2 better this year.

[Ricochet]

I don't mind it mate. Only thing I stay away from is 2 rookies on the field in either the fwds or backs. So personally would rather see one less rookie in the fwd line. Relying on Kerston, Lennon, Michie and Hogan for two decent scores every week is a little too risky

[Holz]

I don't mind it mate. Only thing I stay away from is 2 rookies on the field in either the fwds or backs. So personally would rather see one less rookie in the fwd line. Relying on Kerston, Lennon, Michie and Hogan for two decent scores every week is a little too risky

Good point the thing I'm really worried about is MacDonald and scharenberg posting good scores on the bench.

I'm pretty confident about those 4 actually.

If another backman pops up than birchall to that backman and upgrade a rookie forward to roughy

[_wato]

Am I the only one who rates the forwards this year? I've gone with 5 forwards and think my team is pretty well balanced.

Obviously if Martin is forward ill go with 4, and I'm hoping Rockliff is a mid only which will make him even more special.

I just don't get what people are saying. I mean is Martin, Roughead, Franklin, Pavlich and Thomas too much? Sorry for asking this on your thread mate.

I like your team mate, looks fantastic. I think your team barring injuries should do very well. Interesting to see we have the same midfield, hahah. Good luck Holz, try and get two better next year, was so awesome seeing you get so close.

Will look to you as always for tips and what not. Bets of luck mate.

[Holz]

Am I the only one who rates the forwards this year? I've gone with 5 forwards and think my team is pretty well balanced.

Obviously if Martin is forward ill go with 4, and I'm hoping Rockliff is a mid only which will make him even more special.

I just don't get what people are saying. I mean is Martin, Roughead, Franklin, Pavlich and Thomas too much? Sorry for asking this on your thread mate.

I like your team mate, looks fantastic. I think your team barring injuries should do very well. Interesting to see we have the same midfield, hahah. Good luck Holz, try and get two better next year, was so awesome seeing you get so close.

Will look to you as always for tips and what not. Bets of luck mate.

thanks for the kinds words.

the structure is where you make or break your season. the reason why i woudl say that is too much is the following.

roughead: wont be rucking as a key forward i dont see him improving on a coleman year
buddy: might improve abit, but the SCG is small and sydney are low scoring i dont like his changes of pushing 100
pav, thomas: good picks they are my F2 and F3.

however as stated fasolo, patton, kerson, michie, hogan, lennon, higgins all look good and having a guy like roughy in there means your sacrificying one of those guys.

however

Simpson: started very slowly than came home averaging like 105 in the second half, thats amazing for a back
Mcveigh: basically a semi premo mid in the backline will monitor his role but a guy who can pump out 160+ in a final who has dpp you have to consider.
Suckling Waters: have a histroy of being premo if they have full preseason you can get a top 10 player for a mid pricer salary great value.
Birchall: not a great pick slightly undervalued if i was going to drop someone it would be him.


the difference is mcdonald i like, sharenberg and kade both look abit expensive and i dont see them scoring big anyway so will look for a 115k player when the seaons starts.

so

Macdonald v fasolo, patton, kerson, michie, hogan, lennon, higgins  as rookies i like. thats why i have a gun backline and weak forward line.

[hawkers65]

had another look this time working out the byes

Jarrad McVeigh, Michael Hibberd, Kade Simpson, Grant Birchall, Matt Suckling,Beau Waters
Matt Scharenberg, Luke Mcdonald

Scott Pendlebury, Joel Selwood, Jobe Watson, Tom Rockliff, Dayne Beams, Dom Tyson, Dominic Sheed, Claye Beams
Luke Dunstan, Jack Martin

Nic Naitanui, Todd Goldstein
Liam McBean, Sam Naismith

Dustin Martin, Matthew pavlich, Dale Thomas, Shaun Higgins, Shane Kerston, Ben Lennon
Viv Michie, Jesse Hogan




Round 8 9
Round 9 8
Round 10 13

you will notice im loading up round 10 players. thats becasue i will be mass trading out rookie (Michie, Hogan Naismith, Beams, Dunston, Tyson etc...)


alos possibly have the strgonest backline in the whole comp, like the value up front.

