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Started by PowerBug, October 22, 2013, 07:40:14 PM

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Noz

To be perfectly honest I'm not even a fan of Lyon.


Jay

Quote from: Noz on November 25, 2013, 11:41:35 PM
To be perfectly honest I'm not even a fan of Lyon.
Got to give credit where credit is due though. He outbowled the "best spinner in the world" in the first test...

Scrads

Quote from: NigeyS on November 25, 2013, 11:36:41 PM
Quote from: Jayman on November 25, 2013, 11:16:25 PM
Nige, can you please tell me what Lyon has done to make you dislike him? Top bloke imo and our best spinner since Warne, not including StueyM of course...
I can't really say there's one thing in particular if I'm to be honest, I really just have never been a fan of the guy. I really do prefer nearly every other spinner we have playing domestic cricket haha.

Quote from: Scrads on November 25, 2013, 11:22:27 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on November 25, 2013, 10:36:50 PM
2. Graeme Swann fan.

We can stop talking about it now lads, this is all the proof we need that Nigey swings the way of England. NO ONE LIKES GRAEME SWANN UNLESS THEY SUPPORT THE POMS :P

*disclaimer: not intended to be a 'bash' post, have no problem with whoever Nigey supports (whether that be a team or neutral). More made the post to have a crack at Swann haha.
I'm aware of this haha. I don't know why he's so hated though, much better than all of England's other spinners.

It is the fact that he is good that contributes to the hate, and also his arrogant, cocky and smirk-ridden face/attitude! haha

Bill Manspeaker

and his stupid ridiculously massive jaw and stupid smile

he does have a good sense of humour though so while I don't like him on the field, I reckon he'd be a mad bloke to have a few drinks with

Nige

Quote from: Scrads on November 25, 2013, 11:44:55 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on November 25, 2013, 11:36:41 PM
Quote from: Jayman on November 25, 2013, 11:16:25 PM
Nige, can you please tell me what Lyon has done to make you dislike him? Top bloke imo and our best spinner since Warne, not including StueyM of course...
I can't really say there's one thing in particular if I'm to be honest, I really just have never been a fan of the guy. I really do prefer nearly every other spinner we have playing domestic cricket haha.

Quote from: Scrads on November 25, 2013, 11:22:27 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on November 25, 2013, 10:36:50 PM
2. Graeme Swann fan.

We can stop talking about it now lads, this is all the proof we need that Nigey swings the way of England. NO ONE LIKES GRAEME SWANN UNLESS THEY SUPPORT THE POMS :P

*disclaimer: not intended to be a 'bash' post, have no problem with whoever Nigey supports (whether that be a team or neutral). More made the post to have a crack at Swann haha.
I'm aware of this haha. I don't know why he's so hated though, much better than all of England's other spinners.

It is the fact that he is good that contributes to the hate, and also his arrogant, cocky and smirk-ridden face/attitude! haha
One of the things I do like about Swanny is the fact that he is good and knows it (hence the arrogance/cockiness) and he plays it up for a laugh (although most people, mainly opposition and their supporters, don't like it).

Noz

Quote from: Jayman on November 25, 2013, 11:42:55 PM
Quote from: Noz on November 25, 2013, 11:41:35 PM
To be perfectly honest I'm not even a fan of Lyon.
Got to give credit where credit is due though. He outbowled the "best spinner in the world" in the first test...

Yeah he bowled very well and getting 4 for 63 from 29 overs is bloody awesome, Lyon said before the test that the Gabba was his first pitch to bowl on and he has the stats to back it up i just think that the only reason Lyon is playing test cricket is because we don't have another spinner capable of stepping up to the big stage yet. Lyon is the best spinner we have because we don't have many to choose from.

Adamant

Lyon is a gun! best spinner in the country for sure.

Noz

Quote from: Adamant on November 25, 2013, 11:51:06 PM
Lyon is a gun! best spinner in the country for sure.

Because spinners in Australia are a dying breed.

Nige

Steve Smith is reportedly working on his leg spin again, if he can improve it just a tad more (not necessarily perfect it), that'll be really good for the Aussie team.  :)

Noz

The only other player contracted by cricket australia is Doherty and he can not play tests for shower. We don't have anyone else so we just play Lyon in wait of someone else to come along.

Scrads

Quote from: Noz on November 25, 2013, 11:54:48 PM
The only other player contracted by cricket australia is Doherty and he can not play tests for shower. We don't have anyone else so we just play Lyon in wait of someone else to come along.

Been saying for years that Steve O'Keefe should be getting a gig.

specky92

Quote from: NigeyS on November 25, 2013, 11:52:42 PM
Steve Smith is reportedly working on his leg spin again, if he can improve it just a tad more (not necessarily perfect it), that'll be really good for the Aussie team.  :)
A left arm very fast bowler (occasional in swing)
A right arm fast genuine wicket taker (occasional out swing)
A right arm fast seam bowler (very consistent)
A right arm off spin bowler
A right arm medium pacer
A right arm leg spinner
A left arm off spin bowler (Clarkey - barely bowls)


Doubt many teams can match that in the history of the game without compromising their batting. That would be a serious weapon, pretty much got all types if bowling covered, right handed and left. Probably missing a genuine swing bowler (Anderson, Hilfenhaus, Stein)




@Noz, what happened to Agar?

Noz

#777
Agar isn't contracted by Cricket Australia.

Jay

I disagree, Noz. Lyon is not just a "fill-in", he is a long term building block for the Aus team.

Steve's Smiths leggies are a luxury, not a necessity :)

@speck. Agar has never been able to bowl with any consistency or wicket-taking ability. Love the kid though.

Nails

I don't think you have to be contracted to play though do you?

If I recall correctly uncontracted players still get games from time to time...