you start to lock in rookies at this stage it is more getting bye balance with the prems
I don't really see the point in swapping one of those guys for Watson. I'll use Pendles as an example.
Pendles will average let's say 10ppg more than Watson by the end of the year. He is also one of the top 3 captain choices basically every single week. So this could potentially be a difference of 20ppg. Over the course of the year, excluding bye rounds, that will equate to around 300+ points, possibly more depending on how many times you have him captain. Having Watson instead of Pendles in the bye rounds will mean gaining ~40 points by playing Watson instead of a rookie in Pendles' bye round, but then losing ~50 points by playing a rookie instead of Pendles in Watson's bye round.

TL;DR bye rounds should only make a difference if you think the players will average basically the exact same points.

Doggoneit

hmmm - good point about the captain - hadn't thought of that - even up to rd 7 that = 140pts. I have a sneaky suspicion that C/VC rules may change this year to eliminate the loop hole - if that happens it would cause a total rethink on strategy

as far as Watson instead of rookie but then rookie instead of Pendles - you would upgrade rookie to Pendles after rd 8 thus eliminating the loss.


GoLions

Quote from: Doggoneit on December 15, 2013, 12:56:21 PM
as far as Watson instead of rookie but then rookie instead of Pendles - you would upgrade rookie to Pendles after rd 8 thus eliminating the loss.
If I had the cash to upgrade a rookie to a premo mid such as Pendles, then I'd probably be making the upgrade regardless of who I have. I see your point though.

tor01doc

Quote from: GoLions16 on December 15, 2013, 12:35:53 PM
Quote from: Doggoneit on December 15, 2013, 11:04:40 AM
not many prems with rd 10 bye

I would look at swapping either Jelwood or Pendles to Watson

overall your bye structure will probably change as you start to lock in rookies at this stage it is more getting bye balance with the prems
I don't really see the point in swapping one of those guys for Watson. I'll use Pendles as an example.
Pendles will average let's say 10ppg more than Watson by the end of the year. He is also one of the top 3 captain choices basically every single week. So this could potentially be a difference of 20ppg. Over the course of the year, excluding bye rounds, that will equate to around 300+ points, possibly more depending on how many times you have him captain. Having Watson instead of Pendles in the bye rounds will mean gaining ~40 points by playing Watson instead of a rookie in Pendles' bye round, but then losing ~50 points by playing a rookie instead of Pendles in Watson's bye round.

TL;DR bye rounds should only make a difference if you think the players will average basically the exact same points.

Just a different take on ppg 'lost' with Watson and whoever vs Pendles plus a slightly cheaper whoever

Pendles 120 + 120
Say Jelwood 110
Whoever (cheapy) 80 -> total 430

Watson 110
Jelwood 110 + 110
Whoever 90 (will have more to spend on this guy) 90 -> total 420

OR

Use Ablett as captain and don't lose anything.

Not sure this is 100% but Pendles over Watson as captain isn't just double the difference in ppg.

Having said all that, I'll be getting Pendles over Watson every day of the SC year.

GoLions

Quote from: tor01doc on December 15, 2013, 02:40:27 PM
Quote from: GoLions16 on December 15, 2013, 12:35:53 PM
Quote from: Doggoneit on December 15, 2013, 11:04:40 AM
not many prems with rd 10 bye

I would look at swapping either Jelwood or Pendles to Watson

overall your bye structure will probably change as you start to lock in rookies at this stage it is more getting bye balance with the prems
I don't really see the point in swapping one of those guys for Watson. I'll use Pendles as an example.
Pendles will average let's say 10ppg more than Watson by the end of the year. He is also one of the top 3 captain choices basically every single week. So this could potentially be a difference of 20ppg. Over the course of the year, excluding bye rounds, that will equate to around 300+ points, possibly more depending on how many times you have him captain. Having Watson instead of Pendles in the bye rounds will mean gaining ~40 points by playing Watson instead of a rookie in Pendles' bye round, but then losing ~50 points by playing a rookie instead of Pendles in Watson's bye round.

TL;DR bye rounds should only make a difference if you think the players will average basically the exact same points.

Just a different take on ppg 'lost' with Watson and whoever vs Pendles plus a slightly cheaper whoever

Pendles 120 + 120
Say Jelwood 110
Whoever (cheapy) 80 -> total 430

Watson 110
Jelwood 110 + 110
Whoever 90 (will have more to spend on this guy) 90 -> total 420

OR

Use Ablett as captain and don't lose anything.

Not sure this is 100% but Pendles over Watson as captain isn't just double the difference in ppg.

