Buddy to be a Swan!

[My Chumps]

Don't give up Reid for Christs sake.

[SydneyRox]

Don't give up Reid for Christs sake.

Agreed. Would need to be a good offer...

[Ricochet]

Don't give up Reid for Christs sake.

Agreed. Would need to be a good offer...

Silvagni  ;)

[henry]

Posted this in the hawks board too, but this thread seems for active. Can anyone answer these questions? I'm utterly bemused.

Would have respected buddy going to the giants, but swans??? cow can eat a dick!

Same.. do not understand at all a few things about this move.

1) How sydney can afford it at all, having poached tippett last year.
The common response to this on social media has been that a lot of players are leaving. Ok, let's have a look. Swans that have left the club are are likely to this offseason: Mumford, White, Bolton, Matner, Brown.

Brown is a rookie that didn't play a game, would be on hardly any money whatsoever. White was a fringe player until this season, so wouldn't be on much either. Bolton would be on a fair amount, but he's a veteran so a considerable amount of that doesn't go under the cap. Mumford would be on a fair bit, granted. Matner and Morton would be on average amounts.

How the hell can they afford 1.4million a year on 1 player if they spent big money on another player last year.

Say whatever you want about the salary cap, but a system that allows a team who won a premiership top up their list with the 2 highest paid forwards in the game in the next 2 years without all that much leaving as yet is ridiculous and clearly not doing its desired job.

2) Why do sydney want him?
Reid, Pyke, Mumford, White, Tippett, Franklin and probably a couple of other lesser names are in their squad which play key forward roles.  Even if Mumford and White leave as expected, that's still a surplus. Why would they spend so much money on a player who will not improve their list that much??

3) Why did buddy choose them?

It was commonly speculated and logically assumed that the reason Buddy would be leaving is money. Why then would he choose to go to sydney, where he earns $600k a year less than GWS? Is it because they are a better premiership chance? Well I think Hawthorn are clearly a stronger chance for next years premiership than Sydney, perhaps more so that buddy has left now lol.  It's not like he hasn't got mates at the hawks, and I can't see him fitting into sydneys team focused culture well at all. I could understand him going to gwsI am struggling to understand why he would leave to sydney.

I am disappointed that he's left, although I don't believe those who think we are a better team without him (when he's at full fitness unlike he was for the majority of the year) I don't think he will adversely effect us too much, providing we can pick up someone decent like mumford in this trade period. I can't really begrudge him leaving after giving us 2 premierships and 8 years service, I am just disappointed and can't understand how or why he can go to sydney.

[Ricochet]

I gave a reply in the other thread as well.

Would have respected buddy going to the giants, but swans??? cow can eat a dick!

Same.. do not understand at all a few things about this move.

1) How sydney can afford it at all, having poached tippett last year.
The common response to this on social media has been that a lot of players are leaving. Ok, let's have a look. Swans that have left the club are are likely to this offseason: Mumford, White, Bolton, Matner, Brown.

Brown is a rookie that didn't play a game, would be on hardly any money whatsoever. White was a fringe player until this season, so wouldn't be on much either. Bolton would be on a fair amount, but he's a veteran so a considerable amount of that doesn't go under the cap. Mumford would be on a fair bit, granted. Matner and Morton would be on average amounts.

How the hell can they afford 1.4million a year on 1 player if they spent big money on another player last year.

Say whatever you want about the salary cap, but a system that allows a team who won a premiership top up their list with the 2 highest paid forwards in the game in the next 2 years without all that much leaving as yet is ridiculous and clearly not doing its desired job.

2) Why do sydney want him?
Reid, Pyke, Mumford, White, Tippett, Franklin and probably a couple of other lesser names are in their squad which play key forward roles.  Even if Mumford and White leave as expected, that's still a surplus. Why would they spend so much money on a player who will not improve their list that much??

3) Why did buddy choose them?

It was commonly speculated and logically assumed that the reason Buddy would be leaving is money. Why then would he choose to go to sydney, where he earns $600k a year less than GWS? Is it because they are a better premiership chance? Well I think Hawthorn are clearly a stronger chance for next years premiership than Sydney, perhaps more so that buddy has left now lol.  It's not like he hasn't got mates at the hawks, and I can't see him fitting into sydneys team focused culture well at all. I could understand him going to gwsI am struggling to understand why he would leave to sydney.

I am disappointed that he's left, although I don't believe those who think we are a better team without him (when he's at full fitness unlike he was for the majority of the year) I don't think he will adversely effect us too much, providing we can pick up someone decent like mumford in this trade period. I can't really begrudge him leaving after giving us 2 premierships and 8 years service, I am just disappointed and can't understand how or why he can go to sydney.

1) I dunno either mate. But this was posted earlier in the day.

