Swans Season review and looking to 2014

[Mailman the 2nd]

Well Luke Darcy and Damian Barrett have called that the Swans will struggle to finish around 4th-6th next year on afl.com.au, so that got me thinking with a couple of my thoughts:

- Shame that we couldn't make another GF but with 8 Premiership players playing under 13 games it was inevitable.

- I reckon with Geelong probably heading down I can see use push top 3-4 easily next year, although I think Freo and Hawthorn will still best us for Top 2.

- Considering the immediate outs and ins of Mattner, Bolton and Morton for Rampe, Mitchell and Tippett I think the we definitely improved our list

- I agree that Richards needs some help down back and he struggled at times, although Grundy was good at the latter half of the year.

- Jesse White probably has to go, should be for like early 2nd draft pick. With Goodes/Reid coming back in there's no spot for him.

- Strong seasons again from Hanneberry, Jack and McVeigh, just need Kennedy to come again with Jetta and Mitchell/ROK for a crack in 2014.

[Capper]

The Swans as a team posted the most votes in the Brownlow for the second year in a row, which is good to hear.

The question still remains, who else will go other than Mattner, Bolton and Morton??

Hawthorn are after a ruck and there have been rumours that mummy will either go to the Hawks or GWS.

AJ comes back in next year, along with Goodes and maybe LRT.

Regarding White, im not sure. He has played at CHb in the 2s so it will be interesting to see if he stays whether he gets a game there in the ones. I think he will follow the cash to the Lions or Dockers.

Esky struggled when he had to play back, so i think he will stay in the mids from now on.

JMV will stay on the HB flank as a run off/rebounding role which he loves.

We had a good season considering all of the injuries we had

[_wato]

Very good summaries their boys.

Just one thing I want to put to you and what you said mailman..
I don't see Geelong slowing down at all mate, they'll be top 4 again next year, no worries about that.

I can see Sydney being between 4-6 next year, fighting it out with Collingwood and the likes.

Geelong have a very good turnover of youngsters so I wouldn't put it past them mate. They'll be up there for the next 5 years.

[Mailman the 2nd]

Very good summaries their boys.

Just one thing I want to put to you and what you said mailman..
I don't see Geelong slowing down at all mate, they'll be top 4 again next year, no worries about that.

I can see Sydney being between 4-6 next year, fighting it out with Collingwood and the likes.

Geelong have a very good turnover of youngsters so I wouldn't put it past them mate. They'll be up there for the next 5 years.

I guess it really depends on who leaves in the off-season but I feel as if last year was a better representation of where Geelong are at.

At the moment their best players are the older blokes and probably will be for the next 1-2 years I'd say. I don't doubt they have strong young players but it takes a while for them to get an AFL standard of consistency.

[SydneyRox]

Did anyone else see Hutchy on Footy Classified?

Buddy to Sydney for Mummy/Reid??

Buddy takes a hit pay wise compared to GWS but Buddy gets more than the Hawks can offer and leaves Melb behind

OMG

[_wato]

Did anyone else see Hutchy on Footy Classified?

Buddy to Sydney for Mummy/Reid??

Buddy takes a hit pay wise compared to GWS but Buddy gets more than the Hawks can offer and leaves Melb behind

OMG

Stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid.
Tippett and Franklin in the same forward line as Pyke/LRT/Reid, just can't see it happening.
Sydney won't give up a young key tall for Buddy, not at all. Plus if you had Tippett and Franklin you'd be good for 5 years but you'd be delaying the development of Reid and the other young forwards.

[SydneyRox]

Did anyone else see Hutchy on Footy Classified?

Buddy to Sydney for Mummy/Reid??

Buddy takes a hit pay wise compared to GWS but Buddy gets more than the Hawks can offer and leaves Melb behind

OMG

Stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid.
Tippett and Franklin in the same forward line as Pyke/LRT/Reid, just can't see it happening.
Sydney won't give up a young key tall for Buddy, not at all. Plus if you had Tippett and Franklin you'd be good for 5 years but you'd be delaying the development of Reid and the other young forwards.

Sorry, which bit of Reid goes did you miss??

LRT has 1yr in him and Pyke 2-3.

Buddy is 26, Tippett is also 26.

Sydney have Membrey (19) ready to then follow.

Ps. Sydney also have a pretty decent record of bringing power fwds into the team, just in case you have been asleep the last 15 years!!

[Ringo]

Membrey has class written all over him. 5 goals in the NEAFL Grand Final and presented well.

[_wato]

Sorry, which bit of Reid goes did you miss??

LRT has 1yr in him and Pyke 2-3.

Buddy is 26, Tippett is also 26.

Sydney have Membrey (19) ready to then follow.

Ps. Sydney also have a pretty decent record of bringing power fwds into the team, just in case you have been asleep the last 15 years!!

Hahaha why would you get rid of Reid? Hawks want a ruckman so you'd give Mummy but then Reid aswell for Buddy is definitely overkill. Good luck with two giants down forward in the confinements of the SCG and good luck trying to fit him in your salary cap, because Buddy is hungry for high $$$$$

What happens in 2-3 years when your Hanners/Jack/JPK/Mitchell are asking higher $$$ as they're stars? You won't fit them all in!

[T Dog]

Buddy and Heater in would shorten the swannies flag odds for next year in my book...wowie..lol.. ;D

[SydneyRox]

I dont think we can get them both. Not enough trade value for the Pies if we move too much to the Hawks for Buddy!

Still not convinced Heater is right for us either. Our back 6 is pretty solid. McVeigh was there to cover Mattner missing and he and Eski combined for a near AA double, so Mattner retiring means he can stay there and let the new young guns rule the midfield.

[Mailman the 2nd]

Things would get pretty sketchy capwise if we were to have Buddy, Mcveigh, Jack, Hanneberry and Tippett in the team

Tippett and Reid should be enough to build a forward line around.

I'd say offload White and someone like Armstrong and target another solid key backman. I dunno who's leaving though.

Shaw would be ok I guess

[SydneyRox]

The guys in trouble to stay on the list either as trade or getting delisted have to be

Armstrong, Walsh, White, Lockyer, Brown - and until 2weeks ago I would have had Cunningham on top of this list.

Lloyd, Naismith and Robinson will all be fighting to stay on the list as well. Cant see any of them getting the upgrade.

What may save some these guys is the fact we have already lost 3 players to retirement, so massive cuts are not going to be needed.

[Ringo]

I can Naismith being upgraded though Sydney Rox especially if Mumford goes.

[stew42]

Lloyd has also done well.