Having said all that, I'll be getting Pendles over Watson every day of the SC year.
Probably won't make much of a difference, but I see Watson going 115 maybe, and Pendles 125+ definitely. And I'm assuming you don't have Ablett, so those captain points make a bit of a difference I would say. Yes it isn't much, and you can spend extra money on a possibly better rookie (really is a luck of the draw sometimes IMO), but I see Pendles going number 1 in SC and to not have him this year could be suicide.

He basically never goes under 100 as well, so also takes off some of the stress you get when playing SC :)

Holz

Quote from: Doggoneit on December 15, 2013, 11:04:40 AM
not many prems with rd 10 bye

I would look at swapping either Jelwood or Pendles to Watson

overall your bye structure will probably change as you start to lock in rookies at this stage it is more getting bye balance with the prems

you dont want many, you want to load up on round 10 rookies so you can get rid of them during the byes. Ideally round 10 and 9 rookies are what you want more of and round 8 premos.

as you shouldnt be trading out any round 8 players.

Vinny youy basically have my team so 9.8/10

Vinny

Yeah when the rookies are set in place that will change the bye structure quite alot.

I am waiting for the FanPlanner to be updated so I can make some changes. :P

Haha thanks Holz. Pretty similar!

Wow I just realised that the way I have been thinking is that the teams with the Round 8 byes re the teams that play. Fuccck. Hahaha.

Ringo

I agree with the strategy of having Prems for round 8 and rookies in Round 10.  With the byes so much earlier this year yo need your rookies to be earning as much cash as possible prior to cashing in so it makes sense to load up on Round 10 rookies that are playing. Say you had a round 8 rookie playing from round 1 prices are not adjusted till they have played the three games so effectively you are only getting 5 price increases for Round 8 rookies compared with 7 for Round 10 rookies.


Holz

Quote from: Ringo on December 16, 2013, 10:42:14 AM
I agree with the strategy of having Prems for round 8 and rookies in Round 10.  With the byes so much earlier this year yo need your rookies to be earning as much cash as possible prior to cashing in so it makes sense to load up on Round 10 rookies that are playing. Say you had a round 8 rookie playing from round 1 prices are not adjusted till they have played the three games so effectively you are only getting 5 price increases for Round 8 rookies compared with 7 for Round 10 rookies.

the other big thing is whoever you bring in will have a bye upcoming. when you trade round 10 players to 9, 8 or round 9 to 8 your bringing in someone who has already had a bye.


Oricle

Nice team mate, I'm just wondering why most people aren't looking at Polec and X.Ellis as cheap midfield options? I've heard they are fairly cheap and likely to play plenty of games.

Vinny

Quote from: Oricle on December 16, 2013, 12:30:25 PM
Nice team mate, I'm just wondering why most people aren't looking at Polec and X.Ellis as cheap midfield options? I've heard they are fairly cheap and likely to play plenty of games.

Cheers. I am getting Ellis mate, just haven't updated my team on this thread yet :)

Vinny

Blue Boys - UPDATE

Recap: Thought I'd get this updated try keep going throughout the season, haha. As in talk about my trades, thoughts and all that shower.

I have started pretty terribly for the season mainly due to one bad week.

Round 1 Rank: 11,921 (2,237)
Round 2 Rank: 55,001 (1,917)
Round 3 Rank: 34,819 (2,277)

If it is possible, I would like to still finish in the Top 5k.

The Team after Round 3:


Cash:$174,900 - Trades Left: 28

Proposed Trades:
I reckon the main issues in my team are Caddy and F6.
IMO, Daisy will come good plus he has Melbourne this week and Goldy will get back to his best when Currie gets dropped which might happen this week. Not worth chasing Mummy anymore IMO, he will not average 150 for the whole season with tougher opponents.
Caddy still has a BE of 59 or there abouts so he is definitely still able to rise and hopefully he can pump out a 90 and make some cash.

Rohan is a flowering spud, McCarthy is not a great scorer but JS seems good but I am not sure I can afford to field him.
McDonough is not getting games.

I was thinking if McDonough is not named this week, I could upgrade him to Fasolo a week early and play him. That is if he is not sub.

So: McDonough to Fasolo.

I have 179k so cash is not a worry. Any other thoughts or feedback would be sweet. :)

Bones Bombers

Are you just short of Merrett?
Even if he can't keep scoring tons he is as likely to score well as Fasolo or any other cheaper player. Also don't think his price will drop any time soon. The worst performing mid pricers can be upgraded to true premos when the cows fatten. If there are any standout premos.