AXVS: OFFICIAL TRADE THREAD (2013/2014)

[RidleyU]

I just looked at your squad Koops and think this is actually closer to your best team...

DEF: Hibberd, Harry O, Picken, Duryea
MIDS: Ebert (C), Hanners (VC), Gaff, Mzungu
RUCKS: Ryder
FWDS: Breust, Jetta, Henderson, Edwards
UTIL: Polec, Howlett

Very very solid!!!

[Colliwobblers]

I read above that the cotchin deal has been passed it has not.

just be careful when making comments that they are accurate and correct.

BB and I will need to discuss this one and a couple of others, before passing.

Also and more important, please feel free to voice your opinion on a trade.

HOWEVER

I do not want to see and I don't think any of us want to see people being ridiculed or attached on a personal level, if you think a trade stinks or is uneven by all means comment and say so.

If you feel it is so uneven it should not pass then you PM Myself or BB to contest it.

But please be careful not to make comments that are derogatory towards other coaches,

"Koop that deal was very uneven you lost out there mate"  this is ok to say.

"koop you are the worst trader ever" things like this = not ok to say.

we are all friends here and respect each other greatly..... don't we ....

otherwise the trading and he banter is great , contentious time of the season, but should be a fun time for all.

[RidleyU]

Sorry about that Colli.

Was just trying to show some support to Koops and his team.

[Justin Bieber]

I'm happy with the trade... I spose, I just don't want Rids or Nost to be competitive :P

[Colliwobblers]

ill discuss the last few with BB and process, and i will update the lists with all approved trades by BB yesterday.

just remember if a trade is passed you do not agree with you can PM BB or I am protest the trade, if your case is strong enough or enough coached feel the same, we may reverse our decision.

[Justin Bieber]

Don't want to start an argument, but I reckon out side the two coaches involved and the two admins, the remaining 12, at least 80% reckon it's a bad trade for a team re-building.

[Colliwobblers]

Don't want to start an argument, but I reckon out side the two coaches involved and the two admins, the remaining 12, at least 80% reckon it's a bad trade for a team re-building.

a bad trade is fine.

questions is : Is it extremely uneven, does it disadvantage other teams in the comp by it's unevenness?

are the other teams aware for the purpose of this trade harry o must be viewed as a defender the 8th ranked defender ?

are the other teams aware for the purpose of this trade polec must be viewed as a pick #5 3 years in, gone to a new club - that will play him as they made no secret of the fact they DESPERATELY wanted him.

are the other teams aware for the purpose of this trade, rookie #3 in this draft is quite a valuable pick given the players available  in this preseason/rookie draft left over from last seasons pool.

when considering all these things and weighing the trade - is it extremely uneven or unfair ? or is it just bad ? or is it just annoying that other coaches would have paid more but did not get the opportunity to do so ?

we will make a decision first, then other coaches who feel it is right to protest can do so via pm ONLY. With supporting evidence that it is extremely uneven and unfair to other teams.

[nostradamus]

Don't want to start an argument, but I reckon out side the two coaches involved and the two admins, the remaining 12, at least 80% reckon it's a bad trade for a team re-building.

a bad trade is fine.

questions is : Is it extremely uneven, does it disadvantage other teams in the comp by it's unevenness?

are the other teams aware for the purpose of this trade harry o must be viewed as a defender the 8th ranked defender ?

are the other teams aware for the purpose of this trade polec must be viewed as a pick #5 3 years in, gone to a new club - that will play him as they made no secret of the fact they DESPERATELY wanted him.

are the other teams aware for the purpose of this trade, rookie #3 in this draft is quite a valuable pick given the players available  in this preseason/rookie draft left over from last seasons pool.

when considering all these things and weighing the trade - is it extremely uneven or unfair ? or is it just bad ? or is it just annoying that other coaches would have paid more but did not get the opportunity to do so ?

we will make a decision first, then other coaches who feel it is right to protest can do so via pm ONLY. With supporting evidence that it is extremely uneven and unfair to other teams.

Cheers Colli, it's nice to see some pragmatic logic brought into the argument......the above listed reasoning is exactly what was looked and when bringing this trade about.

As always, l have faith in your judgement in assessing the fairness of any trade.

**kudos to you for highlighting the treatment of Koops, it's been really bothering Rids and l too

[Colliwobblers]

Trade here between Manilla and Laos. Turns out you can trade with Whatlez :p

Manila gives:  Aaron Hall + NAT pick 26

Loas gives:  Alex Rance + NAT pick 22

Whatlez to confirm

Confirm 8)

Rance is a favourite  but needs forward depth. Not sure it's a massive win.