Does that even fit in the salary? I know the fwd line is really weak, but a full back/ruck and solid mids...

[_wato]

So if I was to match our team together this is what it'd be like. Just trying to see whether you think both structures are worthy of doing well next year.

Hibberd v S Thompson
Simpson v McDonald
Tyson v O'Rourke
Goldstein v Sandilands
Higgins v Roughead
Kersten v Franklin
Lennon v Michie

As with your point for Roughy, with Buddy gone it opens up so much potential for him. In games in the past two years where Buddy hasnt played he's averaged over 108. Will be a POD also.

As with Franklin - His last three scores there have been 77, 146 and 101. With Tippett at full forward Buddy can roam up the ground and find the footy with ease as he will be a main target. Also with Tippett I think Buddy gets te second defender as Tippett will be more dangerous. Buddy can work back hard as he loves to do and still score 50+ goals. We've seen Jack/Kennedy/Mcveigh etc all post 100+ averages so I don't see why Buddy can't.

Think I can get more reliable scores from the blokes up forward than in defence IMO.

[Holz]

had another look this time working out the byes

Jarrad McVeigh, Michael Hibberd, Kade Simpson, Grant Birchall, Matt Suckling,Beau Waters
Matt Scharenberg, Luke Mcdonald

Scott Pendlebury, Joel Selwood, Jobe Watson, Tom Rockliff, Dayne Beams, Dom Tyson, Dominic Sheed, Claye Beams
Luke Dunstan, Jack Martin

Nic Naitanui, Todd Goldstein
Liam McBean, Sam Naismith

Dustin Martin, Matthew pavlich, Dale Thomas, Shaun Higgins, Shane Kerston, Ben Lennon
Viv Michie, Jesse Hogan




Round 8 9
Round 9 8
Round 10 13

you will notice im loading up round 10 players. thats becasue i will be mass trading out rookie (Michie, Hogan Naismith, Beams, Dunston, Tyson etc...)


alos possibly have the strgonest backline in the whole comp, like the value up front.

Does that even fit in the salary? I know the fwd line is really weak, but a full back/ruck and solid mids...

It does according the fan planner but it might not in the real game.

[Holz]

So if I was to match our team together this is what it'd be like. Just trying to see whether you think both structures are worthy of doing well next year.

Hibberd v S Thompson  (calling this one even)
Simpson v McDonald ( 95-100 v 70) + 25-30
Tyson v O'Rourke (i think you lose out but they are rookie so calling even)
Goldstein v Sandilands (110-115 v <80) dont see him playing games will miss ones possible vests 30-35+
Higgins v Roughead ( 75 v 95-100) roughy and simpson even but i think higgins beats mcdonald +20-25
Hogan v Franklin ( 70 v 90-100) hogan should go similar to mcdonald and buddy pushing to 100 is best case scenario +20-30
Lennon v Michie (both rookies so calling even)

So i think i gain 25-30 down back and 30-35 in the rucks for a 55-65 gain.

i lose 20-25 and 20-30 so between 40-55

worse case scenario for me is we break even, best case scenario a 25 points per game increase. I also fell like i will be generating more cash from those forward rookies than you do with your backline rookies.

[hawkers65]

had another look this time working out the byes

Jarrad McVeigh, Michael Hibberd, Kade Simpson, Grant Birchall, Matt Suckling,Beau Waters
Matt Scharenberg, Luke Mcdonald

Scott Pendlebury, Joel Selwood, Jobe Watson, Tom Rockliff, Dayne Beams, Dom Tyson, Dominic Sheed, Claye Beams
Luke Dunstan, Jack Martin

Nic Naitanui, Todd Goldstein
Liam McBean, Sam Naismith

Dustin Martin, Matthew pavlich, Dale Thomas, Shaun Higgins, Shane Kerston, Ben Lennon
Viv Michie, Jesse Hogan




Round 8 9
Round 9 8
Round 10 13

you will notice im loading up round 10 players. thats becasue i will be mass trading out rookie (Michie, Hogan Naismith, Beams, Dunston, Tyson etc...)


alos possibly have the strgonest backline in the whole comp, like the value up front.

