Sachin Tendulkar Retires

[Noz]

agree with sangakkara being right up there, amazing player and particularly in the subcontinent --- his record as a nonkeeper is unbelievable (think his average as nonwicketkeeper is nearly 70!)

High Score 287 (first innings after giving up gloves and part of highest partnership of all time)

That was an incredible innings actually he holds 3 of the top 5 all time record partnerships of all time.

[Jay]

Sachin a great? Yes! But Nigey is out of his flowering mind if he thinks he's on the same level as Bradman. Cmon man!

I would definitely pick Kallis in my team over Sachin...

Its funny that you call me bias :P Don > Kallis > Sachin

[Nige]

Comparing (the flavour of the month... and you know, since that's what this thread is now about) this to the Mike Hussey retirement thread...

Amazing how Huss was given a lovely congratulations on his career and it was left at that.

And in this thread, Sachin Tendulkar - arguably the best batsman of all time, gets a few congratulations and gets people debating his career/stats etc. Rather than strip him down and compare him to people, why don't we celebrate his career instead and talk about the wonderful things he did?

[PowerBug]

Because that would be too easy and boring.

[Jay]

Comparing (the flavour of the month... and you know, since that's what this thread is now about) this to the Mike Hussey retirement thread...

Amazing how Huss was given a lovely congratulations on his career and it was left at that.

And in this thread, Sachin Tendulkar - arguably the best batsman of all time, gets a few congratulations and gets people debating his career/stats etc. Rather than strip him down and compare him to people, why don't we celebrate his career instead and talk about the wonderful things he did?

I only started because you put him on the same level as the Don mate... Sachin is a great and has had many awesome moments. But I'd say he is one of the best batsman of the last 20 years, would not even go close to saying he is arguably the greatest bat ever. ::)

[Nige]

Its funny that you call me bias :P Don > Kallis > Sachin

Its funny because you're one of the most patriotic and/or bias people on this site and saying "Don > Kallis > Sachin" exemplifies that.

If you've read what I have said in this thread. I never said Kallis or Bradman weren't great. I think they are/were both very brilliant cricketers.

Jacques Kallis is one of my favourite cricketers for the record.

I'm saying an argument can be made for Sachin being the greatest batsman, but I'm not going to make it. If it was up to me to pick one of them (as a batsman), I'd pick Sachin. Otherwise, I'd definitely take Kallis.

Maybe it's the Indian in me...

I only started because you put him on the same level as the Don mate... Sachin is a great and has had many awesome moments. But I'd say he is one of the best batsman of the last 20 years, would not even go close to saying he is arguably the greatest bat ever. ::)

Sorry Jay, I didn't realise I wasn't allowed to have an opinion. I think he can be placed on the same level, please excuse the fact that I'm not a biased individual.

[Jay]

Fair enough you love Sachin, I do too! A great of the game :)

But I really can not see any argument at all for him being a better batsman than Don or a better cricketer than Kallis. Go ahead and make one if you like.

[PowerBug]

I think the only argument Sachin lovers have is 16000 runs and 24 years of playing. It is a darn good point however. :P

[Jay]

I think the only argument Sachin lovers have is 16000 runs and 24 years of playing. It is a darn good point however. :P

Yes of course but imagine if some of the other greats played for that long :o

[Noz]

I think the only argument Sachin lovers have is 16000 runs and 24 years of playing. It is a darn good point however. :P

Yes of course but imagine if some of the other greats played for that long :o

Plus i don't think anyone can say they played through 4 decades.  ;)

[PowerBug]

I think the only argument Sachin lovers have is 16000 runs and 24 years of playing. It is a darn good point however. :P

Yes of course but imagine if some of the other greats played for that long :o

Plus i don't think anyone can say they played through 4 decades.  ;)

And all were at such a high level too. I think that is another important point to remember, the consistency. I don't have stats on his averages after 10, 25, 50, 100 tests, but there wouldn't be much difference, as opposed to someone like Ponting who hit 58 and finished under 52 five years later.

Tendulkar is probably good enough to keep going. He was good enough at 16, and he's just as good at 40.

Edit:
I think I've just made the "extend everyone's career to 200 tests" theory to promote the others blow up in all our faces. :P

[CrowsFan]

I think the only argument Sachin lovers have is 16000 runs and 24 years of playing. It is a darn good point however. :P

Yes of course but imagine if some of the other greats played for that long :o

Plus i don't think anyone can say they played through 4 decades.  ;)

And all were at such a high level too. I think that is another important point to remember, the consistency. I don't have stats on his averages after 10, 25, 50, 100 tests, but there wouldn't be much difference, as opposed to someone like Ponting who hit 58 and finished under 52 five years later.

Tendulkar is probably good enough to keep going. He was good enough at 16, and he's just as good at 40.

Edit:
I think I've just made the "extend everyone's career to 200 tests" theory to promote the others blow up in all our faces. :P

Wasn't Ponting's average over 60 at one point?

[PowerBug]

Really? Didn't know that. :o wow. Then that's a huge drop.

[Noz]

In the last 3 years of playing Tendulkar scored 8 hundreds whilst Pointing scored 4. Sangakkara on the other hand as scored 12 test hundreds in 3 years and Kallis has 14 hundreds.

Kallis > Sangakkara > Tendulkar > Pointing.

[PowerBug]

Kallis is easily the most valuable player in the world, possibly of all time. His records and achievements are astonishing.