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Started by ossie85, August 28, 2013, 03:15:24 PM

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Holz

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Quote from: NigeyS on December 16, 2013, 04:16:52 PM
Quote from: Master Q on December 16, 2013, 04:14:21 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on December 16, 2013, 03:57:44 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 16, 2013, 03:55:16 PM
Rocky losing fwd status so Holz needing a gun fwd replacement...
Yet he then trades away 2 more forwards. Don't think that is a valid reason sorry
Maybe he has  another trade on the cards?
Nah, Holz is trying to make his 2014 team as good as he can for a premiership tilt this season.

yeah there is no trade coming up on the horizon. Had this one lined up for a long time, well before the first trade period closed was just dependent on rocky DPP.

I have plenty of up and coming forwards but I want 5 solid forwards going into the season (esepcially with injury prone dixon) doing this trade with rocky DPP is stupid as 5 solid forwards is too many.

there are classes of players. i need another tier 1 forward. My starting 15 is greatly influenced by rocky dpp, not my bench

I have plenty of guys like Hunter so he is no loss. I have lots of forwards who will be good in the future but not now.

ossie85


Yeah, Sorry Ringo I wasn't clear (and worded badly). You need to have a player change (or not) DPP that impacted the structure of the team.

Boomz

Well guess it opens up the door for a few trades we have been considering then if that one can get through... Thought the reasoning would have to be stronger.

Holz

Quote from: Boomz on December 16, 2013, 04:25:15 PM
Well guess it opens up the door for a few trades we have been considering then if that one can get through... Thought the reasoning would have to be stronger.

i guess we will see but this trade was ready for a long time and i told ossie i would be trading for a gun forward if rocky lost dpp months ago.

Purple 77

Quote from: Ringo on December 16, 2013, 04:15:42 PM
Correct me if I am wrong changing DPP is to be the reason for trades this period.

This is the rule Ossie quoted "A trade can only be allowed if at least one of the players involved had a position change

Lachie Hunter :P

I was going to use the reasoning of:

"We were headed for a McDonald - Hunter swap, the other 2 trades were to balance it out"

And yeah, confirmed. After months of Holz chasing Buddy, he gets his man. Fyfe could quite possibly be the best SC midfielder, even AFL midfielder, in his career. VERY hard to say no. Also, talks of a potential Buddy struggle at Sydney probably weakened my stance on him... he is a star though, and I'm letting him go thinking he will average around 100.

Clark, if fit (oh please be fit), WILL average 80+, if firing, 90+. This trade also makes me more comfortable about my future, with a Steven/Fyfe duo leading the way ahead of Conca, Trengove, Crouch and Viney for my mids.

*Braces for a Berlin supporter outcry*

Buddy has been our poster boy since day ONE, when I took him with Pick 5 in the original draft.

I absolutely hated him pre-WXV, but Berlin made me love him. You will be missed ol mate.

Nails

Still don't think getting rid of 2 forwards to get 1 forward to replace a missing forward is fixing DPP :o

essentially you're 2 forwards down

but it looks good, time for some dillos trading.

Nails

#1371
Two heavily requested players from other teams are likely to become available

PM myself/vinny if you are interested in Jarrad Redden and/or Robert Warnock

We need to replace our forwards lost through DPP.

DazBurg

I'm am back baby  8)

Open to any trade talks :P

Nails

Currently taking offers on Robert Warnock

We have 1 offer currently under consideration. PM Me/Vinny/nrich102 if interested.

Master Q

Quote from: Nails on December 17, 2013, 09:10:11 PM
Currently taking offers on Robert Warnock

We have 1 offer currently under consideration. PM Me/Vinny/nrich102 if interested.
The best offer you'll get

Nige

Cairo give: David Hale
Dillos give: Andrew Carrazzo

Reason: Dillos want another forward for the reason Nails stated above, which can also be seen in the quote below. We get a player to slot into our mids/interchange and sure up our depth. 

Quote from: Nails on December 16, 2013, 11:32:00 PM
We need to replace our forwards lost through DPP.

Nails

Quote from: NigeyS on December 31, 2013, 02:17:15 PM
Cairo give: David Hale
Dillos give: Andrew Carrazzo

Reason: Dillos want another forward for the reason Nails stated above, which can also be seen in the quote below. We get a player to slot into our mids/interchange and sure up our depth. 

Quote from: Nails on December 16, 2013, 11:32:00 PM
We need to replace our forwards lost through DPP.

Confirmed

We lost Stevie J and Cox from our forward line, still looking to get another forward to fix it.

It is a tad concerning though as take out Carrazzo's injuries and he was a 105 average in 2012. Without injury in 2014 he could be superstud again.

Though having Hale is great as he makes a solid F5 and R2 for us.

Vinny


ossie85

And Happy new year to all WXV participants as we enter the THIRD year of our little comp.


And the second trade period is up!

RULES FOR SECOND TRADE PERIOD

- Trades can only occur if they are resulting from DPP positions
- Have to be 1 for 1, 2 for 2, 3 for 3 or 4 for 4
- Only 4 player movements allowed
- Still can't go over or under cap
- I decide solely on the trades. However, people have the right to appeal my decision. If 6 coaches PM me, we will open discussions again regarding the trading.


Trade 57:
Dublin trade: Nathan Fyfe, Mitch Clark, Lachie Hunter
Berlin trade: Lance Franklin, Nick Dal Santo, Tom McDonald

Verdict: APPROVE

In what I'm sure won't be a decision that will please everybody. Each trade in this period has 2 criteria:
a) - Is it because of positional changes?
b) - Is it fair?

If this trade had happened without any prior knowledge, I'd be close to rejecting it on the first criteria. However, both Dublin and Berlin had contacted me well prior (during the 1st trade period), saying that they would like to do this trade IF Tom Rockliff (Dublin) lost his forward status. Which he did, and they traded. So based on that and the fantastic communication by the two teams, it has to pass the first criteria.

The second criteria relates to fairness. I broke it down into three:

Nat Fyfe v Lance Franklin - You could argue breaks even. Franklin one of the few elite forwards on a 9 year contract, while Fyfe a genuine superstar who could average 120+.

Nick Dal Santo v Mitch Clark - Again, another one you could argue breaks even. Dal Santo is a genuine star, but on the decline, however a new AFL club could mean anything for him. Mitch Clark has genuine capability as a forward, and injury free he could average 80+ (his last stretch of games where he played 7 matches in a row he averaged 96! And this was playing for Melbourne!).

Tom McDonald v Lachie Hunter - Another break even. McDonald and Hunter both young, both with strong potential.



Trade 58:
Cairo trade: David Hale
Buenos Aires trade: Andrew Carrazzo

Verdict: APPROVE

Passes the DPP criteria, with Buenos Aires ravaged in the forward line (no Stevie J or Cox anymore). Think is fair with the two old war horses parting way. Actually makes Buenos Aires a younger team by about 4 months also :P

Movements:
3: Berlin, Dublin
1: Buenos Aires, Cairo

Purple 77

Awesome!

How long do coaches have to reject a trade?