T Mitch to M Murph?

Started by _wato, July 23, 2013, 06:54:26 PM

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_wato

Quote from: HotTiges on July 23, 2013, 09:59:21 PM
yeah cant afford to carry non players.. i'd be happy to finish with MMurphy (TMitch/Hrovat).. 55 B/E? hmm.. i'd love to wait a week on him..

Well I'd be finishing with
Ablett, Pendlebury, Swan, Dangerfield, D Beams, Griffen, Jelwood, JPK (Murph, Hrovat)

Monster mids IMO. Them on any good given week could go masssssssssive, and it's why I want them.

Vinny

Flower.

Just go for it mate !

Risk vs Reward ? The reward is huge if all fire as expected.

Thats a mad midfield - The more I look at it the more I reckon you should pull the trigger.






_wato

Quote from: vinny on July 23, 2013, 10:11:52 PM
Flower.

Just go for it mate !

Risk vs Reward ? The reward is huge if all fire as expected.

Thats a mad midfield - The more I look at it the more I reckon you should pull the trigger.

Hahah, it scares me even just looking at it.

I know mate, the reward is huge. If they all fired Grand Final week if I make it, it could be ridiculous.

If I don't pull the trigger ill be left with either Priddis or Swallow as M8 with T Mitchell at M9.

Compare that to what I could have and I know what i'd choose.

tor01doc

That is one heck of a midfield.

Hate to be playing it in finals.

Ringo

Just follow your gut Wato.  Dissect the advice being given and then make your decision for the best for your team.
Final mids is same as mine except I have Stanton instead of Beams (Stanton may be upgraded if I still have trades available) and Mitchell as M9.  It is a wicked mid field so go for it if comfortable.

Holz

#35
If you truly want the gun midfield why not pay up for cotchin?

107 104 109 137 he is just warming up.

I dont cosdier mitchell to murphy an upgrade.

I think its smarter with hanley out for abit to go mitchell to mckeznie though and just play Andy Swallow

archie0

I'm in the same boat 5 trades, but I'm thinking Priddis BE 145 -> Murphy

Mitchell/Crouch -> Upgrade next week

Holz

I dont understand why people are looking at murphy.

Next year yes but this year he is only good for a m9, go super premo

54 75 103 last 3.

about to play GC who are good, than he comes up against freo and the dogs both have good taggers. Tigers, Essendon and Port to finish.

Jackson, Hocking and Kornes are good taggers.

even if he was in super form he has a very tough draw coming up

_wato

Quote from: Holzman on July 24, 2013, 12:34:57 PM
I dont understand why people are looking at murphy.

Next year yes but this year he is only good for a m9, go super premo

54 75 103 last 3.

about to play GC who are good, than he comes up against freo and the dogs both have good taggers. Tigers, Essendon and Port to finish.

Jackson, Hocking and Kornes are good taggers.

even if he was in super form he has a very tough draw coming up

He's only going to be a M9 mate? Ill play him for a week or two then that's it? Danger will be back by then so all will be okay.

By the way it's not an upgrade, it's a downgrade to gain cash, and with that I'm more willing to play Murph come finals if need be than Mitchell who isn't proven.

Grimes will do just as good a job as Mckenzie and also how would I get him for Mitchell? And I don't want Cotch, don't think he's a top 8 mid IMO.

Bully

Murph looked good last week, something approaching his best. I think he's a decent chance to average 110 from here.

woofy

how about leave mitchell alone this week... look how murphy goes. if your short on future trades drop one of griffen/beams and pick barlow? :D

j959

not yet!

someone has trades to burn??!   :o   ;)

Jesty

Murphy got injured in round 12 missed 13 and 14, comes back rd 15 with the helmet so fair enough has a bad game. still finding his feet in rd 16 with an avg score. I watched the game last week and he looked really good and fresh, seemed to be everywhere while Juddy looked tired and in need of a rest. Rd 18 I would expect 130 ish from him.

_wato

Quote from: j959 on July 24, 2013, 05:54:50 PM
not yet!

someone has trades to burn??!   :o   ;)

No buddy, I don't think anyone does. I also think people are quick to look at the title and go uh Mitchell to Murph and go no way, or wow what a waste of a trade but they fail to look at the long term advantages of doing the trade and that is Beams and Griffen.

It's getting quite ridiculous how many times I have to repeat myself.

If I keep Mitchell and let him run around I will have to keep Priddis or Swallow at M8 something I don't want to do. It's all fine with Priddis scoring consistently but he handballs to often, has quite bad DE, CD hate him, and only scores between 80-110 each week. As for Swallow he can score 60 one week then 130 the next therefore his 102 avg.

Why not dispose of the both and get in two blokes who could easily average 125 each, with frequent 140+ in them in finals? Who would you rather take?

With that Murphy is a proven scorer, and although he isn't scoring well right now I see no reason why he can't bump up the at 6 weeks to a 110+ average. His last4 years in SC have been 110+ averages, over the WHOLE year. Compare him to Mitchell who isn't proven, is a young gun so could puff out soon, hasn't really played any top opposition and during SC finals he has Collingwood, Hawthorn and Geelong and with the quality of players in the Mids running around in those teams Mithell could easily go sub 75 and what good is that as a M9 if you have an out?

Barlow is my second option for Beams if I can't afford him, but he won't be as much as a POD in any of my leagues. 90% of teams in the top 2 of each league has him, hence the reason why I want Beams.

Now tell me not to do the trade.


roo boys!

Sounds like you've well and truly convinced yourself mate  :P

Now you say all that it does sound like a decent idea, originally I thought you would probably be better off looking to downgrade another bench option if you need the cash but Nicholls could serve as a really good emg loophole option, when he goes big which he should at least a few times in the run home, off goes Maric.

Also, not a lot of midpriced ruck options to make you the cash required that even compare in point scoring ability to Murphy. Holz' point about Murphy's run is still valid though, tbh I can't see Murphy averaging that much more than Mitchell in the run home, will probably be around the same give or take 4-5 ppg. And when you're making cash out of the trade, I don't see why not.

If you were upgrading Mitchell to Murphy to be your M8 I'd be hesitant, and I think that's what people are doing they see the name of the topic and go "Oh no, not Murphy...too risky for the finals" but really if he's warming the pine during finals (if all goes well injury wise) then I think the risk is well and truly worth it, and really not that much of a risk. Worst case scenario (barring injuries) he averages 90 odd in the run home and you make a handy bit of cash out of it.

Basically, it comes down to Swallow, Priddis and Mitchell vs Beams, Griffen, Murphy

I know which one I'd take, and I agree with doc in that coming up against your midfield in finals will be one scary task...looking more and more likely that Priddis will play out the year in M8 for me, not the worst case scenario, sure, but I'm sure we'd all wish to be in the position of you wato.

You have the team, you have the trades, you will have the money to bring in your superstars....go for it.