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Mat0369

The players are facing no charges which is the big thing to come out of tonight.

Grazz

Quote from: Mat0369 on August 13, 2013, 07:53:18 PM
The players are facing no charges which is the big thing to come out of tonight.

Still for ASADA and WADA to decide that one the way I see it. AFL not taking any action could be a good sign for them but until
ASADA speak who really knows. The circus continue. Find it strange the AFL give a finding with no ASADA represetantive and no questions taken at all.

Vinny

All that is clear at this stage is that this is no good for our game. :( 

Ringo

So we will also have another 2 weeks of innuendo etc until the hearing on 26th August although AFL will not be commenting further.

Then there is the ongoing ASADA open investigation.

Grazz

Quote from: Ringo on August 13, 2013, 08:09:16 PM
So we will also have another 2 weeks of innuendo etc until the hearing on 26th August although AFL will not be commenting further.

Then there is the ongoing ASADA open investigation.

Then ASADA will need to send that to WADA for their confirmation on what has occurred and sanctions imposed under the ASADA banner. Stay tuned folks but don't hold your breath. :-\

BratPack


kilbluff1985


DazBurg

#67
really getting over it
they now just using essendon as a scapegoat for all the clubs
im a bombers supporter and i'm not saying we completely innocent i'm saying there are other clubs that have done things that would be considered pushing the boundaries anyone who doubts that would be considered mission accomplished by the AFL

just to prove what i'm getting at after reading the age articles and seeing a link posted by someone

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/hawks-set-the-pace-in-injection-science-20120924-26hhg.html
^ that link i simple happened to type Orthokine therapy into google and besides that link as the 3rd to come up also the 7th ones was

http://asada.govspace.gov.au/2012/09/25/clarification-orthokine/

my point being and not trying to deflect it from essendon or put the blame on someone else in fact i think that is what is happening to essendon atm
letting the bombers take the fall while Andy D and Co. quietly tell the other 17 clubs if you got anything remotely dodgy looking or ground breaking or boundary pushing cut it the F out now so as we can simply slap 1 club say we isolated the problem......all finished nothing to se here and see the AFL isn't over run with dodgyiness it was simply 1 club trying to take shortcuts and we all condemn them for it....blah blah blah

imo the weapon even said Hird reckoned other clubs were doing it
(btw i am not accusing other clubs of performance enhancing i know weapon said hird said they were using growth hormone's i'm no implying that i simply mean other clubs were most likely do what is classed as cutting edge or pushing the boundaries too )

which in the end like i said i am not deflecting from essendon....if proven to do wrong then yes cop it

just simply stating that i think the fact they going after every single senior employee shows they trying to put all blame on them and act as if it's a 1 off type thing and no one else has ever done something like this before etc....


and before everyone still accuses me of being a simply upset bombers supporter if you wanna still play the essendon blame card and say everyone else is innocent

i quote from that article up there

"But the player who encouraged Marks that the treatment could revolutionise AFL football came from Essendon. That player, whom the doctor would not name due to practitioner-patient confidentiality, enjoyed such success using Orthokine that he returned from a soft-tissue injury that was originally expected to sideline him for eight to 10 weeks after only five weeks"

just saying essendon being done for bringing game into disrepute because saying we getting injections is a bad look for the game


well

This year alone Marks, who regularly assists Hawthorn on match days and practices at Olympic Park, has fast-tracked the recovery of about 20 AFL players struck by joint and soft-tissue afflictions by injecting them with their own blood.

point being Andy D would be ringing up all clubs and saying hey for now cut all this crap out
we want to appear that it was simply 1 club that went over the top and punish them rest of you can chill

well there is my conspiracy theory for the day
and to finish on a lighter note as my brother BP would put it in a far more amusing way



:P




BratPack

Stop stealing my gimmick  :P

muzza3465

Just seen the results on the telly and it is not good for the bombers
no finals, 2 million in fines and draft picks for 2013_14. Very harsh
but at the end of the day lets hope it can go away and we can have
some footy and no more ess saga after saga bring on the finals

bowyanger

#70
Quote from: muzza3465 on August 27, 2013, 09:24:32 PM
Just seen the results on the telly and it is not good for the bombers
no finals, 2 million in fines and draft picks for 2013_14. Very harsh
but at the end of the day lets hope it can go away and we can have
some footy and no more ess saga after saga bring on the finals

Mate, this thing will be belted out a fair bit next year...especially before every Dons game on free to air.

Then in 2014 when golden balls is back, it will still be asked and written about in the media...probably on that point I wouldnt be surprised if James doesnt come back.

I have no doubt golden balls gave in to get the issue over and done with as it doesnt look good & is having a significant impact for all the players, their families and those invovled at the club the longer it drags on. I can totally understand his stance that the AFL went on a witch hunt and that resulted in "bringing the game into disrepute". If it wasnt for AFL making this issue public without any hard evidence of illegal substance abuse - if things were kept in house until a guilty verdict - then there would be no "disrepute"..its a little hard for me to explain the situation more clearly than that.

Really besides the money, its only a slap on the wrist from AFL..as posted above..what ASADA says will be the next issue of constant scrutiny in the media. And we all know what a circus ASADA has been

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/as-essendons-supplements-saga-drags-on-it-is-time-for-asada-to-come-clean-on-its-investigation/story-fni5ezno-1226703045537

The Bombers would be happy with their development and will look forward to 2 - 3 years time as the time they will go extremely hard at the flag...the sleeping giant seems a fitting description..everyone knows what they are capable of without the sanctions..in 2 years time they are only going to be better..for the next 2 years they will just bubble along and keep their head low.

Remember..the main thing is...they havnt been found guilty of anything to do with illegal substances yet

Read the 6th paragraph from the bottom

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-08-27/essendon-penalties


Im not a Dons supporter either...but I sure do know what it feels like to play in a jumber of black with red sash...which is why I have a soft spot for them

Diesels Pups

Says on one hand they lose picks in round 1 and 2 of 2013 and 2014 national drafts but then it says they receive a pick at the end of round 1 selections in 2014. Isn't that effectively a first round pick (Pick 18 overall) in 2014. Huh? ???

kilbluff1985

a slap on the wrist? YOU CANT BE SERIOUS?

2 million highest ever fine Carlton only got 250k

kicked out of the finals never been done before

loss of draft picks in 2 drafts cant remember if that's been done before


you cant say "besides the money" that's part of the punishment ffs

bowyanger

#73
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 27, 2013, 10:36:58 PM
a slap on the wrist? YOU CANT BE SERIOUS?

2 million highest ever fine Carlton only got 250k

kicked out of the finals never been done before

loss of draft picks in 2 drafts cant remember if that's been done before


you cant say "besides the money" that's part of the punishment ffs

just my opinion mate...I agree 2mill is a lot of coin..thats what I was saying...especially when theyre trying to develop new training facilities but theyre a big strong club...it definately wont break them by any means

BB67th

Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 27, 2013, 10:36:58 PM
a slap on the wrist? YOU CANT BE SERIOUS?

2 million highest ever fine Carlton only got 250k

kicked out of the finals never been done before

loss of draft picks in 2 drafts cant remember if that's been done before


you cant say "besides the money" that's part of the punishment ffs
The money is a big point, but Essendon is one of the very top clubs. They will be able to pay it off. Kicked out of the finals is also quite a penalty. Adelaide did lose the same picks for the Kurt Tippett saga though, and interestingly there were never given and end of first round compensation pick for the second draft.