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2013 British Review

Started by Ringo, August 06, 2013, 04:05:10 PM

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Capper

Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 19, 2013, 11:18:56 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 19, 2013, 11:11:45 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 19, 2013, 10:23:26 AM
Don't think HGA should be included in Finals

Another suggestion :P

Really disagree sorry kb! Without HGA being included, there is no difference between finishing 1st and 4th, 2nd or 3rd, 5th or 8th, 6th or 7th.

For finals I think it is a welcome reward for those that did well during the season

(But yes, no HGA for Grand Final)

there is still a difference if you finish in the top 4 you get a second chance if you lose the first finals game

good enough reward IMO
Cant use that as an example as Sydney dont play wekll at ANZ

ossie85

Quote from: tabs on August 19, 2013, 12:19:39 PM
Cant use that as an example as Sydney dont play wekll at ANZ
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lol - they won a Prelim last year didn't they? (I was there and booed out the ground lol).


Capper

Quote from: ossie85 on August 19, 2013, 01:16:06 PM
Quote from: tabs on August 19, 2013, 12:19:39 PMCant use that as an example as Sydney dont play wekll at ANZ

lol - they won a Prelim last year didn't they? (I was there and booed out the ground lol).
You are a collingwood supporter. You get Booed out of every ground

Colliwobblers

great comp, great result so far, clearly the best team minor premiers and a shake at the flag also :)

On emergencies - definatley no "use the highest scoring emergency", loophole like and open for exploitation", had it in AXVS this season and are changing it to first named no highest scoring (of position).

Like the sub rule. ONLY ONE player named sub and only he can replace the lowest scoring player on field - REGARDLESS OF IF INJURED OR NOT. so effectively the sub covers spuds too not just injured players.... otherwise a nightmare for Ringo to check every game.

Utility rule i dont mind either way, like the utility rule and then the emergency rule, again didnt have the utility covering the other lines rule in AXVS but may change to it this season depending on votes.

penalty for not naming a team = NONE - no point to a penalty skews the results to have a team punished that way, the rule should be based around being fired for not naming a team too often and should not involve points loss for mine. If someone is away or has a crisis they should not lose a game because of it - using last weeks team is a safegaurd and only abuse of not naming a team should result in admin ruled sacking.

MUST HAVE A HGA IN FINALS (except GF) - we didnt in AXVS and it was a BIG mistake, had people saying correctly - oh well it makes no difference where i finish in the top 4 or top 8 as in 1st and 4th no benefit to either team. Must be a HGA to reward ladder positions and reflect the actual AFL.

I wanted a "resting bonus points" in the AXVS finals but it seemed unpopular - as in teams winning the 2 finals first adn getting the week off get a bonus in the next final on top of HGA to reflect they are rested and like in the real AFL almost always win.

VERY HARD TO WIN A FLAG FROM OUTSIDE THE TOP 4...... so hard it doesn't often happen..

- on all things not mentioned here. well done Ringo, great season, can't really see anything that warrants changing.

kilbluff1985

it's BS wehen people say theres no advantage of making the top 4 with HGA you get a double chance imo that's better then HGA

Colliwobblers

Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 26, 2013, 03:56:04 PM
it's BS wehen people say theres no advantage of making the top 4 with HGA you get a double chance imo that's better then HGA

yes there is advantage in making the top 4 with double chance.

but without HGA in finals there is no advantage coming 1st over coming 4th

or 5th over 8th

kilbluff1985

Ok I agree with that but it wasnt how you put it originally

I just think any team should be able to win it in the top 8 people can say no point making the bottom 8 of the finals to hard to beat a team with HGA

PowerBug

The team that finished 8th is playing the GF this year, HGA in finals should stay as it is, if you're good enough to take the GF from 8th (as ele is) then kudos.
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kilbluff1985

Quote from: PowerBug on August 26, 2013, 08:14:53 PM
The team that finished 8th is playing the GF this year, HGA in finals should stay as it is, if you're good enough to take the GF from 8th (as ele is) then kudos.

That rarely happens though

PowerBug

Happened 100% of the time in British XV's history. ;) Can only go off that. Usually if you finish 8th, you aren't strong enough to win against 5th, and then 4th, and then 2nd all away. Ele just got really lucky that his players all are performing at the right time of the season, which is part of the game i guess. :P
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Coach of WXV side Rio De Janeiro Jaguars
2023 SC: Rank 126

elephants

Quote from: Colliwobblers on August 26, 2013, 03:48:12 PM
VERY HARD TO WIN A FLAG FROM OUTSIDE THE TOP 4...... so hard it doesn't often happen..

Maybe this weekend will change your mind on that champ ;)




Amazing, amazing work Ringo. Looking back you really did save this comp from extinction! Imo this comp has a great feel to it, just so well run and organised! Lovely work!

Pretty much agree with everything that has been said.


  • No penalty for not naming a side, copping last weeks side is often punishment enough.
  • Absolutely need HGA in finals (but not the GF).
  • I reckon that if a defender is out, a defender emg (provided one is named) should cover regardless of whether it is emg 1, 2 or 3. If no defender is named then the first named emergency should be halved. Think we already have that but yeah, I like it haha.
  • Love the write-ups each week mate, amazing!
  • Have we ever floated the idea of rolling lockout in XV comps?
  • Don't mind the sub rule covering your lowest scoring player + injuries. I am sure it could be exploited but I haven't really thought too much about it yet.
  • The DVC thing came in handy once or twice but I don't think it is crucial to the comp. Teams can name them if they want but I went a lot of the season not naming one really! Would be happy for it to stay or go though :)

Incredible effort by yourself though Ringo, hats off to you 8)

Quote from: PowerBug on August 26, 2013, 08:28:05 PM
Happened 100% of the time in British XV's history. ;) Can only go off that. Usually if you finish 8th, you aren't strong enough to win against 5th, and then 4th, and then 2nd all away. Ele just got really lucky that his players all are performing at the right time of the season, which is part of the game i guess. :P

Luck had nothing to do with it ;) Been chatting to my mate Stevo Dank though about some of his 'natural remedies?' I just signed some papers and went with it. He seemed like a nice guy with great past experience! Whatever we are jacking our team up on seems to be working!

Ringo

Regarding HGA - It is used in the AFL unless contractual arrangements with the MCG need a game to be played at the MCG and quite often this is t the expense of an interstate team.

HGA had no effect in any of the Premiership final matches although it did enable the Werewolves to get a comfortable win as scores were only separated by 1.5 goals prior to HGA. One game in the Plate was changed as a result of HGA.


What do we think of HGA being removed for Preliminary final as well as Grand Final.

Thanks also for the encouragement guys Have enjoyed it and really want to make the rules a concensus of all coaches.

ossie85

Quote from: Ringo on August 27, 2013, 09:09:30 AM
What do we think of HGA being removed for Preliminary final as well as Grand Final.

No HGA for GF

HGA for PF


elephants


SydneyRox

Quote from: ossie85 on August 27, 2013, 09:21:50 AM
Quote from: Ringo on August 27, 2013, 09:09:30 AM
What do we think of HGA being removed for Preliminary final as well as Grand Final.

No HGA for GF

HGA for PF

Yup.