WXV International Draft 2013

[ossie85]

ok there are then quite a few that meet that will qualify under that criteria if it is to continue

Jason Holmes
Patrick Mitchell
Daniel Flynn
Ciaran Sheehan
Kurt Heatherley
Ciaran Byrne
Shem Tatupu

Then do Michael Luxford and Lloyd Perris also qualify under this criteria being pre listed players.

Yes, thanks for that Ringo!

Yeah, these players I think should have the choice at being selected on a senior list, because for whatever reason clubs had alternate access to them.

[ossie85]

Draft Bidding

Sometimes we are forced to make decisions we don't want! Cameron Wood was delisted by Collingwood at the end of 2012, therefore forcing Pacific to delist him. This is the only case I can find (let me know if I've missed someone). Wood has now been drafted again.

So, in fairness to Pacific, they should get the oppurtunity to draft him back.

We will do a father-son like bidding system.

The 17 other teams (not Pacific) have the oppurtunity to bid which round they would pick Cameron Wood in. Pacific then get the oppurtunity to match it. I.e:

Beijing bid there 3rd round pick on Cameron Wood. If Pacific don't want to pay a 3rd round pick, Beijing have to use a 3rd round pick to select him (Pick 41). If Pacific want him, they'll have to use a 3rd round pick on him (Pick 53). So Pacific would win that battle, even though Beijing's pick is higher.

Alternatively, Mexico City might bid there 3rd round pick (pick 56), but since Pacific's 3rd round pick is earlier (pick 53) they would only need to match it with there next pick (which would be a 6th round pick as it currently stands).

So Pacifc clearly have the advantage, but if other teams want him, they get the oppurtunity.

..... So, happy for people to raise thoughts, etc... But let the bidding start NOW!

Bidding will end once drafting starts, at which point Pacific will need to decide whether to match the offer or not.

You can also bid with rookie draft rounds (not preseason though)

[CrowsFan]

Just a question regarding the draft bidding ossie... for how many years after is it in place? i.e is it only if they get drafted back the next year, or can it be a couple years later? Mark Hutchings strikes me as the most obvious example here, was on the Saints list for one year and got delisted at the end of 2010, and then got picked up end of 2012, so 2 years later. If we had been playing this game back then I'm sure whoever had Hutchings that first year would have loved him back.

[Ringo]

CF has a fair point here - For example when Ahmed Saad competes his suspension he will more than likely be picked up but that will also be 2 years.

[Purple 77]

Joel Tippet one?

[ossie85]

Joel Tippet one?

Tippett wasn't on a list in 2012 or 2013 :/


And I don't think we'd have a time limit. Takes Podsiadly, he was on a rookie list for Collingwood and took 10 years or so to get picked up again! because it is a bidding system, I think it is still fair no matter what the process....

Oh, and you can also bid in the rookie draft, will edit original post

[CrowsFan]

Ah good I like the addition of the bidding in the rookie. Just one more question... If someone bids on a player, say a 3rd round pick, and the team who has the rights matches it, can the other team then change their mind and bid their second round pick? Or is it a one bid system?

[ossie85]

Ah good I like the addition of the bidding in the rookie. Just one more question... If someone bids on a player, say a 3rd round pick, and the team who has the rights matches it, can the other team then change their mind and bid their second round pick? Or is it a one bid system?

That's another good question...

... yes and no.

If one of the other 17 teams outbids you, you can then outbid them... but once the person who matches it (and they can choose to match or not only after bidding finishes), it's over.

[CrowsFan]

Sounds good :)

Much better than actually implementing a father-son rule, since we would have to wait about 18 years to get one!

[Nige]

If bidding is in fact now open, I reckon I might bid Cairo's second round (and last) rookie pick for Cameron Wood.

That's how it works right? Now I just sit tight and wait to be outbid?  :P

[ossie85]

Sounds good :)

Much better than actually implementing a father-son rule, since we would have to wait about 18 years to get one!

My long-term plans for sure! May not be 18 years.... A player like Boomer Harvey could have a 14 year old son.... (no idea if he does or not..)

If bidding is in fact now open, I reckon I might bid Cairo's second round (and last) rookie pick for Cameron Wood.

That's how it works right? Now I just sit tight and wait to be outbid?  :P

Yep, and if Pacific don't match it, you have to select him.

[Nige]

Yep, and if Pacific don't match it, you have to select him.

They have good ruck stocks. Play nice, Jay.  :P

[Jay]

Yep, and if Pacific don't match it, you have to select him.

They have good ruck stocks. Play nice, Jay.  :P

;)

[roo boys!]

So how would we value this bidding process Oss? Eg which is worth more, pick 50 (3rd round) in the International Draft or Pick 29 (second round)  in the Rookie Draft?

I'll bid whichever one has more value thanks.

[Nige]

 :(