2013 Grand Final

[Vinny]

Haha yeah you are right! Everyone just reckons Sydney won't beat them at Subi, as do I.

Hawks and Freo! 8)

[Ziplock]

swans do have a very undermanned team... that being said, I don't think I'd count them out yet- last year in finals they were the under dogs every game :P

[Vinny]

Yeah that's true. Tippett not playing is huge but Swans are capable without him.

But I still think Freo will just be too good. :P

[stew42]

Yeah that's true. Tippett not playing is huge but Swans are capable without him.

But I still think Freo will just be too good. :P

Not that huge, having some unpredictability to our fwd line will help... we did well enough beginning of the season

[Vinny]

Yeah I know mate. Thats why I said they are capable without him :)

[Ringo]

I still think Sydney are a chance - Freos first prelim final at home so the emotion may get to them and could choke. (Ross Lyon will try and keep that part under control) Sydneys forward line will be undersized so maybe we will see their small forwards dominate as we seen with Johnson and Gunston last night. Think the outcome will basically depend on who Crowley tags as I think ypu can not keep all of Jack, O'Keeffe, JPK, McVeigh quiet.

Anyway whoever wins this one I will be barracking for in the GF,

[Nige]

Yeah that's true. Tippett not playing is huge but Swans are capable without him.

They did win the flag last year when he wasn't even at their club, I don't think he'll be missed too much.

[Bill Manspeaker]

Anyway whoever wins this one I will be barracking for in the GF,

yep same. hopefully Sydney get up, but wouldn't be too unhappy with Freo either.

[Vinny]

Haha I think I'm the only one that doesn't dislike the Hawks :P

[Ziplock]

Yeah that's true. Tippett not playing is huge but Swans are capable without him.

They did win the flag last year when he wasn't even at their club, I don't think he'll be missed too much.

^ yeah, that's the thing- yeah, mitchell and tippett are out... but last year they won the GF without tippett and mitchell anyway :P

from last year GF team they've lost (for this game): Shaw, Mattner, Johnson, Reid, Goodes, LRT, Morton
and replaced them with: Cunningham, Rohan, Mcglynn, Biggs, Rampe, Everitt, White

Rohan, Mcglynn and Rampe are actually pretty solid ins. Reid did flower all in the GF last year, and White should be able to replace him

cunningham and biggs do seem to be scraping the barrel a bit though :P

[Nige]

Haha I think I'm the only one that doesn't dislike the Hawks :P

I don't mind the Hawks, but there's a part of me that just wants to see Freo win tonight and get up next week.  :P

[Vinny]

Yeah exactly the same Nige. About time they had some success!

[Ringo]

It is just that come GF time I support non Victorian teams and always have as despite the success of interstate teams there seems a lack of recognition of these interstate teams in Victoria and the AFL does it best to reward them. Still remember the Finals scheduling in 2004 which imo hindered Brisbane winning 4 in a row.

[henry]

I'd be happy with either of the teams, reckon we will be hungrier than the swans as they won last year and are maybe a little content, they haven't been in great form anyway.

Freo could really self destruct I reckon, many of their players will have never experienced grand final intensity and could be interesting to see how they react. Go hawks!

[Scrads]

It is just that come GF time I support non Victorian teams and always have as despite the success of interstate teams there seems a lack of recognition of these interstate teams in Victoria and the AFL does it best to reward them. Still remember the Finals scheduling in 2004 which imo hindered Brisbane winning 4 in a row.

Sorry Ringo that is pretty of. The mark I would say. Sydney, Crows, WC, Bris and Port all have won 9 flags out of 16 between them since 1997. You are suggesting the AFL made it hard for you because you were non-victorian despite the fact you were beaten by another non-victorian side? And what about last year when Hawks despite finishing top and winning our QF still had to play a Saturday night prelim and Sydney got the Friday night one despite finishing 3rd? The AFL let Geelong play a game at skilled earlier this finals series but didn't let Sydney play last year's prelim at the SCG so they could play Saturday.