Does that even fit in the salary? I know the fwd line is really weak, but a full back/ruck and solid mids...

It does according the fan planner but it might not in the real game.

If it does in fan planner than it just goes to show what great team it is! Saying does it fit in the salary and it actually does is the best unintentional compliment there is ;)

[Holz]

Jarrad McVeigh, Michael Hibberd, Kade Simpson, Grant Birchall, Matt Suckling,Beau Waters
Kade Kolodjashnij, Luke Mcdonald

Scott Pendlebury, Joel Selwood,Ryan Griffin Tom Rockliff, Dayne Beams, Dom Tyson, Dominic Sheed, Claye Beams
Luke Dunstan, Jack Martin

Nic Naitanui, Todd Goldstein
Liam McBean, Sam Naismith

Dustin Martin, Matthew pavlich, Dale Thomas, Shaun Higgins, Shane Kerston, Ben Lennon
Viv Michie, Jesse Hogan




Round 8 9
Round 9 9
Round 10 12

two changes, out sharenberg in kadejashinij also out Watson in Griffen.

I just thnk Griffen is a guy you want to finish with and his bye is really helpful. he will be super unique and he was basically the best player in the comp (bar ablett) for half a season.

I cant see many viable options from round 9 in the mid and i think you need at least 2 guys from each bye in each line (except ruck of course).

having tyson beams dunstan will hoepfully mean i can bring in ablett round 10. Maybee something like Dunstant downgrade, Michie downgrade and tyson to ablett.

Pendles Selwood Ablett Beams Griffen Martin Sheed Rookie (C.Beams Rocky) thats a pretty strong round 10 midfield.


the major issue is a severe lack of round 9 rookies so thats why im thinking griffen is almsot a must, as I may have to downgrade sheed and having no round 9 mids is a big problem.

[Ringo]

Nice Team Holz and I like you theory - Just got a concern on Dusty this year in that with capped interchange he may struggle as we have seen him come in and out of games posssibly a fitness issue. Alternatives exist though.
Griffin is an interesting one now that he has been given captaincy may increase again.

I am not really worrying about rookies until Round 1 team announcements.

[Holz]

Nice Team Holz and I like you theory - Just got a concern on Dusty this year in that with capped interchange he may struggle as we have seen him come in and out of games posssibly a fitness issue. Alternatives exist though.
Griffin is an interesting one now that he has been given captaincy may increase again.

I am not really worrying about rookies until Round 1 team announcements.

dont really like the  girffen pick on his own merrits, however I took watson out for him. I think they will average similar and griffen about 20k more expensive but its all about the bye. It could mean that instead of playing a forward or back rookie i get a mid premo's score. that could mean 40-50 points.

doesnt sound like much but thats 1.8 -2.3 points per game so if griffen can outplay watson by just 2 points a game with the bye thats a 4 points per game increase which is worth the 20k.

[_wato]

Nice looking team mate, looks good. Only problem I see is that this definitely wouldn't fit under the salary cap. This would be pushing $100-200k over, one thing you'd have to make sure you fix before the proper SC opens, but I'd sure you'd be aware of that.

I like your thinking regarding Ryan Griffen, but unfortunately I don't think I can fit him in. I think he can become a very valuable pick and I hope it works out for you. One other thing about that Round 9 bye is and regarding what you've been saying is that you have 4 Round 9 premiums in the backline and in that round you'd have your two best premiums but also KK and McDonald filling in those positions. Maybe one of Simpson/Birch to a Round 8 premium? Just a thought.

Good luck Holz.

[Holz]

going by the rookie prices its going to be much harder picking a sqaud (which im a huge fan off)

the price of rookies are going up, which makes mid pricers more apealing now.

[Ringo]

That is assuming SC follows DT Holz need to wait and see.  Bear in mind DT are also increasing their cap.