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Ashes are done, now for the ODIs

Started by PowerBug, October 22, 2013, 07:40:14 PM

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Nails

Why shouldn't have Johnson been recalled? He was our best bowler overseas in the shortform and showed that he deserved a spot in the side.

It's stupid to say he didn't deserve a place.

pyronerd

Quote from: Cicjose on December 24, 2013, 03:20:05 PM
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Maddinson
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Cutting
Pattinson
Cummins
Lyon

27 100s and an an average of 50+ not good enough to give clarke a game? Same for Mitch Johnson and Harris incredible bowling average. Haddin with his amazing avrage cant get a game?

That could be the team.. In 4 years from now but.

in 4 years time their talent will be wasted because they will be on the decline
So you would drop what may currently be the 2nd best bowling attack in the world, one of the top 5 batsman in the world, and our best current keeper? The flower.

the only reason you think that players peak after 30 is because Australia kept their side together forever after reaching number 1......
tell me, what exactly is the point of forever looking to the future? what makes the next ashes series more important than this one, or the 2019 world cup more important than the 2015 one? I don't see the point of building for the future in cricket. Sure if you have 2 players to select from that you want to bring in and cement a spot in the best XI, if it's a toss up, pick the younger one, but otherwise we should just pick our best team for every series, regardless of age.

PowerBug

Quote from: Nails on December 24, 2013, 03:34:31 PM
Why shouldn't have Johnson been recalled? He was our best bowler overseas in the shortform and showed that he deserved a spot in the side.

It's stupid to say he didn't deserve a place.
He did get lucky through other injuries, and I believe it was a good chance to give another younger bowler a chance at the top level. However can't dispute anything now, he carved up the English, made one go home and another retire, do not drop him now. :o
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The_Captain

Quote from: GoLions16 on December 24, 2013, 03:31:15 PM
Quote from: Cicjose on December 24, 2013, 03:20:05 PM
Quote from: GoLions16 on December 24, 2013, 02:57:49 PM
Quote from: Cicjose on December 24, 2013, 02:49:33 PM
Quote from: noto07 on December 24, 2013, 02:43:09 PM
Quote from: Cicjose on December 24, 2013, 02:38:05 PM
Maddinson
Warner
Khawaja
Hughes
Burns
Doolan
Wade
Cutting
Pattinson
Cummins
Lyon

27 100s and an an average of 50+ not good enough to give clarke a game? Same for Mitch Johnson and Harris incredible bowling average. Haddin with his amazing avrage cant get a game?

That could be the team.. In 4 years from now but.

in 4 years time their talent will be wasted because they will be on the decline
So you would drop what may currently be the 2nd best bowling attack in the world, one of the top 5 batsman in the world, and our best current keeper? The flower.

the only reason you think that players peak after 30 is because Australia kept their side together forever after reaching number 1......
In that case, you should ask SA to drop these players:
Smith, Kallis, Peterson, Amla, Steyn, Tahir (shower anyway)
And then ABdV, Faf, Morkel, Duminy are all 29, so may as well kick them out as well.

This leaves Philander at 28, who then only has 2 years left at best.

AHAHAh owned again!!!!

Cicjose

Quote from: pyronerd on December 24, 2013, 03:38:07 PM
Quote from: Cicjose on December 24, 2013, 03:20:05 PM
Quote from: GoLions16 on December 24, 2013, 02:57:49 PM
Quote from: Cicjose on December 24, 2013, 02:49:33 PM
Quote from: noto07 on December 24, 2013, 02:43:09 PM
Quote from: Cicjose on December 24, 2013, 02:38:05 PM
Maddinson
Warner
Khawaja
Hughes
Burns
Doolan
Wade
Cutting
Pattinson
Cummins
Lyon

27 100s and an an average of 50+ not good enough to give clarke a game? Same for Mitch Johnson and Harris incredible bowling average. Haddin with his amazing avrage cant get a game?

That could be the team.. In 4 years from now but.

in 4 years time their talent will be wasted because they will be on the decline
So you would drop what may currently be the 2nd best bowling attack in the world, one of the top 5 batsman in the world, and our best current keeper? The flower.

the only reason you think that players peak after 30 is because Australia kept their side together forever after reaching number 1......
tell me, what exactly is the point of forever looking to the future? what makes the next ashes series more important than this one, or the 2019 world cup more important than the 2015 one? I don't see the point of building for the future in cricket. Sure if you have 2 players to select from that you want to bring in and cement a spot in the best XI, if it's a toss up, pick the younger one, but otherwise we should just pick our best team for every series, regardless of age.

well then lets get rid of the domestic competition then see where that leaves this team since that's what you are suggesting
Australia would be lucky to make it to the semis of the world cup with this team

and if it wasnt for the qualifiers they wouldn't make it out of their group with the team they have now

and how am i owned?

South Africa can play whoever they want because they are the number 1 team in the world

The_Captain

Quote from: Cicjose on December 24, 2013, 03:54:46 PM
Quote from: pyronerd on December 24, 2013, 03:38:07 PM
Quote from: Cicjose on December 24, 2013, 03:20:05 PM
Quote from: GoLions16 on December 24, 2013, 02:57:49 PM
Quote from: Cicjose on December 24, 2013, 02:49:33 PM
Quote from: noto07 on December 24, 2013, 02:43:09 PM
Quote from: Cicjose on December 24, 2013, 02:38:05 PM
Maddinson
Warner
Khawaja
Hughes
Burns
Doolan
Wade
Cutting
Pattinson
Cummins
Lyon

27 100s and an an average of 50+ not good enough to give clarke a game? Same for Mitch Johnson and Harris incredible bowling average. Haddin with his amazing avrage cant get a game?