Trade Radio ‏@traderadio 1m
This is what @craighutchy said on @FootyClassified last Monday re Buddy to the @sydneyswans #TradeDebate pic.twitter.com/I8PEAB25OW



2) No flowering idea why they need him, unless there is something else already in motion :o

3) Stated somewhere else before, have it from a very good source the Buddy hates the limelight outside of footy and the constant attention that affects his personal life. Loves the fact he'll be able to walk down Sydney's streets and not be hassled as much as Melbourne. It is a major factor in this move. The money is similar at both GWS and Sydney, so then it comes down to premierships i guess. He has a greater chance of winning another at Sydney

[Ricochet]

flower me. Lots of reports of a 9 year deal from Sydney!

[Nige]

Yep, Twitter's now abuzz with talk of a 9 year deal.

Buddy's 26...  :o

[henry]

flower me. Lots of reports of a 9 year deal from Sydney!

If that's the case that's bizzarre. Surely it would have to be top heavy there's no guarantees he'd be any good at all in 7 years let alone 9. This would have to be unprecedented in the afl if it were true... we shall see.

[Mailman the 2nd]

Posted this in the hawks board too, but this thread seems for active. Can anyone answer these questions? I'm utterly bemused.

Would have respected buddy going to the giants, but swans??? cow can eat a dick!

Same.. do not understand at all a few things about this move.

1) How sydney can afford it at all, having poached tippett last year.
The common response to this on social media has been that a lot of players are leaving. Ok, let's have a look. Swans that have left the club are are likely to this offseason: Mumford, White, Bolton, Matner, Brown.

Brown is a rookie that didn't play a game, would be on hardly any money whatsoever. White was a fringe player until this season, so wouldn't be on much either. Bolton would be on a fair amount, but he's a veteran so a considerable amount of that doesn't go under the cap. Mumford would be on a fair bit, granted. Matner and Morton would be on average amounts.

How the hell can they afford 1.4million a year on 1 player if they spent big money on another player last year.

Say whatever you want about the salary cap, but a system that allows a team who won a premiership top up their list with the 2 highest paid forwards in the game in the next 2 years without all that much leaving as yet is ridiculous and clearly not doing its desired job.

2) Why do sydney want him?
Reid, Pyke, Mumford, White, Tippett, Franklin and probably a couple of other lesser names are in their squad which play key forward roles.  Even if Mumford and White leave as expected, that's still a surplus. Why would they spend so much money on a player who will not improve their list that much??

3) Why did buddy choose them?

It was commonly speculated and logically assumed that the reason Buddy would be leaving is money. Why then would he choose to go to sydney, where he earns $600k a year less than GWS? Is it because they are a better premiership chance? Well I think Hawthorn are clearly a stronger chance for next years premiership than Sydney, perhaps more so that buddy has left now lol.  It's not like he hasn't got mates at the hawks, and I can't see him fitting into sydneys team focused culture well at all. I could understand him going to gwsI am struggling to understand why he would leave to sydney.

I am disappointed that he's left, although I don't believe those who think we are a better team without him (when he's at full fitness unlike he was for the majority of the year) I don't think he will adversely effect us too much, providing we can pick up someone decent like mumford in this trade period. I can't really begrudge him leaving after giving us 2 premierships and 8 years service, I am just disappointed and can't understand how or why he can go to sydney.

From what I can see.

1) Mumford was on quite a bit more than you think, White was signed on a 3 year odd deal with a decent amount of money. He he was given the contract, it was thought he'd easily be the big forward. Bolton leaving allows another veteran listing whos on more money.

2) Who wouldn't want the best forward in the competition. Also stops GWS from getting him. Brings in lots of revenue too.

3) You'd have to wait for Franklin to release his statement. Obviously he set his mind on heading to Sydney area.

[Nige]

Mark Howard ‏@MarkHoward03 3m

True story. In a Sydney cab at the mo. Asked the cabbie what he thought about Bud to the Swans. "Who?" Ambassador money justified it seems.

Impromptu ‏@ImpromptuSC 3m

I'm no expert in AFL contract negotiations but isn't a 9 year deal bad risk management from Sydney's behalf.

[Nige]

Another golden tweet.

Laurence Rosen ‏@MVFCLR22 5m

It is 2055. Franklin is still plying his trade for Sydney, Andy D is still CEO and Dustin Fletcher has just signed a contract extension.

[SydneyRox]

Cant be a nine year playing deal??

[Ricochet]

Cameron Luke ‏@camluke 4m
In 2010 the NHL rejected a long deal because they believed the Player wouldnt play that long. Could the @afl follow? http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=328025

[Nige]

Essendon FC ‏@Essendon_FC 2m

Should we offer Fletch a nine-year contract? #gofletch #godons

;D

[Nige]

Hehe, almost!

Coburg Football Club ‏@CoburgFC 1m

Our offer for buddy must have fallen slightly short #willgethimin9years