APPROVED & PROCESSED

[elephants]

This'll be very interesting 8)

[Colliwobblers]

This Period:

Bangladesh give: Nat #48

PNG give:


Next Period:

Bangladesh give: Michael Evans

PNG give: Andrew Carrazzo


tabs to confirm.

tabs confirming

APPROVED

As I don't yet have Mod powers, I will post reasoning for the trade being passed here and update the OP later on.

Reasoning: Pretty even trade here. Proven performer in Carrazzo who has had injury worries over the last couple of seasons so his currency is devalued. Evans looks to have good potential and the pick evens things out a bit.



Just so everyone knows how the trade approval is working between us, it's happening like this. We both have the power to approve a trade if we see it as clearly even and disadvantaging neither coach involved or the competition as a whole. If either of us has a problem with any trade, we will take it to the other and then discuss whether or not it should be approved.

Also Colli and I have decided that to avoid any conflict of interest, when one of us makes a trade the other will approve or disapprove it.

PROCESSED

[Colliwobblers]

Well that was quick Jay - ruck depth achieved :P

Deal between Dolphins and Strikers has been reached.

Overall deal: Strikers give Guthrie + Rosa FOR Lycett + Mcglynn + NAT 28 from the Dolphins

We would like to split this deal over the trade periods even though it should be possibly to complete it in this one. Reason for this well be revealed in due course by me.

So like this.

This period
Dolphins give: Scott Lycett+ NAT 28
Strikers give: Matt Rosa

Once the above has been done both the Strikers and Dolphins should gain back a full list movement each for this trade period. Reason is I originally traded Rosa to Jayman and he originally traded me Lycett as part of an earlier deal. So one in/out back for each of us.

Next period
Dolphins give: Ben McGlynn
Strikers give: Cameron Guthrie

APPROVED

Reasoning: I feel that this trade is a little uneven in favour of the Strikers, but not uneven enough to not allow through. Based on averages and potential, I feel that Guthrie and Lycett just about cancel each other out. That leaves Rosa for McGlynn and pick 28. Rosa had a poor year this year struggling with injury and if he can get back to his best scoring he will be a solid midfield player. McGlynn is a goalkicker so he will continue to score well and the pick does make it slightly uneven, but not by a margin that advantages one team over another by too great a margin.

PROCESSED

PLEASE NOTE THIS TRADE ACTUALLY ADDS A LIST MOVEMENT IN AND OUT BACK TO BOTH TEAMS - IT IS A REVERSAL OF A PREVIOUS TRADE THEREFORE ACTUALLY GAINS BOTH CLUBS A LIST MOVEMENT BACK BOTH WAYS.

LIST MOVEMENTS REMAINING UPDATED UNDER TRADES LIST IN OPENING PAGE OF THREAD.

[Colliwobblers]

The Dolphins are busy, busy, busy with our list rebuild and have arranged another deal.

Full deal: Laos Elephants give Sam Colquhoun+Scott Gumbleton+Rookie 22+Rookie 38 for Jordan Lewis+Rookie 28+Rookie 44 from the Taiwan Dolphins.

We did get one list movement back in the previous deal with the Strikers but because we only have one this deal also has to be over both trade periods.

This period:
Elephants give: Scott Gumbleton+Rookie 22+Rookie 38
Dolphins give: Jordan Lewis+Rookie 28+Rookie 44

Next period:
Elephants give: Sam Colquhoun.

We're swapping a genuine fwd/mid premium for two unproven but talented players and a couple of slight moves up the rookie draft order. Fits in with our list rebuild nicely.

For anyone that is wondering - the reason we are doing most/all of our trading now instead of waiting for trade period II is as follows.

Because we will be drafting so many players this season I wanted to get our list sorted and set before the drafts so I have an idea of which types of players to draft (def/mid/fwd/ruc).

Also with this in mind we want to get the best picks we can - hence the upgrades in this deal.

I'l wait for the admins to confirm and process everything but, I believe we should now have 1 more in and 2 more outs left for the second trade period following today's deals.

I won't lie - the players we are looking to move out are probably Adcock and Stokes and in return we are interested in high draft picks and good young defenders. If you're interested let me know.

APPROVED

Reasoning: Another fairly easy trade to approve here. Lewis is a proven premium, Gumbleton and Colquhoun are two players that will be solid depth as they develop and the picks also even things out a little.

PROCESSED

And there goes those Dolphins movements :)

[Justin Bieber]

Yes both trades accepted :D

[Colliwobblers]

ok of the three trades left one is easy, one is interesting, and one is challanging, will process as soon as i talk to BossBoss

all trades listed as approved and processed are updated on team lists and pick order and movements.

busy weekend.

well done to all involved, tricky business this making trades happen.