Ashes are done, now for the ODIs

[fidou]

Someone hasn't made a comment since about 3 o'clock today mmmmm wonder whats going on?

[Mailman the 2nd]

Onya way Jukesy!

[Jay]

Please refrain from stirring Jukes up. Although its hard, the more he cops it now, the more he'll come back with when England have their great day. Which is going to happen sooner or later.

[Nige]

Please refrain from stirring Jukes up. Although its hard, the more he cops it now, the more he'll come back with when England have their great day. Which is going to happen sooner or later.

#respect

[Jay]

Please refrain from stirring Jukes up. Although its hard, the more he cops it now, the more he'll come back with when England have their great day. Which is going to happen sooner or later.

#respect

:D

[PowerBug]

I'd like to start discussion on Australia's tactics today. I have my personal views on it, and they even though they worked, I do not think that cricket should be played the way Australia did today. It's ok to target the short ball as a weakness, and try to remove a batsman by such method. However I do not think that targetting every batsman with only short balls for a good 15 overs is the way to do so. Some serious damage could've been done therem thankfully nothing happened though. Good to see Broad and Tremlett kept their heads and didn't lose their cool, as I think they had the right to.

[Nige]

I'd like to start discussion on Australia's tactics today. I have my personal views on it, and they even though they worked, I do not think that cricket should be played the way Australia did today. It's ok to target the short ball as a weakness, and try to remove a batsman by such method. However I do not think that targetting every batsman with only short balls for a good 15 overs is the way to do so. Some serious damage could've been done therem thankfully nothing happened though. Good to see Broad and Tremlett kept their heads and didn't lose their cool, as I think they had the right to.

I do agree.

Even though it was effective, it wasn't pretty.

[Jay]

No problem with it at all. Its the Ashes, emotions are flying high, nothing better than some short-pitched stuff to get the crowd going and let the Poms know that we really mean business. If they expect to win in Australia, should be able to handle the bouncier pitches like the Gabba.

[Nige]

No problem with it at all. Its the Ashes, emotions are flying high, nothing better than some short-pitched stuff to get the crowd going and let the Poms know that we really mean business. If they expect to win in Australia, should be able to handle the bouncier pitches like the Gabba.

15 overs of it is just dangerous though. Mitch Johnson bowls some quick stuff, copping one on the scone wouldn't just tickle...

[Jay]

No problem with it at all. Its the Ashes, emotions are flying high, nothing better than some short-pitched stuff to get the crowd going and let the Poms know that we really mean business. If they expect to win in Australia, should be able to handle the bouncier pitches like the Gabba.

15 overs of it is just dangerous though. Mitch Johnson bowls some quick stuff, copping one on the scone wouldn't just tickle...

Of course, but thats Ashes cricket mate. Blame England, they started it all those years ago ;)

[My Chumps]

Jukes is going to give it to us whether we give it to him now or not :P

And it's all part of the game. Can't take a little banter then get off the forum.

No problem with it at all. Its the Ashes, emotions are flying high, nothing better than some short-pitched stuff to get the crowd going and let the Poms know that we really mean business. If they expect to win in Australia, should be able to handle the bouncier pitches like the Gabba.

15 overs of it is just dangerous though. Mitch Johnson bowls some quick stuff, copping one on the scone wouldn't just tickle...

Of course, but thats Ashes cricket mate. Blame England, they started it all those years ago ;)

The stupid thing about it is that I think we would've had more success in getting Tremlett/Anderson out late in the day without using the short ball.

[BB67th]

I think the short stuff was all about getting a mental edge, and I think it might have worked.

The English bowlers bowled well against the Aussies and deserved a rest, but instead they are forced to come out against some short pitched bowling and are hit on the hand a lot. Then they have to come out and bowl again this afternoon and have us none down at stumps. That must be exhausting for them and they will be physically and mentally drained. They also know what kind of short stuff they can expect every time they come out to bowl, so that will always be on their minds.

[Ringo]

No problem with it at all. Its the Ashes, emotions are flying high, nothing better than some short-pitched stuff to get the crowd going and let the Poms know that we really mean business. If they expect to win in Australia, should be able to handle the bouncier pitches like the Gabba.

15 overs of it is just dangerous though. Mitch Johnson bowls some quick stuff, copping one on the scone wouldn't just tickle...

Of course, but thats Ashes cricket mate. Blame England, they started it all those years ago ;)

So Broad did not use the rising ball to get wickets  (Ask Clarke) Come on it is a legitimate tactic that can be used and if a batsmen has a weakness againt it it has to be exploited.
Great to see a true ashes stoush in this test reminded me of some of the great Gabba Tests I have witnessed.

[Nails]

It's not like they were bowling venomous head hunting bouncer after venomous head hunting bouncer. We're not the dirty bodyline poms ;)

And Jukes is a tosser and is intentionally inflammatory. Give him all you want.

They were bowling short balls, but not deliberate head hunting chin music. Short of a length is no less a legitimate delivery than pitched up.

[PowerBug]

No problem with it at all. Its the Ashes, emotions are flying high, nothing better than some short-pitched stuff to get the crowd going and let the Poms know that we really mean business. If they expect to win in Australia, should be able to handle the bouncier pitches like the Gabba.

15 overs of it is just dangerous though. Mitch Johnson bowls some quick stuff, copping one on the scone wouldn't just tickle...

Of course, but thats Ashes cricket mate. Blame England, they started it all those years ago ;)

So Broad did not use the rising ball to get wickets  (Ask Clarke) Come on it is a legitimate tactic that can be used and if a batsmen has a weakness againt it it has to be exploited.
Great to see a true ashes stoush in this test reminded me of some of the great Gabba Tests I have witnessed.

However ant no time did Stuart Broad go around thw wicket and set that leg side field. And he also only does is to Clarke on a regular basis. It was obvious today that Australia were playing for that to the whole of England's tail and nearly all of the team tbh.