That could be the team.. In 4 years from now but.

in 4 years time their talent will be wasted because they will be on the decline
So you would drop what may currently be the 2nd best bowling attack in the world, one of the top 5 batsman in the world, and our best current keeper? The flower.

the only reason you think that players peak after 30 is because Australia kept their side together forever after reaching number 1......
tell me, what exactly is the point of forever looking to the future? what makes the next ashes series more important than this one, or the 2019 world cup more important than the 2015 one? I don't see the point of building for the future in cricket. Sure if you have 2 players to select from that you want to bring in and cement a spot in the best XI, if it's a toss up, pick the younger one, but otherwise we should just pick our best team for every series, regardless of age.

well then lets get rid of the domestic competition then see where that leaves this team since that's what you are suggesting
Australia would be lucky to make it to the semis of the world cup with this team

and if it wasnt for the qualifiers they wouldn't make it out of their group with the team they have now

and how am i owned?

South Africa can play whoever they want because they are the number 1 team in the world

OWNED!!!!

me

age should really be thrown out the window, or at least be the last criteria to considered when selecting a team

bit like footy, why always plan for the future??? seems like half of the footy clubs are in a state of perpetual planning for future and never actually realizing the NOW aspect because future is ever changing, always uncertain and never guaranteed

Justin Bieber

Quote from: Cicjose on December 24, 2013, 02:38:05 PM
Maddinson
Warner
Khawaja
Hughes
Burns
Doolan
Wade
Cutting
Pattinson
Cummins
Lyon
He's lost the plot!!

JBs-Hawks

Quote from: Cicjose on December 24, 2013, 03:54:46 PM
Quote from: pyronerd on December 24, 2013, 03:38:07 PM
Quote from: Cicjose on December 24, 2013, 03:20:05 PM
Quote from: GoLions16 on December 24, 2013, 02:57:49 PM
Quote from: Cicjose on December 24, 2013, 02:49:33 PM
Quote from: noto07 on December 24, 2013, 02:43:09 PM
Quote from: Cicjose on December 24, 2013, 02:38:05 PM
Maddinson
Warner
Khawaja
Hughes
Burns
Doolan
Wade
Cutting
Pattinson
Cummins
Lyon

27 100s and an an average of 50+ not good enough to give clarke a game? Same for Mitch Johnson and Harris incredible bowling average. Haddin with his amazing avrage cant get a game?

That could be the team.. In 4 years from now but.

in 4 years time their talent will be wasted because they will be on the decline
So you would drop what may currently be the 2nd best bowling attack in the world, one of the top 5 batsman in the world, and our best current keeper? The flower.

the only reason you think that players peak after 30 is because Australia kept their side together forever after reaching number 1......
tell me, what exactly is the point of forever looking to the future? what makes the next ashes series more important than this one, or the 2019 world cup more important than the 2015 one? I don't see the point of building for the future in cricket. Sure if you have 2 players to select from that you want to bring in and cement a spot in the best XI, if it's a toss up, pick the younger one, but otherwise we should just pick our best team for every series, regardless of age.

well then lets get rid of the domestic competition then see where that leaves this team since that's what you are suggesting
Australia would be lucky to make it to the semis of the world cup with this team

and if it wasnt for the qualifiers they wouldn't make it out of their group with the team they have now

and how am i owned?

South Africa can play whoever they want because they are the number 1 team in the world


Are you flowering retarded? You keep saying we should scrap the domestic scene cos we play the best available player?  Yet you want to bring in unproven players before they are proven at domestic therefore ruling out the point of domestic cricket?  We sre using it howits meant to be right now but not letting age and potential shade oir selections.


Cicjose

except no players in the squad were not selected on their First Class scores

therefore there is no point to the First Class comp if you won't pick those scoring runs in First Class

Mailman the 2nd

Quote from: Cicjose on December 24, 2013, 04:48:18 PM
except no players in the squad were not selected on their First Class scores

therefore there is no point to the First Class comp if you won't pick those scoring runs in First Class

Name one player in the current squad that wasn't picked on domestic form

Justin Bieber

Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on December 24, 2013, 04:49:19 PM
Quote from: Cicjose on December 24, 2013, 04:48:18 PM
except no players in the squad were not selected on their First Class scores

therefore there is no point to the First Class comp if you won't pick those scoring runs in First Class

Name one player in the current squad that wasn't picked on domestic form
Yeah how was Clarke picked 10 years ago? Didn't he score like an 80 or so after coming home from India early?

Mailman the 2nd

Quote from: whatlez on December 24, 2013, 04:50:49 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on December 24, 2013, 04:49:19 PM
Quote from: Cicjose on December 24, 2013, 04:48:18 PM
except no players in the squad were not selected on their First Class scores

therefore there is no point to the First Class comp if you won't pick those scoring runs in First Class

Name one player in the current squad that wasn't picked on domestic form
Yeah how was Clarke picked 10 years ago? Didn't he score like an 80 or so after coming home from India early?
Yeah he was

In fact, if you can same any player from any international squad who wasn't selected from domestic/first class form since 2000, I'll give you $100,000.

Cicjose

Bailey wasn't picked on domestic First Class form for one

Mailman the 2nd

Quote from: Cicjose on December 24, 2013, 04:55:23 PM
Bailey wasn't picked on domestic First Class form for one

Bailey is the 4th best ODI batsman in the world, only reason he got selected for ODI was because he did so well as a first class player.

Poor troll is poor