Ashes are done, now for the ODIs

[Nige]

Yeah, Swanny compared the series loss to rape...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-12-19/swann-causes-storm-comparing-ashes-loss-to-rape/5167100

[Justin Bieber]

What a flowering sook. Disgrace.

[Nails]

Swann was bowling and playing shower

He got humiliated out of Australia and into retirement. Yes he is egotistical, he's retiring so his stats look better. He wants to retire right now so he doesn't become just another spinner with a 30+ average

Right now he has taken 255 wickets at 29.96 and he knows if he played another test it'd likely balloon to 30+ so he's just trying to make himself look good

#showerbloke #cantgetawicket

[BB67th]

Fair enough by him. If he was going to retire at the end of the series he might as well go now, no point staying around.

Who will England's next spinner be though? Panesar? Kerrigan?

[Nige]

Fair enough by him. If he was going to retire at the end of the series he might as well go now, no point staying around.

Who will England's next spinner be though? Panesar? Kerrigan?

Hopefully neither.  :P

I'd say Kerrigan. Still young. Could easily be their spinner for the next 10 years. Monty's like 31 and isn't that great.

[Toga]

But Monty gets the ladies ;)

[Nige]

But Monty gets the ladies ;)

Needs to get the wickets though.  :P

[Master Q]

Who actually thinks he would of retired at the end of the series?

If he wanted to retire he would of done it before/after the England Ashes series.

That was my first thought anyway. IMO I think things have gotten to his head (ego) and possibly is just a sore loser....

[Nige]

Who actually thinks he would of retired at the end of the series?

If he wanted to retire he would of done it before/after the England Ashes series.

That was my first thought anyway. IMO I think things have gotten to his head (ego) and possibly is just a sore loser....

I do.

Having back to back series (England leg, now Australian one), if he had retired after the England series, he could have potentially missed out on winning both series.

[Mailman the 2nd]

He would've had it in the back of his mind and I don't think England cricket can see him being a part of fixing their issues

[BB67th]

If he had no intentions of going to the next World Cup, then this was probably the time to retire. England were such resounding favourites going into the series he thought he would come over here and get a nice farewell with another Ashes win. If there hadn't been back to back Ashes, he would've retired after the end of the English Summer.

[Nige]

If he had no intentions of going to the next World Cup, then this was probably the time to retire. England were such resounding favourites going into the series he thought he would come over here and get a nice farewell with another Ashes win. If there hadn't been back to back Ashes, he would've retired after the end of the English Summer.

This is, in essence, what I was trying to say but I didn't phrase it as well.

[me]

don't see why people are bagging swanny over retiring ... its completely fair enough... he's had a great career, dominated us in past ashes series, while battling a nagging elbow/shoulder injury his whole career

sure he's a pretty hatable guy as an aussie supporter, but gotta admit, he has character and identity, and right hand offspin is a tough art that he's done pretty well at and been an integral part of the successful england team last 4 or 5 years

[Toga]

I'm certainly not bagging him about retiring, got no issues with it at all. I think everyone's just pretty happy that our boys have sent the Poms into shambles ;D

And I never really liked Swann :P

[Toga]

Still one of my favourite things I've seen on the net, Wikipedia doesn't lie :P